Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@firefly,

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That's enough of a point.

Dropping the ball in the 2008 case, allowed this man to remain free to rape again, which is what he apparently did--this time the rape of an 11 year old.

Yes and as long as the criminal justice system is run by humans things like that will happen in fact it could had been a murderer say a former football hero that not only got away with murdering two people he then went on to endanger a room full of other people lives by having them hold at gunpoint.

Or a woman who got away with murdering one husband and therefore was able to murder a second husband and of course there had been reverse cases.

So your point seem meaningless unless your point is in fact any man charge with such a crime as rape should be found guilty no matter what the evidence happen to be in order to short stop him from perhaps raping another woman.

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@firefly,

Of course Hawkeye is paranoid for believing that a woman is just a likely to be evil as a man.

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@BillRM,

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Of course Hawkeye is paranoid for believing that a woman is just a likely to be evil as a man.

Anyone who objects to the assertions that women are wonderful and men suck is abusive to women according to this crowd. Women have gotten conditioned to men telling them what ever they want to hear, when some man demands to talk truth they dont know what to do other than to cry "abuse!"

Equality is so 1970's, the man hating bitches of today have no interest.

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@BillRM,

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Yes and as long as the criminal justice system is run by humans things like that will happen

How much do you want us to pay to try to prove that a drunk young woman who claims she was raped had sex with the guy she claims raped her? Times are tough all over and there never was even before the Great Recession and the days of fantasticly irresponsible Federal spending enough dollars to spend going after men according to this crowd.

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You two embittered misogynists deserve each other's company.

Water seeks it's own level--and, in this case, it's a cesspool. Laughing

Adios.

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@hawkeye10,

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How much do you want us to pay to try to prove that a drunk young woman who claims she was raped had sex with the guy she claims raped her? Times are tough all over and there never was even before the Great Recession and the days of fantasticly irresponsible Federal spending enough dollars to spend going after men according to this crowd.

Hawkeye all justice system criminal priorities and resources should go into cases of claims sexual assaults.

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@firefly,

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You two embittered misogynists deserve each other's company.

Water seeks it's own level--and, in this case, it's a cesspool

Well Hawkeye and I are in marriages how about you Firefly? Laughing

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@BillRM,

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Well Hawkeye and I are in marriages how about you Firefly

25 years and counting, so I have not tested the market in a long while, but I dont have any trouble cruising for women for sex and playtimes. I dont do as well as DSK does though from the sounds of it, and he is a good deal older....he has earned a back slap if I ever should meet him.

But of course anyone who objects to Female control of men or female entitlement is a misogynist...all anyone needs to do to earn that title is to tell a woman "no". I wear the moniker with pride, as the only alternative is to be pussy-whipped.

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@hawkeye10,

Well we have you and a happily pussy whipped me.

So we have both sides cover in just two marriages.

As far as other women are concern my wife did tell me that if she should happen to pass on before me I should then feel free to enjoy the Cancun time shares she had just purchased with other women.

Now I am sure that Firefly will in fairness share her relationships with us in turn so we can get a better 3D view of the total charming woman she happen to be. Drunk

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@firefly,

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I was subjected to sustained mob action long before this thread started for daring to speak up for men

Well you are certainly not speaking up for men now. You don't want serious male on male forcible sexual assaults--including those involving forced anal penetration with objects--included in the federal definition of rape. You don't have the slightest interest in male victims of serious sexual assault, or in seeing adequate funding going to help this group of victims.

You are a phony, and admitted deviant, who is only concerned with his own sexual needs and desires and impulses--and you fear these may conflict with existing laws. Your alleged "concern" begins and ends with yourself.

A true notion of sexual freedom, unlike the self-serving crap you regurgitate, includes the right not to be sexually assaulted by others--which is why we have laws to punish those who commit such assaults and to deter such assaults. And you can talk from now until doomsday, and we will continue to have such laws against sexual assaults.

Don't wrap yourself in the mantle of a martyr--that's a joke--people split from this thread because they found you repetitive and boring. The only one paying attention to you is your fawning buddy, BillRM, and even he doesn't seem to be reading your posts very carefully.

Basically, you're talking only to yourself....

It is, indeed, laughable that Hawkeye "thinks" he is speaking up for men. He truly does not understand what a "man" is. Otherwise, he would understand that most men do not condone or accept rape as normal behavior. Only those who are weak and not attractive to women feel the need to rape.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

BillRM wrote:

Of course Hawkeye is paranoid for believing that a woman is just a likely to be evil as a man.

Anyone who objects to the assertions that women are wonderful and men suck is abusive to women according to this crowd. Women have gotten conditioned to men telling them what ever they want to hear, when some man demands to talk truth they dont know what to do other than to cry "abuse!"

Equality is so 1970's, the man hating bitches of today have no interest.

Did you actually read what you wrote? Women are man hating because they refuse to be raped? Stupidity seems to know no bounds. Or, at least stupid remarks. Shocked

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@Intrepid,

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Only those who are weak and not attractive to women feel the need to rape.

I have no doubt but that you likewise feel that the only women who want to be ravished or taken in hand by their man are the mentally ill ones. You must be a very boring ****.

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@hawkeye10,

Hawkeye maybe if we are all lucky the "man" will leave once more for facebook.

Oh shame on you and your wife for being into SM as that turn you into a rapist in some way or in some manner and your wife into a poor victim.

Not my cup of tea or my wife cup of tea however I find it strange how some people wish to govern and control others consenting adults sexual behaviors under the color of law.

Facebook gain is our lost in any case.

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@BillRM,

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Hawkeye maybe if we are all lucky the "man" will leave once more for facebook.

Lucky?? If he had something to offer to the discussion he would have said something relevant a long time ago. In his whole life I seriously doubt that Intrepid has ever had anything to say to a woman other than "what ever you want, dear"..... I have an inkling that the woman he considers his is in fact bored to tears with him, and is thus getting her rocks off by stepping out with some other guy who knows how to get her motor running. Intrepid is like IdiotBill a non entity in this debate, he has shown up with no knowledge of the subject matter, no interest in the truth, an without enough class to shut his mouth and listen to people who are smarter and better informed than he is.

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@hawkeye10,

Hawkeye anyone who see themselves in the role of the sex/moral police when it come to others consenting adults sexual behaviors must envy them in secret.

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@BillRM,

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Hawkeye anyone who see themselves in the role of the sex/moral police when it come to others consenting adults must envy them in secret.

It generally means that they are not getting any of the good stuff, and that they are peevish enough to want to make sure that no one else does either. **** that, I like good sex...a lot....I am not going to let that go simply because some beta males cant do what I do and feel the need to respond by throwing temper tantrums.

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@hawkeye10,

Oh let briefly touch on the author of this thread clear double standards once more now that this thread is being posted to again.

By her and all right thinking PC people position, a woman can not shared in the blame for her own rape no matter what level of bad judgment she had employed in placing herself in harm way that ended up allowing her to be attack/rape. IE she can not ask to get raped

However if a man placed himself in harm way by having fast sex with a maid in a hotel room then the author of this never ending thread had stated that if he was as a result charged with rape falsely it is still his own fault for being so reckless in his behaviors. So a man can however can ask to get falsely charge with raping.

Sorry it just too must fun to keep from once more pointing out how she tend to talk out of both sides of her mouth.

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@BillRM,

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a woman can not shared in the blame for her own rape no matter what level of bad judgment she had employed in placing herself in harm way that ended up allowing her to be attack/rape. IE she can not ask to get raped

And just what did that woman do to place herself in "harm's way"--allow herself to be in a situation where a man might sexually assault her? Must women always travel in groups and never be alone with men?

You do realize that you are the one implying that all men are potential rapists (something I do not agree with), because you are saying that any woman who was raped--whether that rape occurred on a deserted street, or on a bed in a frat house, or in a car on a date---should never have been in a position where she might be vulnerable to a man, or alone with a man, because she should have expected to be raped because men cannot be trusted to control their sexual impulses.

So, a pedestrian on the street is responsible for her own injuries if a drunken driver hits her, since she was walking on a street where intoxicated people might drive?

Your attempts to blame victims of sexual assaults for the actions of the person who sexually assaults them are ludicrous and illogical.

Your main value in this thread has been to illustrate the pernicious effects of victim-blaming, and the misogynistic attitudes of those who engage in such blame--your posts demonstrate why we needed to have this thread, lest anyone think the problem of rape apologists is not real. You have served that purpose well.

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Hawkeye anyone who see themselves in the role of the sex/moral police when it come to others consenting adults sexual behaviors must envy them in secret.

You are, indeed, quite stupid, if you haven't realized by now that sexual assaults refer to non-consenting sexual behaviors. You aren't even aware of the topic under discussion. Consuming too much joy juice again ? Drunk

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@firefly,

Funny as I never had disagree once on this thread or any thread that no one had a right to rape anyone no matter how bad of a judgment the victim had exercised before hand.

However you on the other hand had stated that if a man had placed himself in a high risk position to be falsely charge with rape he somehow deserve the headaches of being so charge.

That is a double standard my silly friend on it face.

Footnote all the above does not change the fact that any women who placed herself of her own free will in a state of drunkenness for example at a Frat party is using insane levels of bad judgments and made it very hard to unravel the how and why of any sexual contact she might had have at that party after the fact.

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@firefly,

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sexual assaults refer to non-consenting sexual behaviors

An deciding when a woman can or can not grant consent due to her placing herself voluntarily under the influence of drugs and or alcohol and in cases where no force of threat of force had been used is the problem and she is in a state of consciousness not unconsciousness.

Adding to that problem is if both partners are both young and under roughly the same level of intoxication.

Placing the man in prison as a rapist when two drunks have sex due to woman regretting it the next day seem insane on it face.

If any question of consent or non-consent existing because of the above type of situation the issue should be decided in favor of the accuse.

But I will however be willing to consider changing my mind when the first case of a woman being charge with sexual assault of a man for having sex with a drunken man is brought into a court room.

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