Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@glitterbag,

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BillRM and Hawkeye firmly believe that any female over the age of 8, is in desperate need of having a brute penetrate their genital areas. All these poor guys are languishing in prison for accommodating the unholy urges of this demographic, also known as women of any age. They believe that unless they are wearing chastity belts they are fair game. If their fathers or husbands were smart, they would make sure their daughters and wives we constantly protected with armed bodyguards, but only eunuchs. Exactly how they know this is unknowable. That's something stored away in their fevered imagination. Most of the population is horrified that such things happen. I think that sums it up. This conversation was started in 2010 and I don't know how it got legs.

That is an interesting summary now my question to you is do your used the darknet to get your drugs or do you go the old fashion route as no one could read either my postings or Hawkeye and come up with such a summary unless you mind had been blown by heavy heavy heavy drug use.

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@hawkeye10,

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the man has no interest in facilitating this much government control of the sexual choices my woman and I make for ourselves. Drunk sex can be fantastic, and I have no desire to deprive myself of it.

If you and your partner have both made such choices, the government isn't interested either, because you're not likely to be charged with sexual assault/rape in such a situation.

We are discussing sexual assault/rape--not your sexual preferences with a partner you know to be consenting because of prior agreement with her on the matter.

Look, your real interest in this topic has to do with your preference for BDSM sexual activity, you've told us that. And your real fear is that sexual assault/rape laws will someday impinge on that sort of thing over issues of "consent".

Hence your paranoia about those big bad "feminists". It's easier for you to blame murky bogeymen "feminists--who you never specifically identify--because you can't acknowledge that sexual assault/rape laws are crafted and passed by state legislators--people we elected to do those things, people who represent us in such matters.

But that is not directly related to the topic of campus sexual assault/rapes--their reporting and disposition-- which are considered to be crimes in which existing laws have already been violated.

Even though you consider "drunk sex" to be "fantastic", and have no desire to deprive yourself of it, your partner must also choose/knowingly consent to it as well. Otherwise it is sexual assault/rape. And if you are charged with such a crime it will become the government's business, just as it would if you were charged with stealing property, or failing to report all of your income to the IRS.

This isn't about your strawmen, or your paranoia, or your personal sexual preferences--it is about existing sexual assault/rape laws and their violation. If you choose to violate such laws, you may well find yourself charged with a crime.

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@hawkeye10,

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Leave it to a NSA employee to not understand that some people find the increasing government control of our sex lives to be alarming......

She is an NSA employee? What kind of screening do they do on their employees?

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@firefly,

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If you and your partner have both made such choices, the government isn't interested either, because you're not likely to be charged with sexual assault/rape in such a situation.

I am as comforted by that as gays were recently being told that while their sodomy was an illegal act they were not likely to be charged.

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@hawkeye10,

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I am as comforted by that as gays were recently being told that while their sodomy was an illegal act they were not likely to be charged.

That's also still true of marital rape. In fact, it's true of most sexual assaults/rapes. They are underreported and under-prosecuted, so the likelihood of an offender being charged is low. Unfortunately, that's a reason such crimes can be committed with impunity.

Sodomy is still an illegal act when it occurs without consent--and that's true for both heterosexuals and homosexuals.

The issue of discrimination against homosexuals, simply because they are homosexuals, is not what this topic is about. Homosexuals have been discriminated against, and persecuted, in many ways. Fortunately, the sexual assault/rape laws now give homosexuals better protection from such unwanted contacts, and are on a par with the protections afforded to heterosexuals.

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@hawkeye10,

The revelations about Jimmy Savile, and those like him, had absolutely nothing to do with feminism. Try living in the real world instead of a paranoid fantasy for once

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@firefly,

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I am as comforted by that as gays were recently being told that while their sodomy was an illegal act they were not likely to be charged.

Sodomy is still an illegal act when it occurs without consent.

Please try to pay attention.....the subject is the government removing our right to consent. While I understand that you law and order advocates cheer the ever increasing criminalization of human behavior out of some sadistic thrill you get from making the rest of us bend to your will I happen love the individual freedom that America once promoted.

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@izzythepush,

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Try living in the real world instead of a paranoid fantasy for once

Given that under UK laws consenting adults can not legally consent to S&M sex you have a whole group that need to keep a very low profile and in the UK Hawkeye sex life would placed him at risk.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

The revelations about Jimmy Savile, and those like him, had absolutely nothing to do with feminism. Try living in the real world instead of a paranoid fantasy for once

The predators over at BBC were criminals before the government/feminist cooperative invaded our bedrooms to take control of our sex lives. Obviously.

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@BillRM,

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Try living in the real world instead of a paranoid fantasy for once

Given that under UK laws consenting adults can not legally consent to S&M sex you have a whole group that need to keep a very low profile and in the UK Hawkeye sex life would placed him at risk.

That is where they want people who dont conform....."you are a criminal right now, we can come and get you any time we want so do as you are told". Firefly loves being able to make that threat.

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@izzythepush,

Asking Hawkeye to stop living in a paranoid fantasy is like asking a leopard to change its spots.

His tin foil hat is always firmly in place.

His obsession with "feminism" is how he expresses his paranoid fears of women.

The current inquiry into the reporting and disposition of campus sexual assaults/rapes is being spearheaded by the White House and members of the U.S. Senate.

Hawkeye just can't deal with reality.

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@BillRM,

When was the last time anyone was prosecuted for consensual S&M sex in the UK? Max Mosley had pictures of his S&M parties published in the Sunday papers, and, far from facing prosecution, he successfully sued The News Of The World for suggesting such parties were Nazi themed.

It's also illegal for able bodied men not to practice archery for two hours every Sunday, but nobody gets done for that either.

Hawkeye's got nothing to worry about if what he's doing is consensual. Stop trying to make him out to be something he's not. He's not a martyr, a civil rights activist, or a victim, (no matter how much he tries to paint himself as one,) he's just a dirty bastard, and not a particularly bright one at that.

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@hawkeye10,

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That is where they want people who dont conform....."you are a criminal right now, we can come and get you any time we want so do as you are told". Firefly loves being able to make that threat.

No, I'm not the one doing the threatening. I'm simply reminding you of exsting law.

And, of course we want conformity, in many areas of life, that's why we have laws against speeding, and drunk driving. You just don't like it when those laws impinge on what you feel like doing. Tough, Hawkeye, that's just too bad. Other people live in this society, and they just don't agree with you--they want laws that do protect people from what they don't want done to them, whether it's having their property stolen or their bodies sexually assaulted. Laws are meant to mandate conformity to certain standards of behavior a society agrees upon. That's their purpose.

If you go live on your own desert island, you can call the shots. If you choose to live in a society, you will be subject to rules you might not like, because the world doesn't revolve around you.

Put on your big-boy pants and stop whining like an adolescent who resents his mother setting down the rules of the house.

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@hawkeye10,

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"you are a criminal right now, we can come and get you any time we want so do as you are told". Firefly loves being able to make that threat.

What get me is this is far far more insulting to adult women with Firefly wishing to treat them as children and taking away their rights to consent to sex unless it meet her rules.

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@izzythepush,

The last I read there was a homosexual group into S&M and the police pressure them to turn on each other and they needed to lawyer up to the great disappointment of the police.

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@izzythepush,

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Hawkeye's got nothing to worry about if what he's doing is consensual

Liar, under british law one can not consent to ones abuse, which the courts have held takes place if I leave substantial and/or long lasting marks on your body......of the kind that is typically left using various beating tools in BDSM. The Brits that I have come across tend to be into latex, mummification, and electro torture because there are no marks, and for the moment are relatively free from criminal risk. Photos and video seems to be getting harder to come by though due to the new highly restrictive porn laws.

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@hawkeye10,

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spanner

Operation Spanner was the name of an operation carried out by police in the United Kingdom city of Manchester in 1987, as a result of which a group of homosexual men were convicted of assault occasioning actual bodily harm for their involvement in consensual sadomasochism over a ten-year period.

The resulting House of Lords case (R v Brown, colloquially known as "the Spanner case") ruled that consent was not a valid legal defence for wounding and actual bodily harm in the UK, except as a foreseeable incident of a lawful activity in which the person injured was participating, e.g. surgery.

Legal reform and review of the concern is ongoing and the convictions are controversial[1][2][3][4] due to issues of whether a government or one's self is justified to control one's own body in private situations where the only harm is to consenting adults.

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@BillRM,

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The last I read there was a homosexual group into S&M and the police pressure them to turn on each other and they needed to lawyer up to the great disappointment of the police.

That was back when John Major was in power. Try to answer the question. Dates please, not your generalised gibberish.

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@hawkeye10,

If you need to maim people in order to gain sexual gratification, you should be locked up.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

If you need to maim people in order to gain sexual gratification you should be locked up.

what should happen to me if I gain erotic pleasure from being beaten?

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