Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@firefly,

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This man wasn't charged with rape. And his name wasn't dragged through the mud.

He was not charge by the DA with rape but his name was surely dragged through the damn mud and when he died even if fifth years from now the notice in the papers will indeed include very near the top that he was once charge by a woman with being a rapist.

The fact he was not charge by the government in this case is surely not the fault of his false accuser.

This is like being charge with no other crime for a man and is as bad in my opinion emotionally for a man as rape is for a woman.

A woman willing to do this amount of harm to any innocent man for such reasons as not wishing to be honest with her boyfriend should be facing punishments of the same order as a male rapist.

But once more Miss Maria Di Toro is not even going to get a damn slap on the wrist of being charge with a misdemeanor in this case.

Hopefully she will not go on as in the case of the false accuser in the Duke case. who also was not even given a slap on the wrist, to murdering her current boyfriend or some future one as it take a very sick and evil woman to do what Miss Di Torro had done.

Footnote her claims that it was not consensus is a clear lied even in her own mind as her textings to him after the event show.

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@BillRM,

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Prosecutors, who must possess mind-reading powers to glean what’s going on in Di Toro’s head, have declined to charge her with filing a false criminal report because they think she believes she’s telling the truth.
It’s not good enough.
It’s time to protect true victims of sexual assault by ripping off the veil that only encourages gals to make untrue claims. Who will believe a real victim now?
Di Toro is, at best, a confused soul who irrevocably harmed a man’s reputation by thinking only of herself. At worst, she lied when she didn’t get her way.
If she really believes she was attacked, then Di Toro has nothing to be ashamed of. If she made up the story, then protecting her only serves to tell women that this kind of demented behavior is OK.
The DA must take a stand against false claims leveled against men, the same way he would uphold the right of any other minority to not be harassed and scorned because of physical appearance.
Di Toro must face the music.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/let_put_the_girl_who_cried_wolf_XQdjdZkM0mtcYWe8fV8PhL#ixzz1lryohY00

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@hawkeye10,

Hawkeye I had taken note in the UK such women as Di Toro do end up facing fairly harsh punishments up to a few years behind bars.

The thinking by the judges statements at sentencings is that not only are such false charges harmful to the men and a waste of resources for the police but is also extremely harmful to future real rape victims in getting fair hearings.

Of course Firefly does not wish to admitted that women do indeed lied over this subject for such reason as covering their cheating rear ends with boyfriends and husbands for example.

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@BillRM,

Sorry, the D.A. did not feel she had lied. That was quite clear.

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And because she truly believes she was attacked, prosecutors are not charging her with making a false rape allegation, DA sources have said.

The sources also said her story to investigators “was consistent.”

Nor was his name dragged through the mud. Who are you kidding? As long as he wasn't charged, nobody really cares. He'll be back at his job with Fox, reputation intact.
She was the one trashed in the tabloids, solely on the basis of carefully planted anonymous leaks, and both she and her boyfriend were clearly identifiable, from all the details given about both of them, before the investigation was even finished.

This woman and her boyfriend have every reason to go public with their side of the story--which no one has really heard yet. Their identities are already known, and if they feel they have been unfairly and inaccurately represented in the tabloids, and they want to set the record straight, they may well go public.
And, I think, there would be considerable interest in hearing their version of events. Those "leaks" in the Post and Daily News should hardly be regarded as gospel. I don't buy that she made this up to cover-up a one night stand. I'd like to hear directly from her what happened, and why she waited 3 months to report it. If she's gutsy enough, she might come forward.

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@firefly,

No he does not wish to take the heat from the likes of you in going after her.

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I'd like to hear directly from her what happened, and why she waited 3 months to report it. If she's gutsy enough, she might come forward.

I question if she will do so as that might just be the trigger that will cause Mr. Kelly to spend the funds to sue her and get a judgment on her earnings for the next two decades or so.

She is likely to disappeared under the same rock she crawl out of concerning this matter.

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@hawkeye10,

Right, the NY Post says that. The Post, owned by the same guy that employs Greg Kelly. Laughing

Not that they are carrying on a vendetta against this woman... Laughing

They worry about the "true victims of sexual assault" after they've trashed this woman? What they've done is the sort of thing that keeps victims of sexual assault from coming forward.

They can't have it both ways. If they accept the D.A.'s finding that Kelly is innocent, they also have to accept the D.A.'s finding that they did not feel she lied.

Tabloid crap.

I hope she tells her side of the story. That's probably what the Post is afraid she'll do. That's why they're turning up the heat. It won't work. She may well talk. The more they go after her, the more incentive they give her to speak out.

And, if she had the guts to lodge a complaint against the Police Commisioner's son, she may well have the guts to go public with her story.

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@firefly,

Yes it surely help real victims of sexual assaults to have women filing false charges and cause them to come forward knowing that their claims will be look upon with the past history of false charges in mind.

That is one of the reasons that the UK legal system give for coming down so hard on women who file such false charges.

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@BillRM,

Only you are saying she lied. Even the NY Post isn't saying that.

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@firefly,

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And because she truly believes she was attacked, prosecutors are not charging her with making a false rape allegation, DA sources have said.

Giving women a free pass for their abuse of men based upon the fantasies that they have rolling around said head about the evilness of men is not a good road to go down. This is something that most certainly should not be encouraged.

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@hawkeye10,

Well, now that women know Greg Kelly doesn't bother practicing safe sex, his appeal to them might decline. He might not be evil, but he sure could pick up and pass on a number of very unpleasant STDs. That's something that shouldn't be encouraged either.

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@firefly,

Of course she is lying as it become lord I can not wait to be with you once more to I was rape when she found out she was pregnant and her boyfriend found out that she had been cheating.

Some rape when you take a guy to your work place after hours and had sex with him in your boss office!!!!!!!!

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@firefly,

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Well, now that women know Greg Kelly doesn't bother practicing safe sex

Strange in my whole sexual history I do not off hand remember any woman partner being all that concern about safe sex or STDs.

Of course my younger and wilder days was before HIV was in the population but then still now even high risk groups such as gay men do not now practice safe sex to anywhere near the degree that would seem wise for them to do so.

I remember having conversations with sexual partners about birth control methods with me first bringing up the subject as often as they did.

The more you post Firefly the more I am sure you have never had anything approaching a normal sex life.

One thing I am sure is that at least in the New York city area Di Toro is going to have a harder time finding sexual partners willing to help her cheat on her boyfriend.

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@BillRM,

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Strange in my whole sexual history I do not off hand remember any woman partner being all that concern about safe sex or STDs.

Then you've definitely never had a normal sex life. No wonder you're so reliant on pornography.

HIV has been around for 30 years, and there is Hepatitis, Genital Herpes, Syphyilis, Chlamydia, and lots of other nasty things you can contract.

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still now even high risk groups such as gay men do not now practice safe sex...

You think gay men are really the only high risk group? Do you live in a cave?

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The dramatic rise of STDs among senior citizens
Older adults are reportedly having a whole lot of sex — but they're also plagued by skyrocketing rates of syphyilis and chlamydia
February 6, 2012

The good news: Adults between the ages of 50 and 90 are having more sex than ever before, according to a new British study. The bad news? There has been a corresponding rise in HIV, syphilis, chlamydia, and other STDs among these older adults. Here's what you should know about the "dramatic" uptick:

How much more sex are older people having?
Adults 50 and older are having more sex than ever before, according to the Student British Medical Journal. In the U.K., a whopping 80 percent of people in this age range report being sexually active.

What changed?
A couple of things. "Drugs that correct erectile dysfunction in aging men have made sex a reality for many more adults," says Caitlin Bronson at Third Age. Online dating also plays a role. Adults 50 and over are the "fastest-growing" demographic for online dating, notes Britain's Daily Mail, allowing older divorcées or those who have lost their spouses to connect with other singles.

And the STD rates for older adults have gone up?
Indeed. Twenty percent of the United Kingdom's HIV cases are in patients age 50 and up, up from 11 percent in 2001. There's been a similar uptick in STDs in the U.S. According to the CDC, roughly 2,550 cases of syphilis among adults ages 45 to 65 were reported in 2010, up from 900 a decade earlier. And cases of chlamydia among that group of Americans jumped to 19,600 in 2010, compared to 6,700 in 2000.

Why is this?
Unsafe sex. Some older women who can no longer get pregnant may believe contraceptives are unnecessary, notes the Daily Mail, and older men feel may feel that using a condom contributes to erectile disfunction. "You never have to retire from sex," clinical psychologist Judy Kuransky tells CNN. "But you should always behave as the 20- to 30-year-olds do. You need to be cautious."
http://theweek.com/article/index/224100/the-dramatic-rise-of-stds-among-senior-citizens

And simply having multiple sex partners increases the risk of contracting and passing on STD's. And HIV can be passed on before the person is even aware that they've been infected. Among my family, friends, acquaintances, I know of absolutely no one who does not use a condom, or insist that a condom be used, in casual dating situations.

So, for someone like Greg Kelly, a single 40 year old high profile man, who probably leads an active sex life, to not use a condom, particularly when with a woman he does not know well, is very surprising. Apart from his not being very self-protective disease-wise, this woman also claims he impregnated her. Is he looking to be hit with paternity suits? So, if he does this no-condom thing regularly, who knows what he's picking up and passing along in the way of STD's? Believe me, that fact will register with women who might want to date him.

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@firefly,

Hiv as any real threat to straight couples had not exist for thirty years and to this day is primary still found in the high risk groups.

Second my sex life seem to had fallen somewhere in the middle of the bell curve and your comment otherwise is amusing given the impression of at the best of an asexual woman that fear men as a class that your postings had given.

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@BillRM,

God, your stupidity is staggering.

And your social life must be confined to your cats. You obviously have no contacts with anyone in the real world who is involved with dating and sexual activity.

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New York Post Outs Greg Kelly's Accuser With Front-Page Photo
By Keyana Stevens
Feb. 9 2012

Even though Greg Kelly, now exonerated by a criminal investigation, will not be charged with rape after all, the New York Post isn't ready to let his story rest in peace. Not happy with merely naming Kelly's accuser in a report yesterday, the Post apparently felt that emblazoning the cover of its Thursday print edition with the woman's face was entirely appropriate. The ensemble includes a punny headline more appropriate for a jokey human interest piece than the aftermath of a criminal investigation, made complete by the use of scare quotes around the word "rape."

A full front page photo. We aren't going to link to it because it's -- well, quite frankly, it's shameful. Women who file rape accusations already have an uphill battle to fight when it comes to getting a conviction. This is particularly true when those they accuse are public figures or have family members in positions of power. Because sexual assault investigations are deeply entwined with public ideas of propriety and sexuality, it was, once upon a time, considered common courtesy not to publicly name women who had the bravery to come forth and file a report. That way, if their accusations couldn't be proved, they wouldn't have to deal with the dual shame of being raped and then publicly harassed. No more, apparently.

In this case, almost as soon as news broke that Kelly had been accused, various tabloid papers began reporting details that fueled rampant speculation about the validity of the woman's claims. Kelly's lawyers pointed to "steamy text messages" as evidence that the encounter had been consensual, while commenters insisted that the woman only reported the crime three months after the fact because her boyfriend found out about her infidelity and subsequent abortion.

When the District Attorney's office announced the conclusion of the investigation, they said only that there was "insufficient evidence" that Kelly had committed a crime, and also declined to charge the woman for making a false report. Throughout the ordeal, she never wavered from her version of the story, maintaining that under New York law she had been too drunk to consent to sex.

But the Post isn't happy with that, and apparently thinks the only way to redeem the reputation of "the unmarried, popular host of Fox's Good Day New York" (their words, not ours) is to publicly invade the life of a woman who felt she had been wronged. Excellent job, Post. To hell with journalistic propriety and decency! Who needs 'em anyway?
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/new_york_post_cover.php

The NY Post, never regarded as anything more than a rag sheet has sunk to new lows with their obviously biased coverage of this case and their continued harrassment of this woman.

The response to this sort of slime/smear journalism appears to be, "Yuck".

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Greg Kelly Rape Accuser Covers New York Post
By Joe Coscarelli

It has already been decided that Greg Kelly, the Fox 5 morning anchor and son of NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly, will not be charged with rape, but the New York Post isn't done with the story yet. All along, the tabloid's focus has been on Kelly's accuser, a woman in her late twenties who said she became pregnant and had an abortion after a drunken encounter with Kelly at the office of the law firm where she works. After being named by the paper yesterday, she makes the front cover today, along with the headline, "SHADY LADY: 'Rape' beauty could not remember sex with Kelly." Yuck.

The Post has adamantly chosen sides, referring to Kelly as "popular" and teasing his "joyful return" to hosting Good Day New York. The woman, on the other hand, continues to be undermined by anonymous sources and snide descriptions.

The paper does report that her story to the district attorney "was consistent," but notes accusingly that she will not be charged with making a false allegation because she "convinced investigators she genuinely believed Kelly took advantage of her — despite her failure to remember what happened." The article begins in the Post's typically callous tone, "She insisted she was raped — she just couldn't remember actually having sex." An unnamed source adds, "Not remembering is not tantamount to being raped." The paper adds doubt by noting "the very low bar bill the two rang up" at their date prior to the alleged sexual encounter.

Last year, during the rape trial of two NYPD officers, the New York Times reported, "In a society that can be quick to turn a skeptical eye toward women who say they were raped — she was scantily dressed, she’s promiscuous, she’s just angry at him — prosecutors of sex crimes say one of their biggest obstacles in the courtroom is alcohol." The woman in question this time has no jury to convince, and the Post has already made up their mind. This time at least, unlike yesterday, their bias comes with a disclosure: "[Kelly's employer] Fox 5 and The Post are both owned by News Corp."
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/02/greg-kelly-rape-accuser-covers-new-york-post.html

I really continue to hope that this woman will go public with her story. She deserves a forum to clear her name and reputation after all the smear tactics leveled at her by the tabloids.

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@firefly,

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The NY Post, never regarded as anything more than a rag sheet has sunk to new lows with their obviously biased coverage of this case and their continued harrassment of this woman.

It is about time that women lost the ability to make stealth legal attacks on men..... I am a vigorous supporter of outing the identity of the accuser so that we may have some basis to compare the integrity of the accused with that of the accuser. If I had more faith than I do that the "justice' system would deliver justice I would be less inclined to call for full disclosure, but only slightly so.

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I really continue to hope that this woman will go public with her story. She deserves a forum to clear her name and reputation after all the smear tactics leveled at her by the tabloids.

If she so chooses then fine....and then I will hope to hear from the accused, as one side of the story is useless without the other side. Let's have full disclosure and transparency in our Justice system for Christ's sake!

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@firefly,

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You obviously have no contacts with anyone in the real world who is involved with dating and sexual activity.

And the comment is coming from a asexual and man hating and fearing virgin.

The real world does not play by the safe sex rules for the most part that why we still have HIV as it is one hell of a hard disease to catch compare to the others.

Oh my information on STDs come from the CDC god know where you get yours.

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@hawkeye10,

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If she so chooses then fine....and then I will hope to hear from the accused, as one side of the story is useless without the other side. Let's have full disclosure and transparency in our Justice system for Christ's sake!

You must be out of your mind if you think he'd want to talk about it. The less he says, the better for him, as his lawyer has doubtless told him. He wants this forgotten.
This no longer has anything to do with the justice system, the investigation ended, there were no charges.

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@BillRM,

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And the comment is coming from a asexual and man hating and fearing virgin.

You can't even muster up decent fantasies about a female. Laughing

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The real world does not play by the safe sex rules for the most part...

As I said, you seem to have no social contacts in the real world. Intelligent adults certainly do practice safe sex. Not that you'd know any intelligent people.
Your frame of reference is pornography, not real life.

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