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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 01:40 am
@nononono,
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I just don't understand how getting asked on a date is "scary".


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• Let's get rid of Infirmary Feminism, with its bedlam of bellyachers, anorexics, bulimics, depressives, rape victims, and incest survivors. Feminism has become a catch-all vegetable drawer where bunches of clingy sob sisters can store their moldy neuroses.

Camille Paglia

Back in the day when women were women, before they were victims, they generally learned how to deal with men. Even the worst of men rarely need more a drink thrown at them before they behave. OK, so there is a one in 45,686,000 chance that a no will get you raped/killed, there is no such thing as a risk free life, lets not obsess about it.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 02:35 am
@hawkeye10,
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Back in the day when women were women, before they were victims, they generally learned how to deal with men. Even the worst of men rarely need more a drink thrown at them before they behave. OK, so there is a one in 45,686,000 chance that a no will get you raped/killed, there is no such thing as a risk free life, lets not obsess about it.



Where do you get your statistics from? Your anus?

You're not a garden variety troll, Hawk; you're a nasty misogynist eunuch. You've clearly got no idea about the opposite sex, so you're making it up to suit your fantasy life. I don't feel sorry for your type. I feel like I've just stepped in something rotten, and I might have to discard my shoes, because there's no practical way to remove the stench of you.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/05/india-state-minister-rape-crimes-comment
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Although a rape is reported in India every 21 minutes on average, law enforcement failures mean that such crimes – a symptom of pervasive sexual and caste oppression – are often not reported or properly investigated, human rights groups say.

More sex crimes have come to light in recent days. A woman in a nearby district of Uttar Pradesh was gang-raped, forced to drink acid and strangled to death. Another was shot dead in northeast India while resisting attackers, media reports said.

The UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, has said he was "especially appalled" by the rape and murder of the two girls.

"We say no to the dismissive, destructive attitude of, 'Boys will be boys'," he said in a statement this week that made clear his contempt for the language used by Mulayam Singh Yadav.


India is an emerging third world nation, so "back in the day" is right where they're at. How does your pathetic theory stand up to the light of reality?


nononono
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 03:12 am
@Builder,
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India is an emerging third world nation, so "back in the day" is right where they're at. How does your pathetic theory stand up to the light of reality?


How about America, where women have more rights than anywhere in world???

Are those women "Oppressed", or do they feel entitled to things that no man on earth has EVER felt entitled to, such as having ALL the same rights as a man with NONE of the responsibilities?
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 03:20 am
@nononono,
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How about America, where women have more rights than anywhere in world???


You're generalising. The assumption that all of America's people are on a level playing field is a myth you've been indocrinated with. Thanks for confirming that the programming worked (on you).
nononono
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 03:26 am
@Builder,
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The assumption that all of America's people are on a level playing field is a myth you've been indocrinated with. Thanks for confirming that the programming worked (on you)


I've been to Japan multiple times. Women there are respectful. Women there don't feel a sense of entitlement. Being a brat there gets you NOWHERE.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 05:35 am
@Builder,
It is far better to assume that all men would be rapists if they was under the impression they could get away with it and any male charge by any female with a sexual misdeed should be assume guilty and not innocent unless he can prove his innocent.beyond question.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 11:58 am
@BillRM,
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It is far better to assume that all men would be rapists if they was under the impression they could get away with it...

Certainly not all men, but you're the one who posted a study result that found that 35% of men said they would commit rape if they thought they could get away with it. That's a disturbing finding, don't you think? 35% is not insignificant. Why do you think the percentage is that high?

In addition, both you and Hawkeye use terms like "rape-rape" and "real rape" disregarding the fact that all rapes defined under state laws refer to the same act of intercourse/penetration committed without the consent of the victim, or against the will of the victim, regardless of the degree of forcible compulsion or threat of forcible compulsion. The circumstances of the criminal act may differ, but the description of the sexual act involved does not--in all sexual assaults it is a sexual act committed without consent or against the will of the victim.
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any male charge by any female with a sexual misdeed should be assume guilty and not innocent unless he can prove his innocent.beyond question

I think when someone reports a crime, the report should be considered valid for further investigation, and the accused should be considered legally innocent pending further investigation.

Legal protections of due process, for those accused of sexual assaults, should be equal to those for all other crimes handled in our criminal justice system.

You also fail to realize that the complainant may be either male or female, and the accused may be either male or female in sexual assaults. That's one reason that many jurisdictions no longer use the term "rape", substituting the more gender neutral "sexual assault", specifying both the degree and type of sexual assault involved in the particular crime. Canada, Australia, and several U.S. states, have removed the use of the term "rape" from their criminal codes. These changes were brought about to provide better protection to male victims, and to have sexual crimes against men regarded as equally serious to those where the victims are female.

You have opposed those expansions in sexual assault laws that were instituted to better protect male victims, which is blatantly hypocritical for anyone allegedly supporting "men's rights.'

If your thinking was anti-sexual assault, rather than simply anti-female, your alleged concern about anyone's rights might have better credibility. You seem to have no interest in seeing crimes of sexual assault eradicated.



nononono
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 09:38 pm
@firefly,
Just wondering firefly, do you believe that false claims of sexual assault should be prosecuted?

I mean because when someone knowingly lies in print about another person they can be sued for libel. If someone knowingly lies about someone else in a broadcast they can be sued for slander. These are both considered defamation.

But it's also against the law to file false police reports. That can result in criminal charges.

And if you do think that false claims of sexual assault should be prosecuted, don't you think that more should be done to make this happen? Don't you think that law enforcement should be more aggressive in prosecuting these liars? I mean in the court of public opinion, being falsely viewed as a rapist can be pretty damaging to a person's life and well being.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2014 09:49 pm
@nononono,
Dear Nononono, I have found you to be profoundly disappointing. If you assume women are more privileged than men, I must conclude you have few marketable talents. Only frightened, insecure men make such ridiculous statements. The same sort of man tends to troll the mail order bride sites looking for slave mates. I really hope you are in your 70's, because if you're a young man, our educational system is flawed.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 03:45 am
@glitterbag,
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Only frightened, insecure men make such ridiculous statements.


Sure there is nothing to fear about having males college students facing kangaroo courts with none of the protections given to the accused in the real legal system anytime a dating relationship go bad enough that a young woman wish for a little revenge.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 04:00 am
@nononono,
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Just wondering firefly, do you believe that false claims of sexual assault should be prosecuted?


Sorry but I had attempted over the years to pin her down on how she would feel about having false claims of rapes punished at the same level as the crime of rape itself.

All I could get from her is that the current laws against filing a false police report should cover it and it is not in fact the fault of the person who file a false police report but the police and the legal system who give her report credit that cause a man to go through as must hell as a rape victim in many cases due to false charges. Women do not after all prosecuted men for rape it is the court system had been her logic, if you can call it logic.

She is more then happy over having the crime of leveling false charges of rape being a minor misdeed that when it is given any punishment at all it tend to be a very mild slap on the wrist.

The UK to it credit have been known to come down hard on such women but in the US it is still a cheap crime to do.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 05:37 am
@nononono,
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But it's also against the law to file false police reports. That can result in criminal charges

The filing of an intentionally false report of a crime with the police can result in criminal charges, but it's entirely up to law enforcement whether they want to pursue those charges since they are the party directly affected by deliberately false reports--deliberately false reports waste police time and resources. The criminal charge for deliberately filing a false police report is considered a serious misdemeanor.
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And if you do think that false claims of sexual assault should be prosecuted, don't you think that more should be done to make this happen? Don't you think that law enforcement should be more aggressive in prosecuting these liars?

I don't think that intentionally false police reports of sexual assault are necessarily worse than intentionally false reports of other crimes, in terms of the impact on police resources. Deliberately false reports of a missing person, for instance, can result in costly massive searches that waste considerable manpower and taxpayers money. Again, it's up to law enforcement whether they want to use even more time and money prosecuting the filing of false reports, and they often do prosecute when reports can be shown to be intentionally false and deliberately misleading.

And intentionally false police reports of sexual assaults do not always include false allegations against any specific individuals. There are instances where people falsely report sexual assaults committed by some unknown stranger, when no actual sexual assault took place. This is sometimes done to conceal a consensual sexual contact with someone the person knows, but which they don't want revealed or held responsible for.

Someone who intentionally lies under oath in a criminal matter, including a crime of sexual assault, should be prosecuted for perjury, and such crimes are often prosecuted.
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I mean because when someone knowingly lies in print about another person they can be sued for libel. If someone knowingly lies about someone else in a broadcast they can be sued for slander. These are both considered defamation.... I mean in the court of public opinion, being falsely viewed as a rapist can be pretty damaging to a person's life and well being.

Issues of defamation of character are not criminal matters, they are civil matters. It's not up to law enforcement to take action in a situation where one person has intentionally and maliciously maligned the character of another person with a false accusation--it's not a criminal matter.

It's up to the person who feels they have been maliciously defamed or harmed to seek remedies and damages in civil court, by bringing a civil suit against the person who has done this--just as is the case in libel and slander. And people who have maliciously been accused of sexual assaults can, and sometimes do, bring such civil suits against the parties who have done this to them. A successful civil suit enables the individual to restore their good name, and to receive monetary compensation for damages.

Sexual assault victims can also bring civil suits against their attackers, even if a criminal proceeding did not result in a conviction.

I take the matter of maliciously false allegations very seriously. These can be extremely damaging to those accused, and they also affect the credibility of others who have actually been sexually assaulted. Such intentionally malicious behavior should definitely be discouraged, primarily through the civil courts, but also in the criminal courts when possible. I also take the matter of sexual assault very seriously, since that also damages lives, and that type of malicious behavior must also be discouraged, primarily through the criminal courts, but also in the civil courts when possible.

Here's a very recent case of a woman who was prosecuted and convicted for filing a false report. As is the case with many false reports, this one did not involve a false allegation against any particular individual.
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St. George woman sentenced in false rape report incident
Kevin Jenkins,
May 21, 2014

ST. GEORGE – A woman convicted on charges of falsely reporting she was raped on a St. George jogging trail was sentenced Wednesday in 5th District Court to jail time, financial restitution and to write letters of apology to those people affected by her pretense.

Sarah Elizabeth Rutz, 27, was ordered to pay $26,559.96 in restitution for services she received from the crime victim reparations fund while she claimed to need help recovering from the trauma of the crime.

Judge G. Michael Westfall also ordered Rutz to spend 30 days in jail in increments of two days per week beginning next Wednesday.

“This is a serious crime, and it had an impact on the community,” Deputy County Attorney Brian Filter said. “It had an impact on the legitimate victims in sexual assault cases.”

Rutz filed the false report with police in May 2012, claiming she was attacked on a path near the intersection of Sunset Boulevard and Dixie Drive in an apparent effort to disguise a sexual encounter she had with a man she met via the Internet.

The woman’s husband and police found evidence of her illicit relationship.

The terms of Rutz’s sentence largely were dictated by Judge James Shumate prior to Shumate’s retirement in late March, following a deal between the prosecution and defense for guilty pleas in the case.

Rutz pleaded guilty to a felony count of making a fraudulent claim to the crime victim reparations fund and a misdemeanor count of providing false information to a law enforcement officer, but the plea deal allows the possibility for the felony charge to be reduced to a class-B misdemeanor if Rutz successfully completes three years of probation she was granted in lieu of prison time.

Westfall noted that Rutz may be unable to repay the full restitution to the fund within three years, so a new hearing likely will be scheduled to review the situation as the probation expires.

The fund is financed by fines and fees that crime perpetrators are ordered to pay, and provides assistance to victims for things such as counseling, medical and funeral expenses that aren’t covered by insurance and other resources.

Rutz also must complete 100 hours of community service and complete any treatment recommended by a mental health evaluation.

Defense attorney Kenneth Combs questioned one of the terms of probation – that Rutz be required to write three letters of apology.

“(The police) put a lot of effort into investigating this case,” Westfall said.

Combs acknowledged the need to apologize to police and family members, but he disagreed with the request for a similar letter to Rutz’s former co-workers at SkyWest.

“I understand why the co-workers feel victimized. They supported her,” Combs said. “(But) they were regularly present in the court hearings for a long time. … To the point my client was feeling a bit harassed.”

Filter told Westfall the co-workers have an interest in the case because they provided babysitting services and donated their time on her behalf at work so Rutz could “recover” from the incident.

“Her family and co-workers were greatly impacted by this,” Filter said.

“Frankly, this discussion has persuaded me even more that she should write a letter to her former co-workers,” Westfall said after hearing the arguments. “(The letters) are mostly for her to go through the process.”
http://www.thespectrum.com/story/news/local/2014/05/21/st-george-woman-sentenced-false-rape-report-incident/2343090/


Here's another very recent case where someone is being charged with a false report that did include a false allegation against a specific individual.
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Police: Woman falsely accused Dubuque officer of sexual assault
May 30, 2014 3:30 pm
Telegraph Herald

A Mason City, Iowa, woman faces a criminal charge for allegedly filing a false sexual assault report against a Dubuque police officer.

Rachel R. Winters, 36, is charged in Dubuque District Court with filing a false report, a serious misdemeanor. An initial court appearance has yet to be scheduled.
http://www.thonline.com/news/tri-state/article_4fab5e5e-e839-11e3-a7de-0017a43b2370.html


Here's another case where the false report resulted in jail time..
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Rockland woman gets 60 days in jail for false sexual assault report
By Stephen Betts, BDN Staff
Aug. 28, 2013,

ROCKLAND, Maine — A Rockland woman who was convicted earlier this month of making a false sexual assault report to police will be spending 60 days in jail.

Octavia Faustini was sentenced Wednesday afternoon in Knox County Superior Court by Justice Jeffrey Hjelm to the jail term for convictions on two counts — filing a false report and unsworn falsification. A jury had convicted her on Aug. 1.

Both crimes were in connection to her report last fall to Rockland police that she had been sexually assaulted by a former boyfriend who was a convicted sex offender. She had claimed that the assault occurred in her room at the Brunswick Rooms in Rockland.

Assistant District Attorney Jeffrey Baroody asked for a 90-day jail term. He said a significant jail term was needed as deterrence. Faustini has a criminal record that includes a 2002 conviction for filing a false report of sexual assault, the prosecutor said. She was fined $100 in that case.

Faustini’s criminal record also includes assaulting an officer, assault, criminal mischief and telephone harassment, Baroody said.

Hjelm agreed a significant jail sentence was warranted because of Faustini’s record as well as her manipulating the criminal justice system and taking up police time for a crime that did not occur. He also said that the false allegation had a potentially significant negative effect on her former boyfriend.

Defense attorney Joseph Steinberger asked that sentencing be delayed for a year to allow Faustini to perform community service to show that she can be a productive citizen. He suggested she could volunteer five hours a week at either the Humane Society of Knox County or at New Hope for Women.

Steinberger said his client suffered from significant mental illness and is supported by Social Security disability payments.

Faustini’s mental health caseworker and an employee of New Hope spoke on her behalf.

Both crimes for which Faustini was convicted were Class D misdemeanors, which carried a maximum potential penalty of 364 days in jail.
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/08/28/news/midcoast/rockland-woman-gets-60-days-in-jail-for-false-sexual-assault-report/


But, when we talk about false reports we are talking about crimes that did not occur. I started this thread to discuss those crimes of sexual assault which do occur.

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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 06:05 am
The situation in the U.K. is much the same as in the U.S.
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Rape investigations 'undermined by belief that false accusations are rife'
DPP says study shows false allegations of rape and domestic violence are rarer than many believe
Owen Bowcott, legal affairs correspondent
The Guardian,
Tuesday 12 March 2013

A "misplaced belief" that false accusations of rape or domestic violence are commonplace may be undermining police and prosecutors' efforts to investigate such crimes, the director of public prosecutions has warned.

Keir Starmer QC, speaking as he published a study showing there were only a few false allegations during 17 months over 2011 and 2012, said police should not adopt "an over-cautious approach" because "of the understandable concern that some allegations are false".

In the aftermath of the Jimmy Savile scandal, and separate concerns about the handling of rape cases by two police forces, Starmer told the Guardian: "Because people recognise the devastating effect of false allegations and because they perceive there to be more false allegations than this report would suggest there are, arguably they adopt a cautious approach. If [that] leads to a more rigorous test being applied when people report rape or domestic violence, then that can lead to injustice for victims."

The study released on Wednesday by the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) reveals that during the 17-month test period – when all false allegation cases were referred to the DPP – there were 5,651 prosecutions for rape and 111,891 for domestic violence in England and Wales.

By comparison, over the same timespan, there were only 35 prosecutions for making false allegations of rape, six for false allegations of domestic violence and three that involved false allegations of both rape and domestic violence.

"Victims of rape and domestic violence must not be deterred from reporting the abuse they have suffered," Starmer says in the foreword to the report. "We have worked hard to dispel the damaging myths and stereotypes which are associated with these cases.

"One such misplaced belief is that false allegations of rape and domestic violence are rife."

Starmer's latest comments – which relate primarily to adults – come in the week that Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary concluded that Savile's sexual abuse could have been stopped as early as 1964, but the police mishandled evidence and dismissed victims.

Last month, it emerged that police at a specialist sex crimes unit in Southwark, south London, had manipulated crime statistics by failing to record sexual assault allegations in 2008-09, according to a report by the Independent Police Complaints Commission. The Guardian has also revealed that the IPCC has raised concerns about the way police in south Wales have handled allegations of assaults after the deaths of four women in domestic violence incidents.

"The mere fact that someone did not pursue a complaint or retracted it, is not of itself evidence that it was false," Starmer said. The report's demonstration that false allegations were relatively rare is therefore highly significant, he said. "That's why the numbers are really important."

The CPS report, written by Alison Levitt QC, principal legal adviser to the DPP, also aims to dispel the prejudice that those who make repeated complaints about being victims of sexual crimes should not be believed. It states: "Research indicates that a person may be targeted precisely because s/he is vulnerable, and as a result there is every possibility that s/he may have been a victim of rape or other violence on more than one occasion."

False allegations can ruin reputations and devastate lives, Starmer added. "Such cases will be dealt with robustly and those falsely accused should feel confident that the criminal justice system will prosecute these cases wherever there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest to do so."

Of 159 suspects linked to allegedly false claims referred to the CPS between January 2011 and May 2012, 92% were women. Nearly half of them were 21 or under. One surprise was that in 38% of those investigations, the initial complaint of rape or domestic violence was made by someone other than the suspect. Among those under 18 it was 50% and often involved a parent.

"It was a feature of these cases that the suspect later reported that the whole thing had spiralled out of control and he or she had felt unable to stop the investigation," the CPS report says.

The exceptionally high levels of domestic violence revealed in the figures are in line with recent increases. Citizens Advice said last week it had seen an 11% increase in cases of domestic violence reported to it in the last three months of 2012, compared with the year before.

Starmer said: "I have raised concerns about [the levels of] domestic violence prevalent among young people, in particular young girls aged 16 to 19 are probably now most at risk. We may have a new generation [suffering from such abuse]. I have no reason to think this problem is reducing."

Following completion of the CPS study, false allegation cases involving rape and domestic violence will no longer routinely be referred to the DPP. "These cases will now be handled by [CPS] areas rather than headquarters, but we will continue to have an assurance regime where reports are sent in every six months," Starmer said.

Sample cases will be checked periodically to ensure they are being handled correctly, he added. He said he was confident that all of the prosecutions that took place during the 17 month period were correctly handled and necessary.

He responded to a letter in the Guardian from Women Against Rape and others who complained that "rape victims continue to be prosecuted" and that it "prevents victims from coming forward and encourages rapists to attack again".

In a new letter today, Starmer writes: "False allegations of rape are rare, but they can, and do, devastate the lives of those falsely accused and must be treated seriously. My guidance to prosecutors highlights the fact that these cases must be informed by wider circumstances, for example, a prosecution would be highly unlikely where a woman may have retracted a true allegation of rape in the context of an abusive relationship."

The CPS report highlighted increasing use of mobile phones in rape cases – as in all other areas of crime. There have been cases where offenders have sent pictures to humiliate victims.

It also pointed to occasions where those accused of rape recorded the incident to prove sex had been consensual. In one case referred to in the report, a group of men who had given a woman a lift home filmed her when they left her to prove she was unharmed.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/mar/13/rape-investigations-belief-false-accusations
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 05:29 pm
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http://www.saveservices.org/falsely-accused/sex-assault/accusing-u/


Accusing U.

American colleges are in the midst of a civil rights crisis that is undermining fundamental notions of fairness and justice. As the president of the National Association of Scholars explains:

“It took our civilization a few thousand years…to put the presumption of innocence and the right to face one’s accusers at the center of the proceedings. It has taken the higher-education establishment and the White House Task Force just a few months to figure out that all that fuss was unnecessary.” — Peter Wood

Rape StatisticsTo put the issue in perspective, rapes have fallen dramatically in recent decades — see graph. Despite that fact, the White House claims that “one-in-five” college women are victims of sexual assault — a number that is grossly inflated because it confuses rape with drunken sex. Campus activists are now using the one-in-five number to promote the far-fetched claim that we live in a “rape culture.”

To address the problem of campus sexual assault, Stop Abusive and Violent Environments is proposing enactment of the Safety of Our Students (SOS) Act.

The need for the SOS Act is revealed by a growing number of lawsuits and over 100 editorials published in 2014 (and nearly 300 editorials published 2011 – 2013). These articles highlight widespread concerns whether rape victims are well served by the campus sex panels, about the veracity of the one-in-five claim, and regarding the curtailment of due process rights for the accused:

Michelle Goldberg: Why the Campus Rape Crisis Confounds Colleges – June 23
Spencer Case: Should Guilt and Innocence Matter On Campus? - June 16
KC Johnson: Not So Credible Analysts of Campus Rape – June 16
Bob Unruh: You Won’t Believe New Campus Rules on ‘Rape’ – June 15
Cathy Young: The Brown Case: Does It Still Look Like Rape? – June 15
Steve Greenhut: California Bill Would Reach into College Students’ Bedrooms – June 15
George Will: George Will Responds to Senators on his Sexual Assault Column – June 13
Stan Sinberg: Bill Proposes to Make College Students Resent Lawyers – June 13
Charlotte Hays: Latest Bogus Figure: 51 Percent Surge in Sex Crimes on Campus - June 13
Caroline Kitchens: Are Campus Sex Crimes on the Rise? - June 13
Robin Wilson: Opening New Front in Campus-Rape Debate, Brown Student Tells Education Dept. His Side - June 12
Heather Wilhem: Feminists and Their Daddy Issues – June 12
COTWA: Affirmative Consent Co-Author: “Your guess is as good as mine.” – June 12
Joanna Williams: Female Students Shouldn’t Play the Victim Card – June 11
Andrew Johnson: Will’s Bout with Feminists - June 11
Daniel Drezner: There are Actual Tradeoffs Involved in Addressing Sexual Assaults in College – June 11
Mark Tapson: Miss USA’s Self-Defense Empowerment – June 10
Sandy Banks: Campuses Must Distinguish Between Assault and Youthful Bad Judgment – June 9
Cathy Young: California Bill Brings Government Into the Bedroom – June 9
Charlotte Hays: George Will on the Administration’s Suspect Campus Sexual Assault Statistic – June 9
KC Johnson: Warning: Try Not to Have Sex at Stanford - June 9
Cathy Young: Brown University Student Speaks Out on What It’s Like to Be Accused of Rape – June 8
Josh Dulaney: Students Question ‘Affirmative Consent’ Bill Designed to Combat Sexual Assaults – June 8
George Will: The Fruits of Progressivism - June 7
Teresa Watanabe: More College Men are Fighting Back Against Sexual Misconduct Cases – June 7
Joshua Rhett Miller: Good Grades, Good Home Gets College Student Profiled as Rapist, Claims Lawsuit - June 6
KC Johnson: Occidental and the “Rape Culture” Hysteria - June 6
Brandon Camhi: Don’t Rush to Embrace Mandatory Expulsion Until All Rights Protected - June 5
FIRE: Sexual Assault Injustice at Occidental: College Railroads Accused Student – June 4
COTWA: Stanford Grad Students Want Men Accused of Rape Kicked off Campus Altogether While the School’s Investigation Drags on for Months - June 4
Tyler Kingkade: Students Expelled For Sexual Assault Turning To Lawsuits To Regain Diplomas – June 4
Brendan Malone: How Not to Solve the Problem of Rape Culture – June 4
FIRE: A Closer Look at Senator McCaskill’s Second Roundtable on Campus Sexual Assault – June 4
KC Johnson: Duke’s “Independent Investigator” Erodes Due Process - June 3
Blake Neff: Activists Raise Alarm About California Sex Assault Bill - June 2
Jacob Gershman: Judge Blocks Expulsion of Duke Student Accused of Sexual Misconduct – June 2
COTWA: University of Oregon Senate Lowered the Standard to “Preponderance of the Evidence,” But Some Didn’t Understand What That Means - June 2
Samantha Harris: California ‘Affirmative Consent’ Bill Puts Colleges in Untenable Position - June 2
Amy Otto: What The White House Said About Sexual Assault And Why They’re Wrong – June 1
AJ Delgado: What Happens When You Challenge ‘Rape Culture’ Orthodoxy - May 30
Joe Cohn: NCHERM’s Open Letter on Campus Sexual Assault Reveals Common Ground - May 30
KC Johnson: Duke, Grossly Unfair Again, Is Back in Court - May 29
COTWA: Commentary on the NCHERM ‘Open Letter to Higher Education about Sexual Violence’ - May 29
KC Johnson: Second Thoughts Among Foes of Due Process? - May 28
COTWA: Does Sen. McCaskill Acknowledge the Need for Due Process in Efforts to Curb Campus Sexual Violence? - May 28
FIRE: College Risk Management Lawyers Call Out FIRE (Without Doing Their Homework) - May 27
Cathy Young: Another Side to the Campus Sexual-Assault Mess – May 26
Susan Kruth: Court Allows Suit by Expelled Saint Joseph’s Student to Proceed - May 22
KC Johnson: Here Come the Lawsuits over Sex Hearings: Accused Males Take on Columbia and Drew – May 22
Scott Greenfield: When Drunk Becomes Rape (Because Some Profs Say So) - May 21
Hans Bader: Punishment First, Trial Later, or Never: The Education Department’s Investigation of Tufts University – May 21
Minding the Campus: Combatting Mainstream Silence on Campus Star Chambers - May 21
Charlotte Hays: Presumed Guilty Is the New Standard Where Sex Is Concerned – May 20
Anna Windemuth: At Columbia, Suit Alleges Sexual Assault Investigation Discriminated Against Male Student - May 19
Hans Bader: On Colleges and Evidence Standards – May 19
KC Johnson: More on Vassar’s Rigged Sex Hearing – May 19
John Banzhaf: Students Accused of Rape Can Fight Back: Court OKs Suits Against University, Employees, and Female – May 19
AJ Delgado: Crying Rape – May 19
William Jacobson: Suspended Columbia Athlete Files Federal Lawsuit over Campus Sexual Assault Conviction - May 19
Mark Perry: Before Declaring a ‘Rape Epidemic,’ has Anybody Checked the Actual Data? Apparently Not. – May 17
Daily Caller: Obama Administration’s Sexual-Assault Tribunals Are Hysterical Witch Hunts Against Men – May 16
Jonathan Taylor: Vigilante Rape Hysteria at Columbia University – May 16
KC Johnson: A Win for an Accused Male at St. Joe’s - May 16
Christina Hoff Sommers: Rape Culture is a ‘Panic Where Paranoia, Censorship, and False Accusations Flourish’ - May 15
Community of the Wrongly Accused: Shocking Injustice at Columbia University: A Student is Fired from the School Blog on the Basis of an Unfounded Accusation - May 15
Matthew Kaiser: Some Rules About Consent Are ‘Unfair to Male Students’ - May 15
Nikita Chirov: Eshan Jayamanne Exclusive Interview; Response to Criticism – May 15
Jeb Rubenfeld: ‘Overbroad Definitions of Sexual Assault are Deeply Counter-Productive’ – May 15
Diane Dietz: Rights Complaint Slams UO - May 14
Derek Draplin: U-M Sued Over Questionable Investigation of “Sexual Misconduct” – May 14
Cathy Young: Colleges Can’t Play Cop in Sexual Assault Investigations - May 14
Peter Wood: The White House War on Men – May 14
Community of the Wrongly Accused: Sandra Fluke Wants to Further Erode Your Son’s Rights on Campus - May 14
KC Johnson: The Times’ Shoddy Reporting on Campus Rape – May 13
Caroline Kitchens: Overreaching on Campus Rape - May 13
Los Angeles Times Editorial Board: How to Deal with the Campus Sexual Assault Crisis – May 13
Nikita Chirkov: Trinity University Student Kicked Out of School and Deported after Shady Sexual Assault Procedures – May 13
Wall Street Journal Letters to the Editor: On Fairly Adjudicating College Sexual-Assault Charges - May 12
Gordon Finley: Sex: The New War on Men – May 12
KC Johnson: A Bizarre Report on Campus Rape – May 11
Mark Perry: Only 1 in 36 Women at Ohio State are Sexually Assaulted, Not 1 in 5 – May 9
Samantha Harris: Sexual-Assault Task-Force Folly - May 8
Kathleen A. Bogle and Anne M. Coughlin: The Missing Key to Fighting Sexual Assault on Campus – May 8
Heather McDonald: The Obama Administration’s Deserving Victims – May 8
Froma Harrop: Victims of Campus Rape Should be Dialing 911 – May 8
Liz Peek: How College Sex Became Obama’s War on Men - May 7
Daniel Henninger: Creating a Federal Hunting License – May 7
Cathy Young: The White House’s Report on Campus Sexual Assault Relies on the Lowest Common Denominator – May 6
Naomi Riley: The Real Rx for Campus Rape — Give Up on Liberal ‘Answers’ - May 6
Charlotte Hays: About the White House’s Sexual Assault Statistics… - May 6
USA Today Editorial Board: College Rape Tribunals Fail Students – May 6
Community of the Wrongly Accused: Yes, Department of Education, Colleges Routinely Mishandle Sexual Assault Claims, But Not in the Way You Think - May 6
Will Creeley: Concern Grows over White House Task Force’s Recommendations - May 6
Abby Schachter: Rape and Justice: Why Shoddy Numbers are to be Avoided - May 6
Samantha Harris: One in Five? The White House’s Questionable Sexual Assault Data - May 5
Megan McArdle: Rape on Campus Belongs in the Courts – May 5
Wendy Kaminer: Victimizing the Accused? Obama’s Campus Sexual Assault Guidelines Raise Concerns – May 5
Matt Kaiser and Justin Dillon: The White House Flunks a Test on Sexual Assault - May 5
Cathy Reinsenwitz: How Government Created the Campus Rape Crisis - May 3
KC Johnson: 55 Schools the Feds will Investigate - May 2
Glenn Kessler (Washington Post Fact Checker): One in Five Women in College Sexually Assaulted: The Source of this Statistic - May 1
Robert Shibley: Due Process, Clarity Suffer As Feds Tackle Campus Sexual Assault - May 1
Charlotte Hays: More on the White House’s Bogus Rape Statistic - May 1
Mark Perry: More on the White House Claim that 1 in 5 Women are Sexually Assaulted While in College – April 30
Hans Bader: Obama Administration Attacks Cross-Examination and Due Process Rights in Campus Guidance – April 30
Mark Perry: How About a ‘Renewed Call’ for the WH to Stop Spreading False Campus Sexual Assault Information? - April 29
KC Johnson: The White House Joins the War on Men – April 29
Robby Soave: WH Report On Sexual Assault Gets Major Facts Wrong, Threatens Freedom - April 29
Charlotte Hays: “Advocacy Research” Has Produced Bogus Statistics on Campus Sexual Violence - April 29
Jonathan Taylor: Brett Sokolow to Education Administrators: Stop Punishing Men for Consensual Drunk Sex – April 29
Foundation for Individual Rights in Education: FIRE Responds to White House Task Force Report on Campus Sexual Assault - April 29
Timothy Phelps: Guidelines to Curb Campus Sexual Assaults Raise Concerns for Accused - April 29
James Taranto: The Other Side of Title IX – April 28
Sandy Hingston: Rape, Rape-Rape and Sexual Assault at Colleges – April 28
KC Johnson: Fighting Rape by Treating Due Process as an Alien Concept - April 25
Brett Sokolow: Sex and Booze – April 24
Bob Unruh: Cry Rape? Not Enough for Campus Convictions - April 3
KC Johnson: A Partial Victory for Due Process on Campus – April 3
Caroline Kitchens: It’s Time to End ‘Rape Culture’ Hysteria - March 20
KC Johnson: ‘Rape Culture’ Fraud — Unmasking a Delusion – March 18
Bob Unruh: College Facing Trial for Branding Innocent Student ‘Rapist’ – March 14
KC Johnson: A First — Accused of Rape, Xavier Student Wins a Round in Federal Court – March 13
Wendy McElroy: Making Men Rapists – March 12
Suzanne Venker: College Men Aren’t Closet Rapists – March 7
KC Johnson: Task Force Comment – March 4
Barbara Kay: Rape Culture and the Delusions of the Feminist Mind - February 28
Bob Unruh: Feds Want Campus Sex Convictions Made Easier – February 24
Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network: Recommendations to the White House Task Force – February 28
KC Johnson: A Deceptive California Bill on Campus Rape – February 16
William Jacobson: Is Dartmouth Now a Due Process Danger Zone for Men? - February 15
KC Johnson: The Misguided Campaign to Protect Women – February 9
Cathy Young: Criminal Law and the Moral Panic on Campus Rape – January 28
Suzanne Venker: Memo to VP Biden: Male Rapists are Not Lurking on Every Campus Corner – January 27
Katherine Connell: Twisting Sexual Assault Statistics – January 24
Cathy Young: The White House Overreaches on Campus Rape - January 23
KC Johnson: Newsweek, California, and Campus Rape Tribunals – January 9
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Christina Hoff Sommers: “Advocacy Research” Has Produced Bogus Statistics on Campus Sexual Violence
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 09:58 pm
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Six Texas men face 1,600 years in prison each for 'gang-raping' 15-year-old high school student after she skipped class
By Michael Zennie
12 June 2014

Six Texas men are facing more than 1,600 years in prison each after being accused of gang raping a 15-year-old high school student after she skipped class earlier this year.

A grand jury in Waco, Texas, on Wednesday indicted Devoric Javon Evans, 20; Lamont Tray Davis, 19; Day’tron Derrell Smith, 18; Da’Juan Oshea Degrate, 18; and Cory Darnell Hall, 18; and Douglas Demond Canada, 19.

Police say Canada and Degrate convinced the teen to cut class at Waco High School, where all three are students on April 23.

The Waco Tribune-Herald reports that when the girl arrived at the home where they were planning to 'hang out,' four other men were there.

'She went with a couple of boys she thought she knew, and then a bad situation became much worse,' Waco police Sergeant Patrick Swanton told the newspaper.

When the girl arrived, the men allegedly asked her if she was 'freaky.'

Cananda began by raping the girl in the bathroom, according to authorities.

Hall told police he heard the girl telling Canada to stop and he refused.

According to court, documents, she told police: 'I told him to stop, but he wouldn’t.

'Then he walked me out to the bedroom and the other boys were there. They all had sex with me one at a time.'

Canada is charged with 13 counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child and three counts of sexual assault of a child.

The other five are each charged with 13 counts of first-degree felony aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of sexual assault of a child.

Together each man faces more than 1,300 years in prison.

The steep sentence is because the men were indicted of 'acting in concert' with each other - making each one responsible for the other's crimes.

The horrific case is the second Texas gang rape in recent years to draw national headlines.

In 2010, an 11-year-old girl in the tiny town of Cleveland, Texas, was repeatedly raped by 21 men and teenagers in a squalid trailer. The suspects who pleaded guilty received sentences between 7 and 15 years. Two men who took the case to trail were given 99-year terms behind bars.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2656647/Six-Texas-men-face-1-600-years-prison-gang-raping-15-year-old-high-school-student-skipped-class.html#ixzz34xXOMrpz

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 10:25 pm
@firefly,
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Six Texas men face 1,600 years in prison each


In other words infinity plus 1500 years....and yet you still go out there everyday and try to defend this fucked up system.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 10:31 pm
@hawkeye10,
They should have considered the consequences before the six of them raped that girl.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 10:53 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

They should have considered the consequences before the six of them raped that girl.
the state should have considered the optics of laying in so many charges that one citizen could get 1600 years jail time for one bad act.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 11:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
The state is obviously sending a strong message of zero tolerance for this sort of group rape of a child. And each of them is considered responsible for the crimes of the others. They all allowed these crimes to happen. That's what 'acting in concert' means.

It wasn't "one bad act" for the girl involved--she was repeatedly raped.

Hopefully, they'll take a plea and spare that child the additional ordeal of a trial.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2014 11:59 pm
@firefly,
When ever you find yourself saying " hopefully these citizens will not try to exercise their Constitutional rights" know that you have gone round the bend.
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