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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 05:28 pm
Let me put it to you both this way. Right now, the Anthony family is pretty much on the minds of everyone. An entire family totally destroyed at the death of a child that there seems to be no justice for.

Now, you tell me how important that man spending one night in jail a long time ago and then BEING VINDICATED by the JUSTICE system can even compare?

Personally, there comes a time I think when we all have to get over the thing that hurt us the most. I realize for some people that is very difficult due to the magnitude of the hurt. But, somehow, some way, we all have to go on. We have to pick ourselves up and dust ourselves off and live the life that we have.

So I'm sorry if you don't like that I think that guy needs to pull himself up by the bootstraps and do what he needs to do to live. If he needs counseling then he should get it. Whatever it takes to heal. No one is going to do it for him. But whining and complaining about it like you two are doing surely isn't going to help him. Have you thought about reaching out to him? I would imagine not. Again, you whine and complain and do nothing.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 07:32 pm
@Arella Mae,
Interesting viewpoint however I had never never hear of you expressing such an opinion when it come to women being sexual assaulted no matter how minor the assault happen to be.

No she should had woman up comment from you that I can remember.

And the Anthony situation just show how hard it seem to get justice when the person charge happen to be a good looking female.

If it had been a father instead with the facts being the same I question if he would not be looking at the death chamber instead of pay interviews and a book and a movie deal.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 07:45 pm
@BillRM,
Are you daft? I posted plenty of articles about women who had been raped and how hard it was for them to get through it. But I have always said that our recovery is ultimately up to us.

So you think Casey got off because she was a good looking woman? You are daft. But I am not surprised. This is why I don't like to talk to you. You say I say things that I don't say and you make the most ridiculous statements.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2011 08:00 pm
@Arella Mae,
Of course the fact that she is a good looking woman had aided her greatly and for example who was the last mother who had kill her children to received the death penal ?

It does not happen even when the mother had driven the damn car into a lake with her children belted into car seats.

Or the cases of women who have had sex with young boys getting slaps on the wrist when men who had done the same end up in prison for decades.

If it was a father instead of a mother with the same case he would not had walk in my opinion and that is based on how the justice system tend to treat men and women charges with the same or similar crimes.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2011 06:07 pm
CNN has a long and good piece on sex offender registries here:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/28/sex.offender.adam.walsh.act/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 18 Aug, 2011 08:02 am
The truth comes out:
Quote:
Lawsuit alleges Missouri school expelled girl for making rape claim
By the CNN Wire StaffAugust 18, 2011 3:41 a.m. EDT
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

(CNN) -- A lawsuit filed against a Missouri school district alleges that officials failed to protect a female student from repeated sexual assaults from a male student, and at one point expelled her for reporting the alleged attacks.

A rape examination proved that the girl was telling the truth, and the male student pleaded guilty to charges related to the attack, the suit alleges.

In a response filed in court, the Republic School District in Greene County, Mo., denied the allegations and called the lawsuit "frivolous."

The lawsuit, filed in July, alleges that the girl was a special education student at a Missouri middle school in the 2008-2009 school year when she told officials about harassment, sexual assaults and a rape by a male student.

School officials told her that her story was not credible, and told her mother that she had recanted the story, the suit alleges.

The suit alleges that school officials made the girl write an apology letter and deliver it to the boy -- without consulting with the girl's mother.

She was then expelled for the rest of the school year and reported to juvenile authorities for allegedly filing a false crime report.

She was allowed to come back to school the next year and her mother urged school officials to protect her from the male student. School officials denied the request, the suit alleges.

"During the 2009-2010 school year, (the girl) was terrified that she would be sexually harassed, assaulted , or raped again at school, and was unable to sleep many nights," the suit says.

Though she tried to avoid the boy, she was harassed again. She did not report this because she was scared that school officials would not believe her.

In February 2010, the same boy grabbed her, dragged her to the back of the school library and raped her again, the suit alleges.

"School officials approached (the girl's) claims with the same skepticism as the year before, even going so far as to state that they had 'already been through this,' " the suit states.

The girl's mother took her to a child advocacy center that confirmed that a sexual assault occurred and DNA evidence found in the girl matched the male student, the suit alleges.

The male student was "taken into custody in Juvenile Court and pleaded guilty to charges brought against him," the suit says.

The suit does not state the exact charges the male student allegedly pleaded guilty to.

Despite the results of the test, the girl was suspended from school for what the school called "disrespectful conduct" and "public display of affection," the suit claims.

School officials did not respond to CNN's attempts to get comments, but the school district released a statement on its website.

"It is important to remember that the allegations in a lawsuit are just that -- allegations. The district has filed an answer denying the allegations," part of the statement said. "The district cannot discuss confidential student matters and does not comment on pending litigation."

The lawsuit seeks punitive damages, but did not state a specific dollar amount being sought.


http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/18/missouri.school.rape.claim/index.html?hpt=ju_c2
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 18 Aug, 2011 05:56 pm
@Arella Mae,
What truth came out AM or do you consider claims in a lawsuit proven facts?

Second if she did falsely charge the boy with raped she should had been kick out of school at the very least.

Take note the boy plea guilty to what?

Sorry there is not enough information to come to any conclusion of any kind.

Of course any male charge with sexual assault by any female should just be lock up no investigation or proof needed.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 18 Aug, 2011 06:14 pm
@BillRM,
Guess you missed this:
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A rape examination proved that the girl was telling the truth, and the male student pleaded guilty to charges related to the attack, the suit alleges.

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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 18 Aug, 2011 06:15 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

What truth came out AM or do you consider claims in a lawsuit proven facts?

Second if she did falsely charge the boy with raped she should had been kick out of school at the very least.

Take note the boy plea guilty to what?

Sorry there is not enough information to come to any conclusion of any kind.

Of course any male charge with sexual assault by any female should just be lock up no investigation or proof needed.


Forget it Bill, like I said before take your straw man argument and stuff it!
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 18 Aug, 2011 06:31 pm
@Arella Mae,
Sorry dear but her claims was look into and found not to be creditable so I guess that should not matter and the boy should still had been charge and nothing done to the girl when the school was of the opinion that she was bearing false witness.

Now one thing was this first investigation done by school police train to do such investigation or by untrained non-law enforcement personal?

There is far to must unknown facts to get all outrage over this story.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 18 Aug, 2011 06:35 pm
@BillRM,
Again, you don't hold a conversation. You have monologues so please talk to yourself. I don't care about a single thing you say. That is just the plain fact of the matter. You have no credibility as far as I am concerned.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 18 Aug, 2011 06:52 pm
@Arella Mae,
Well it seems kind of pointless to be on a discussion board if you do not care to take part in discussions.

Yes we know we should not used logic to look at any claims of a woman/girl being harm by an evil man/boy.

All we should do is to emote over a young lady being harm by the system and the evil male.

Sorry but I will guarantee that the full story is far more complex then the picture given in your posting.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 18 Aug, 2011 07:13 pm
@BillRM,
Okay look, I never said it was the full story. I made no claims whatsoever. It is you who has decided SHE is the one in the wrong and that's all their is to it.

I CHOOSE who I want to discuss things with. Discussing anything with you is like listening to a broken record. You say the same things NO MATTER what the topic.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 19 Aug, 2011 02:55 am
@Arella Mae,
Yes you post this story on a discussion thread and people tend to post opinions on such threads and frankly I do not care if you would care to address my comments or not.

I am pointing out all to all the readers of this thread the problems with the simple position that the writer of the article was taking that we should all be outrage at the great injustice done to this young woman by an uncaring school system.

We have far too many missing pieces of informations to come to any solid conclusion that is she was a pure innocent victim of a male student and an uncaring school system or not.

Somehow this is likely to be a far more complex story in my opinion at least.

Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 19 Aug, 2011 07:30 am
@BillRM,
Bill NOT EVEN YOU could ruffle my feathers today! The West Memphis Three may possibly be freed after 18 years of imprisonment for something they did not do!

There is justice in this world. It's not always swift but it happens!
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 19 Aug, 2011 07:51 am
@Arella Mae,
18 years in a cell for something you did not do is hardly justice to say the least
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 19 Aug, 2011 08:24 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

18 years in a cell for something you did not do is hardly justice to say the least


Where did I say spending 18 years in prison for something he didn't do is justice? Nothing like putting your own spin on what I said, is there? Rolling Eyes The justice is they finally will be free (if released). It's rather apparent you don't know much about this case. Damien Echols, the one who has been on death row all this time? He's not bitter about it. He even admits how some of his very own words and behavior gave people the wrong impression about him. Even though he's been on death row all this time he's taken opportunities to learn and get an education.

To him, getting out of prison at all, is justice.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 19 Aug, 2011 09:38 am
@Arella Mae,
Speaking of spin after looking up the case there seem some valid questions remaining that they did not indeed kill those three boys.

The father of one of the victims was still of the very firm opinion that his son murderers was indeed those three men.

Stating that if you can get enough movie stars on your side such killers can walk free after murdering his son.

So I am not an expert on this case just hearing about it so how sure are you that you are not celebrating the released of three murderers of three young boys AM?
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 19 Aug, 2011 09:47 am
@BillRM,
For the past four years I have researched it, read everthing I could get my hands on about it, etc.

Wow, go figure. You aren't on the side of the accused this time! Now, why IS that, Bill?

BTW all of the other parents of the slain boys are now fighting to free the WM3. The one that still claims they did it? Guess what? They found his DNA at the crime scene.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 19 Aug, 2011 09:54 am
@Arella Mae,
So your theory is that one of the fathers was the killer how interesting.
 

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