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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sat 11 Feb, 2012 03:37 pm
@BillRM,
Your reference Bill has nothing to do with a woman being raped, as she was not raped, rather a lier with her own agenda.

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Rape sometimes occur after boyfriends. husbands and in this case a father find out about the event.


Question Question Question please explain... They find out about the event and cause rape? WT?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 11 Feb, 2012 03:51 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
It was a clear posting found soul that I do not see why you have a problem understanding!

We do no know if the young lady was rape or was a willing part of group sex at a rave that she claimed was rape when the video got out and her father found out about it.

There is any numbers of instants that can be found on the net of women/girls having willingly taken part in group sex and then found themselves lying about it and crying gang rape to cover their ass with a boyfriend or a husband or a father or.........for whatever reason.

The Duke players so call gang rape is another example of a woman falsely charging rape when no rape had occur and in that case no sex had occur even.

Firefly can not in good faith complain about no one stopping or interfering with a rape until a court had rule that a rape had happen at all and not willing sex instead.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sat 11 Feb, 2012 03:55 pm
@BillRM,
But can a woman asked to be raped? Well she can with her partner as an adventure, but in reality? As you don't know whether or not this girl was lying and was not raped, how does it tie into " can a woman asked to be raped", are you suggesting if she consented she asked to be raped? By a gang? Would you really think any girl would ask for that?

I know it's all about Courts, .... I'm talking logically.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 11 Feb, 2012 04:57 pm
@BillRM,
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We do no know if the young lady was rape or was a willing part of group sex at a rave that she claimed was rape when the video got out and her father found out about it.

Cut the crap. This is a gang rape that was videotaped--and the videos left no doubt in the minds of the RCMP that they were witnessing a gang rape of an intoxicated girl.
Whether they will be able to convict someone of the rape is quite apart from whether a rape actually occurred. Because they can't convict someone of a murder does not mean the victim is any less dead. This girl was raped.

The article you posted about the Hofstra case is totally irrelevant--that alleged rape did not take place in public, with a large group of people witnessing it. Are you so steeped in watching pornography that you do not realize that real life consensual sex, on the part of rational females, does not occur under the conditions of that rave gang rape in Canada? And, even in the Hofstra incident, the D.A. felt that the young woman involved was emotionally disturbed, suggesting she had been taken advantage of by the males involved, despite her apparent consent, something you fail to understand.

You do nothing but deny the reality of rape, even when it is captured on videotape.

It is unfortunate that the code of silence prevented them from identifying and arresting more of the males involved in that gang rape, but I am glad that at least one person will very shortly go on trial.

I no longer give a damn what you think on this topic. You are committed to denying the reality of rape, you have insulted actual rape victims who have posted in this thread, you are an apologist for those who do rape, and you have absolutely nothing meaningful to say about actual crimes of rape.

You have used this thread to do nothing more than bash women. And that sort of crap merits no response. Crimes of sexual assault are quite real. Unfortunately, they will not stop, or go away, because you, or anyone else, tries to deny them.



BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 11 Feb, 2012 05:15 pm
@firefly,
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Cut the crap. This is a gang rape that was videotaped--and the videos left no doubt in the minds of the RCMP that they were witnessing a gang rape of an intoxicated girl.


Cut the crap yourself Firefly as no one but the cops who had locked themselves into the idea it was a gang rape early on and would loss a great deal of face if they would backtrack now and some age mates of the woman had seen the tape and of those age mates the opinion seems to be common that it was not rape.

Too many times had such so call gang rapes happen to be no such thing. Oh and that would explain very nicely why no one feel any need to interfere at the time.

See another example of that being the case.

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'Gang rape' woman admits she lied
source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lancashire/8082765.stm
A woman has admitted falsely accusing three men of raping her after video footage on a mobile phone disproved her claims.

Victoria Salter pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice at Preston Crown Court on Wednesday.

The 26-year-old's false allegations of rape led to three men being arrested. But one of the men filmed the incident and provided mobile phone evidence.

Det Insp Marc Nasser said the allegations were "malicious".

She made false report in September, when she said she had been followed home by four men, three raped her while the fourth watched.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 11 Feb, 2012 08:03 pm
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Korea-based U.S. soldier gets 3 years in prison for rape conviction
By Ashley Rowland
Stars and Stripes
February 10, 2012

SEOUL — A Camp Carroll soldier has been sentenced to three years in prison for raping a South Korean woman at her home last summer.

Pvt. Joseph J. Finley, 31, of the 2-1 Air Defense Artillery Battalion, was convicted in Daegu district court on Feb. 3 on a charge of rape resulting in injury. He had pleaded not guilty and has filed an appeal, according to the 8th Army.

According to court sentencing documents, Finley was drinking alone at an off-post bar at 5:30 a.m. on July 24 when he saw a woman leaving alone. He suggested they continue to drink, and the two went to the woman’s house. It was at the home that the rape took place.

When questioned, Finley told police the two had consensual sex but the woman was too drunk to remember it. Police said the private’s story changed repeatedly during the investigation, and contradicted testimony from the victim, as well as the bar owner and staff. Finley’s DNA was also found on the victim, who suffered injuries on her genital area, arms and thighs, according to the court document.

Finley had been stationed at Carroll for one year and had no previous criminal history, the documents stated.

His case has garnered far less publicity in South Korea than two other rape cases involving the U.S. military that took place after the July 24 incident.

In November, Pvt. Kevin Lee Flippin was convicted of brutally raping a South Korean teenager in her boarding house, and sentenced to 10 years in prison — the longest sentence given to a U.S. servicemember in South Korea in nearly 20 years. His sentence was upheld during a January appeal.

A third soldier, Pvt. Kevin Robinson, was charged with rape and larceny in December for allegedly attacking a 17-year-old South Korean woman at her home in Seoul and stealing her laptop. A trial date in his case has not been set.

The Flippin case led to an outcry in South Korea against a perceived increase in U.S. servicemember crime that has included anti-American protests and a push to revise the status of forces agreement. The case also was largely responsible for the reinstatement of an off-post curfew in October.
http://www.stripes.com/news/korea-based-u-s-soldier-gets-3-years-in-prison-for-rape-conviction-1.168182
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 04:38 am
@firefly,
Those damn soldiers they are all evil rapists and should not be allow off base without oversight.

Of course all men are at best evil rapists in waiting only held back barely by law enforcement.

The fact that there are just as many evil women as men in the world and for every date rapist there seems by some studies lasting ten years in one case almost as many women willing to cry rape falsely we should just overlook or at least claim otherwise.

Of course such false charges are a minor matter also that deserve at worst minor punishment as Firefly will tell you it is not the woman who place the man in jail but law enforcement who does so.

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/09/soldier-hero-aquitted-of-raping.html

▲It took a jury only one hour and six minutes to clear 21-year-old soldier hero Sean Spooner of raping an 18-year-old woman he met on Facebook. Spooner, who had saved a captain's life in Afghanistan, said: “I have no idea why" she cried rape, but he thinks “she felt guilty about having sex with me because she had a boyfriend." Spooner describes the terror of awaiting the verdict: "I never felt so scared in my life as when the jury gave the verdict." Spooner spent seven months behind bars: "They refused to give me bail because I live less than ten miles away from her.” His mother does not like the fact her son is named but his accuser can't be identified: "She cannot be named, but everybody knows about Sean and that is not right. It has to change."


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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 05:04 am
@firefly,
http://www.ucmjdefense.com/military-defense-lawyer-recentcases.htm


•October 2011 - U.S. v. Army E-8 - SOUTHCOM, Miami, El Salvador, Fort Sam Houston, TX - Client was a Special Forces soldier accused of violently raping and sodomizing a Salvadoran housekeeper. There was allegedly physical evidence, DNA evidence and numerous eyewitnesses that supported the claim. The El Salvadoran Government wanted our client in jail. To appease the Salvadorans, the American Government spared no expense to win this case. It became an international incident between the US & Salvadorans and Not Guilty was not an option for the US Government.

However, our client took and passed a polygraph and provided evidence to prove his innocence to the US Government. SOUTHCOM disregarded all of his evidence and suppressed it at trial. They wanted to make an example out of this soldier and gain favor with El Salvador by sacrificing one of their own (regardless of his innocence).

To gain an upper hand, the prosecution denied almost all defense witnesses. However, they flew up numerous Salvadoran witnesses and several American witnesses to testify against our client. They also brought a Salvadoran doctor who tested that there was overwhelming physical evidence to prove rape.

To further stack the deck, the Army appointed one of the top Special Victim Prosecutors (SVP) in the Army. Then, they brought in a nationally known civilian prosecutor and expert in sexual assault prosecutions (similar to Nancy Grace) to work with the prosecution and get a conviction.

Mr. Waddington and Capt Dustin Murphy, along with legendary DNA expert, Dean Wideman, mounted a defense for our client with limited resources. We proved that the alleged victim was a hustler and liar, her husband most likely raped her, and that the DNA evidence proved our client's innocence.

Result: NOT GUILTY OF ALL CHARGES

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•October 2011 - U.S. v. Navy E-5 - Rota Navy Base, Spain - Client accused of sexually assaulting a female sailor, tax evasion, fraud, aggravated assault on another female, indecent language, and other offenses. We plead not guilty and fought the charges.

Result: NOT GUILTY OF ALL CHARGES

•July 2011 - U.S. v. Air Force E-4 - Eglin AFB, Florida - Client accused of violently raping, choking and threatening an Air Force Security Forces/Policewoman. After the alleged rape, he supposedly showed her a music video of a woman being raped, killed and eaten and threatened her. This alleged "victim" was very persuasive and could cry on demand. The problem was, she was lying. Our client maintained his innocence throughout the case.

The Air Force brought in their best and most aggressive female sex assault prosecutor, the Nancy Grace of the Air Force. This prosecutor is one of the best in the military.

The defense assembled a Dream Team of their own. Mr. Waddington, ADC Capt Andrew Norton, and Senior ADC Maj Jack Jones mounted their defense by extensively investigating the alleged victim. We were able to prove that the victim was the ex-girlfriend of the accused, after the "rape" they continued to have sex, that the victim posted Facebook messages joking about being raped, and other damaging facts.

In addition, we proved that the victim did not cry rape until after the accused dumped her and started to see another girl. First she claimed that she was pregnant and tried to get back together with the accused. When he refused, she accused him of rape.

We also presented several other airmen that the victim had falsely accused of sex assault and later recanted. The "victim" took the witness stand and lied about all of the above facts because she did not know that we had proof and we had her Facebook records.

Also, she claimed that after she was raped, she was forced to watch the disturbing rape video. We proved that the victim went to a rock concert of the band that made the video and posted pictures about it on Facebook, after the alleged rape.

ALL CHARGES WERE DISMISSED.

This "victim" is still in the Air Force and will likely falsely accuse someone else in the near future. This goes to show that the command is afraid of women that falsely claim to be sexual assault victim. She should be court martialed for perjury and false official statement. Instead, she is still getting preferential treatment.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 05:35 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
how does it tie into " can a woman asked to be raped",


I do not know if you are playing games or just very strange but this thread started many ten of thousands of posts ago as an attempt by Firefly to sell the far left feminist viewpoints on rape laws and how women as a class are victims of evil sex/lust driven men.

Oh and women had no responsibilities for their own actions if they had even one drink and men instead should act as their guardians.

It had develop into this website general rape and sex laws thread and the propaganda title have little meaning beyond that it is the rape and sexual assault thread.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 06:31 am
@FOUND SOUL,
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But can a woman asked to be raped?


Footnote...............

By defining rape as sex with a woman who is under the voluntary influence to any degree of either alcohol or drugs a woman can even begged a man to have sex less alone ask to have sex and it would still be rape under the lack of abilities to grant consent theory.

So in that narrow sense by the new meaning of rape a woman can indeed ask to be rape without question.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 11:31 am
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Police launch rape initiative
February 02, 2012

A new police campaign aims to raise awareness of acquaintance rape among teenagers.

The Only Yes Means Yes initiative was launched on Friday in Somerset secondary schools after trials elsewhere.

Aimed at 14 to 18-year-olds, the idea was prompted by the fact that acquaintance rape, though not commonly-known, is the most prevalent type of rape. Research showed that half of all victims in the Avon and Somerset area are aged 17-21.

It was also prompted by research which showed that reports of sexual abuse and violence increased around school holidays in the force's area. Alcohol, boundaries and consent were an issue on many occasions.

Superintendent Sarah Crew said: "Young people must remember that consent needs to be clear and they should never blame themselves should they become a victim of these crimes. Only yes means yes."

In Avon and Somerset more than 62 per cent of rapes are convicted and the force is second in the country for bringing offenders to justice.

For more information visit www.rapeaware.org.

http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/Raising-teenagers-awareness-rape/story-15110736-detail/story.html

Sounds like an excellent initiative. It is important to focus attention on this age group.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:07 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
Your reference Bill has nothing to do with a woman being raped, as she was not raped, rather a lier with her own agenda.

In case you haven't noticed, BillRM will only bring up non-rapes. His focus is only on cases where rapes have not occurred, which is as illogical as it can get in a thread which is about the crime of rape.

People like BillRM illustrate the need for threads like this one--he perpetuates the rape myths that make it difficult for victims of sexual assault to see their rapists brought to justice. He brands women as liars, feels they "are asking" to be raped if intoxicated, makes excuses for the behavior of rapists, and has yet to discuss actual cases of rape. To listen to him, you'd think that rape, particularly acquaintance or date rape, never occurs, despite the fact that most women are raped by someone known to them.

As you've already noticed, in the case of the rave party gang rape in Canada, he genuinely believes that rational adolescent females "ask to be" gang raped in public places, with crowds watching and taking photos and videos. The fact that he believes that this intoxicated, and possibly drugged, female consented to a documented public sexual assault tells you a great deal about his low opinion of women, as well as how far he will go to deny a rape has occurred, even when it is videotaped. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police have no doubt that the video shows a gang rape, but of course BillRM knows better. Rolling Eyes. He knows women "ask to be raped" in that manner. Rolling Eyes
Well, in about 2 weeks, one of the men who took part in that sexual assault will go on trial. Unlike BillRM, law enforcement recognizes a rape when they see one, and at least one of the suspects in this case will be prosecuted.

You will notice that cases of actual rape don't concern BillRM at all.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:13 pm
@firefly,
It is almost exclusively the young who suffer from confusion over consent......however making this a criminal matter for the men in these sad cases is pretty sadistic. These relationship dysfunctions should be ajudicated by the public health system mainly through conseling intervention, the criminal justice system is not only the wrong tool for the job but is an abusive tool as well.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:17 pm
A fairly typical type of acquaintance rape currently in the news. This man, already a registered sex offender, isn't even claiming it was consensual--he's not sure if she said, "NO!". Well, if he's not sure, he certainly didn't hear, "Yes" and he likely did hear, "No".
Quote:
Man charged with rape near Lewes
Feb. 1, 2012
Written by
TERRI SANGINITI

A registered sex offender from the Lewes area was charged Tuesday for allegedly raping an 18-year-old acquaintance who gave him a lift to his cousin’s house.

State police charged Carl Nathan, 38, with second- and fourth-degree rape and unlawful sexual contact, Master Cpl. Gary Fournier said.

The incident occurred about 3 a.m. on Evette Lane near Lewes as the 18-year-old woman was dropping Nathan off at his cousin’s home. The two knew each other from work, police said.

According to police, the two were parked outside the residence when Nathan started making unwanted advances, first kissing her and then groping her breast as she told him to stop.

Nathan then reached over her and pushed a seat button, making it recline, police said in court records.

The victim told investigators she tried to crawl to get away from Nathan, but he subdued and raped her, according to court records.

When troopers interviewed Nathan, he told them “he may have had sex with the victim and he was not sure if she had told him to stop,” police said in court records.

Nathan was placed on the state’s sex offender registry following a conviction in August 1999 for unlawful sexual contact where the victim was between 16 and 17 years old.

He is being held in the Sussex Correctional Institution after failing to post $40,500 cash bail pending court hearing next week.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:25 pm
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Violence against women: How to prevent date rape
VERONICA PULUMBARIT, GMA News
February 11, 2012

Dating someone we like is meant to be a happy experience. However, some women end up being victims of “acquaintance rape” or sexual assault by the person the victim is dating.

Date rape is more common than most people think.

A United Nations (UN)-affiliated organization said the UN Crime Trends Survey defined rape as sexual intercourse without a valid consent.

The “International Statistics on Crime and Justice” of the European Institute for Crime Prevention and Control (HEUNI) said Southern Africa, Oceania and North America have the highest recorded rape rates, while Asia has the lowest.

Young women at highest risk

An Australian government site said: “Date rape can happen to women of all ages but young women between 15 and 24 are at highest risk.”

"While it’s mostly women who are raped, guys can be victims of date rape too. And, as with female victims, guys are usually assaulted by other men," the New South Wales Attorney-General's Department Crime Prevention Division in Australia said.

Attackers "might use physical and verbal threats, emotional blackmail, or alcohol and drugs” to force their victims into having sex, it said.

It added that the woman may have initially agreed to have sex but decided to stop for some reason. If her partner forces her to continue the sexual act, that is also considered rape.

The website cited the story of Azeeza who was at a party with friends. Although she only had a couple of drinks, she could not remember what happened that night. She woke up to find herself in the bed of someone who was at the party. Afraid that she was raped, she went to the hospital. Tests showed that she had sex. She knew she was drugged because she had no idea what happened to her.

Drugs and sexual assault

A US government site – womenshealth.gov – said drugs are "sometimes used to assist a sexual assault."

"Sexual assault is any type of sexual activity that a person does not agree to. It can include touching that is not okay; putting something into the vagina; sexual intercourse; rape; and attempted rape,” it said.

“The drugs often have no color, smell, or taste, so you can't tell if you are being drugged. The drugs can make you become weak and confused — or even pass out — so that you are unable to refuse sex or defend yourself,” it added.

The site recommended some actions women can take to prevent themselves from becoming victims of date rape:

•Do not accept drinks from other people.
•Open beverage containers yourself.
•Keep your drink with you wherever you go, even to the bathroom.
•Do not share drinks with other people.
•Do not drink from punch bowls or other open containers as these may contain drugs.
•If someone offers to get you a drink, watch it being poured.
•Don't drink anything that tastes or smells strange.
•Ask a nondrinking friend to accompany you.
•If you realize that you have left your drink unattended, do not drink it anymore and pour it out.
•If you feel like the effects of drinking alcohol are stronger than usual, seek help right away.

Self-defense

The US self-help site Women's Self-Defense Instruction Online suggested some self defense tips "to reduce the likelihood of date rape."

•When dating someone for the first time, meet during the day and in a public place.
•Do not depend on your date for transportation. When a woman rides someone else's car, she can easily be taken to a secluded place.
•Do not take drugs or alcohol. If you do drink, know your limit.
•Stay away from men who seem to have violent tendencies or won’t take no for an answer.
Date rape statistics

The National Center for Victims of Crime (NCVC), a nonprofit organization in the United States that advocates victims' rights, cited the following US statistics:
•77 percent of rapes are committed by “non-strangers” or people whom the victims know;
•a woman is four times more likely to be raped by someone she knows than by a stranger;
•date rape is rarely reported to the police;
•Each year, one in eight women in college is raped, and
•in 85 percent of the attacks against women, the victims knew their attackers.

In Europe, a report of the news site The Guardian said:

•9,008 cases of rapes were reported in Britain from 2001 to 2002, compared to only 4,025 from 1991 to 1992;
•In 2002, the British Crime Survey estimated that some 61,000 rapes were carried out every year;
•about 167 rapes are taking place every day in Britain;
•one in 20 women has been a victim of rape, and
•one in 13 rape cases ends in a conviction.

Dating is a way for a woman to get to know someone and perhaps develop a special relationship with that person.

However, some people may take advantage of the "date" to abuse a woman. It is up to women then to choose carefully whom they go out with and to take extra precautions when they go out on dates. - RJMD/HS, GMA
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/247705/pinoyabroad/violence-against-women-how-to-prevent-date-rape?ref=latest
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:27 pm
@firefly,
Did she even once say "no"?...this is doubtful. It is high time the we reverted to rape being forcing the sex act over objection instead of as it is today sex that was not preceeded by the state's demanded level of consent by one that the state allows consent from.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:29 pm
Quote:

Rapes and Robberies on the Rise in Lower Manhattan
September 19, 2011

LOWER MANHATTAN — Rapes, robberies and auto thefts are all on the rise this year in lower Manhattan's 1st Precinct, NYPD figures show.

The biggest spike is in the number of rapes: there have been seven reported so far this year, compared to two in the same period last year and just one in the same period in 2009, according to NYPD numbers released this month.

"That is significant," said Anthony Notaro, president of the 1st Precinct Community Council, when told of the increase. "I am concerned about it."

Deputy Inspector Edward Winski, commanding officer of the 1st Precinct, said that in most of this year's sexual assault cases, the attacker knew the victim.

"For the most part, it's acquaintance [rape]," Winski said.

Winski said the NYPD did not see a pattern in the attacks.

The new NYPD statistics continue a trend DNAinfo found in its Crime & Safety Report, which revealed that the number of rapes reported in lower Manhattan doubled between 2009 and 2010.
http://www.dnainfo.com/20110919/downtown/rapes-robberies-on-rise-lower-manhattan#ixzz1mC40hIwu
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:40 pm
Quote:
January 26, 2012
Revision of rape definition more inclusive
By BETTY RIDGE
Special Writer The Tahlequah Daily Press
Jan 26, 2012,

TAHLEQUAH — For years, most state criminal statutes defining rape have made the requirements for proving the crime very specific.

But they have disqualified a large variety of sexual offenses from being prosecuted as rape cases.

Staff members at Help-in-Crisis who deal regularly with rape and sexual assault victims hail new revisions to the Uniform Crime Report definition of rape recently issued by U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. Holder said the revisions should lead to a more comprehensive statistical reporting of rape nationwide.

He said the new definition is more inclusive, better reflects state criminal codes and focuses on the various forms of sexual assault understood to be rape.

The new rape definition is: “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” The revised definition was recommended by the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Criminal Justice Information Services Advisory Policy Board.

Rape traditionally has been regarded as forcible male-on-female traditional sexual intercourse. That definition excludes these types of situations:

• A man having unwanted sexual activity with another male.

• A person of either sex sexually violating a child.

• An elderly person in a nursing home is sexually assaulted, but is unable to communicate that the incident has occurred.

• A woman who engaged in sexual activity, but was unable to consent because she was mentally incapacitated temporarily or permanently, was under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or because of age.

The traditional definition of rape, first established in 1927, was “the carnal knowledge of a female, forcibly and against her will.”

Victims of sexual assault suffer not only during the crime itself, but during the investigation, court procedures, and through the enduring effects it has on them and on their families. Many rapes are never reported because the victim cannot endure the humiliation of the investigation, testimony and aftermath.

One goal of Help-In-Crisis is to make the process less traumatic for the victims, and help them heal.

“With the original definition, the number I’ve talked to that have reported a rape is perhaps 30 percent,” said Sandra Dearborn, HIC sexual assault services coordinator. “With the newer definition, it’s going to be much higher, because it’s more inclusive.”

Deana Franke, HIC executive director, said the revised definition will make it easier to report and prosecute same-sex crimes.

“Several years ago, the FBI said the most devastating crime in America is rape or sexual assault, not murder,” Dearborn said.

That’s because of the lasting effects of sexual abuse on the victim. Dearborn said one in three women are victims of some sort of sexual assault during their lifetime. One in six boys are victimized by age 18.

These victims are more likely to develop drug or alcohol abuse problems, and are also likely to have problems in relationships as adults.

“So many mental and health care issues in our state come from victims of domestic violence and sexual assault,” Dearborn said. “They have more chronic health issues than any other people. To me, that is a tragedy.”

When a rape is reported, Dearborn or another sexual assault advocate meets the victim at the hospital. There, one of 11 specially-trained sexual assault nurse examiners (SANE) will administer the proper tests needed to prosecute the case.

The victim can choose to remain anonymous and not report the crime at the time it occurs. Victims have 90 days to decide, and evidence will be kept in police custody for that time, numbered anonymously so the name is not known to officers. Victims can choose to file an official police report at any time during that 90-day period.

Advocates help sexual assault victims obtain counseling and support them during any court procedures that occur.

In child sexual assault cases, victims in Cherokee, Wagoner and Sequoyah counties are taken to special child advocacy centers, where trained personnel discover what has happened in a manner least painful to the young child. Adair County does not yet have such a center.

Dearborn would like to see society change its attitude toward rape victims. Years ago, people tended to feel that if a woman was raped, she had done something to deserve it. They said she shouldn’t have been drinking in a bar, walking through a dark parking lot, worn a short skirt or gone out with a man she didn’t know well.

But anyone can become a victim of sexual assault through no fault of their own, Dearborn said. The 9-day-old child is as vulnerable as a 90-year-old woman. An attractive young woman who is sexually active can be a rape victim if, in this particular incident, she doesn’t want the sexual activity.

“Just because a victim is willing to go along with it, for fear of further damage, does not mean they give consent,” Dearborn said. “A lot of times women will say ‘No!’ if they can get the word out, but they’re ignored. If they don’t verbalize their ‘no,’ many times, others think they go along with it.”

In recent years, more people have become aware of other dimensions of sexual abuse — adult males abusing young men they have some type of mentor or control relationship with, female teachers or other older women having sexual relationships with teen boys. Incidents of men coming forward years later and revealing they had been sexually abused by priests or other ministers, and the recent case at Pennsylvania State University, have added to the awareness.

“In 2011, we had one male victim come forward for a sexual assault exam that was completed, and one who came forward but did not complete,” Dearborn said. “The percentage is minuscule. If it’s hard for women to come and talk about it, it’s even harder for a man. I think we’ve seen an increase in awareness because of Penn State.

“The new definition is more inclusive of gender victimization. It’s not just a woman’s issue,” she said.

She pointed out that when a woman is victimized, it has an impact on the men in her life.

Just as the concept of who is a victim has changed over the years, so has the concept of who can be an offender. The rapist isn’t just the stranger lurking in a dark alley.

“I can be the account executive. It can be a coach. It can be a trusted doctor,” Dearborn said.

There are a number of trained counselors available to work with victims and their families in this area. Some congregations are getting more involved. Dearborn thinks this is a good thing, as long as they do not judge the victim.

“Our faith community needs to recognize people are sitting in their churches with these wounds and afraid to say anything,” she said. “People can get well physically and emotionally and never get well spiritually.”

She urges anyone who has been victimized to reach out and talk to the appropriate people.

“This is a noteworthy job because of the pain so many people suffer,” she said of her role. “We get to aid in the healing.”
http://tahlequahdailypress.com/features/x1669703996/Revision-of-rape-definition-more-inclusive
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:48 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Dearborn would like to see society change its attitude toward rape victims. Years ago, people tended to feel that if a woman was raped, she had done something to deserve it. They said she shouldn’t have been drinking in a bar, walking through a dark parking lot, worn a short skirt or gone out with a man she didn’t know well.


Research shows that people, especially women, still tend to think that the woman did something to contribute to the sad event when they hear details of what she did that night...or did not do (say "no" for instance).
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:55 pm
@firefly,
Strange when rape and other violence crimes decrease we never get the good news from you only if such events increase somewhere do we hear about the matter.

Why is that Firefly?

Until just now when you and people of like mind just got to rig the eighty years old FBI data base on rape, we were at a thirty-three low repeat a thirty-three low on reported rapes but no one hear a word of that good news from you.
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