Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

b]So, I ask you, what do you think men can do, or should be doing, to help counter the negative social stigma, and rape apologist attitudes, that do affect the victims of rape, particularly non stranger rape? I think male input into this problem is very important. I'm inclined to think men may be able to do more than women in affecting and changing public attitudes, including the attitudes of law enforcement and juries. When men really start speaking out, I think people will take the issue very seriously.

So, what should men be doing? How can they help combat the rape apologist attitudes and stigmas that are prevalent in the culture?

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May/June 1999 Issue
A surprising fact has turned up in the grimly familiar world of domestic violence: Women report using violence in their relationships more often than men. This is not a crack by some antifeminist cad; the information will soon be published by the Justice Department in a report summarizing the results of in-depth, face-to-face interviews with a representative sample of 860 men and women whom researchers have been following since birth. Conducted in New Zealand by Terrie Moffitt, a University of Wisconsin psychology professor, the study supports data published in 1980 indicating that wives hit their husbands at least as often as husbands hit their wives.
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When the 1980 study was released, it was so controversial that some of the researchers received death threats. Advocates for battered women were outraged because the data seemed to suggest that the risk of injury from domestic violence is as high for men as it is for women, which isn't true. Whether or not women are violent themselves, they are much more likely to be severely injured or killed by domestic violence, so activists dismissed the findings as meaningless.

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30 years later and we are still fighting to get scientific resources to study the problem, so that we can get at the truth....THIRTY ******* YEARS we have waited, and still women or at least groups claiming to speak for women fight the discovery process often with anger and denial and the belittling of men, and largely do so successfully.

It is an outrage. I am outraged.

That's 471,110 injured women compared to 47,000 injured men. 10 to 1 and this sick bastard is "outraged." My sincere hope is that Shorteyes is added to the male victim statistics.

Your cute posters should also deal with women need to used better judgment in who they drop their guard with and that they do have a duty not to drink with someone they do not have complete trust in to the point it cloudy their judgments

You are being a rape apologist.

Women take the majority of physical abuse, but it looks like they are equal players on the cycle of aggression. To get to the bottom of what has gone wrong women are going to have to own up to the part they play in domestic violence, they should never have been given a pass because they get the worst of the physical side.

If you cant defend your position how about at least admitting it, so that you can retain some dignity?

...strangled, half-naked corpse, covered in bruises, bite marks, and cuts, .... Her bra and shirt were pushed up to her neck, and her skirt was around her waist..... there were numerous bruises on her neck, both from the strangulation and from her own fingernails as she clawed at her killer's hands. e. The investigators had found Levin's panties some 50 yards (46 m) away

"Sex Play Got Rough"

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If you cant defend your position how about at least admitting it, so that you can retain some dignity?

My position, that rape is a crime which must be taken seriously by law enforcement,

Isn't it possible to find any meeting of the minds with you on this issue?

Right now the separation between the two sides seems too great to get to compromise.

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Isn't it possible to find any meeting of the minds with you on this issue?

I don't know, the main fault line is not between men and women,

Confronted with this explanation, the examining Assistant District Attorney Saracco said: "I've been in this business for a while, and you're the first man I've seen raped in Central Park." The rape scenario was considered to be highly unlikely, in light of the fact that Chambers was more than a foot taller than the 5'4" Levin, and at 220 lb (100 kg), he was almost double her weight.

I'm not comparing abuse and rape. I'm trying to get back to the topic of rape.

I don't know, the main fault line is not between men and women, it is between those who want to control the erotic lives and relationship structures of others and those like me who want to encourage people to have satisfying consensual relationships but generally feel that people have to be allowed to live their own lives no matter what our opinion is of the choices they make for themselves. I have no interest in trying to separate good sex from bad sex, I think that what ever a person wants or needs that they can get consensually is none of my business. If we see a woman getting slapped around by her man the correct response is not "OMG, you poor thing, we have to get him into a jail" ....it is " is this what you want? You don't have to stay here if you don't want to".

According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, which includes crimes that were not reported to the police, 232,960 women in the U.S. were raped or sexually assaulted in 2006. That's more than 600 women every day

When a woman says, "No", and trys to push the man away from her, and he ignores her and inserts his penis into her vagina, he is raping her.

Can you even understand that?

As far as I'm concerned - you can do whatever you want with another consenting adult. I don't know of any laws that limit what you and your consenting partner do in your own bedroom - as long as s/he's of age.