Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Hawkeye it only ten percent of 2 millions men that are raped in prison by Firefly posting.

In other word she can cheerfully dismissed the rapes of 200,000 men as not being of any great concern as it only ten percent after all.

Or it only four years for a prison sentence or so when we was talking about innocent men being convicted of rape.

If you happen to have a penis she could give a **** about you or any sexual misdeed that might happen to you.

Turning a man world upside down with a false charge should be punish if at all with the same level of punishment as filing a false police report of a lost wallet.

Labeling Firefly a bitch of any kind is an uncalled for insult to all the loving female dogs in the world.

Feminine bullying, like when your wife complains you're wasting too much time on things like this, and not attending to your honey-do list?

No wonder you have to hang out in this thread with your two misogynist buddies to feel like a real man.

My you did me a service for a change as you just reminded me that I need to dig out some tax information so my wife can plug in the numbers for our tax return.

One more....I witnessed a preteen girl being raped by her foster mother. A female Police officer didnt believe me, thinking all men lie, women are all sugar and spice, and the little girl suicided. All because of the modern trend where women are out of control.

Most women dont want a woman boss...they find them too bitchy and prone to random mood swings.....no surprises there....they live in the emotional side of their brain roughly 50% of the time, compared to men who are about 90% in their logic side. This female adaptation is excellent for small group dynamics in a chimpanzee type tribe, but lousy in a alpha male position.

I'm sorry you missed this...perhaps my type is blurred....too much ink on the ribbon....but you no doubt want to respond to it, as it is an important issue....I mean we wouldnt want anyone to think you are just a self serving psycho, would we ? So I include it again :

As of June 2009[update], 2,297,400 were incarcerated in U.S. prisons and jails. Using your 1in 10, this means 229,740 men were raped. Who was doing the raping ? There is a much higher incidence or rape perpetrated by men who have been in prison. As you are retarded, I hasten to explain this does not necessarily mean most women who are raped are raped by ex-cons. 89,000 is the absolute maximum the Libbies can stretch out of all possible scenarios to make women look pitiful. I don't know if you have done grade 5 maths, but it looks to me like you are out by a magnitude of over 2.5 times.

You cant be that stupid. Shall I find the posts where you and glowing arse vilified others ? If I go to that trouble, you will give your word to leave this forum and never come back ? So how's your memory, old boy ? Any insults you and glowing arse have made starting to come back to you or do you want to take the challenge ?

You arent vilifying anyone are you bitch ?

Would you guys please stop insulting female dogs by comparing them to Firefly?

It hurts to talk about this one also -

My daughter when she was 8 was molested by my (then, now ex-) partner. She is now 18 and is still not emotionally strong enough to take the matter to the Police and has considerable mental health issues as a result. I tried to tell my ex-wife, the girls mother, that my daughter had suddenly become sexually aware. She didnt believe me. At one stage I was in the gut wrenching position of having my 9 yr old princess make sexual advances to me.

And what are these idiots worried about ? Not the men who are raped by men, not the women who are raped by women, not the men who have been raped by women, but only one class, far smaller than the others put together, women raped by men. Then glowing arse has the cheek, the sheer gall and effrontery, to say she hasn't a feminist agenda. Of course doddering old trepidation doesnt understand much of anything so he rushes in to defend poor poor pitiful women not realising he is taking away women's equality in the process.

There are other issues I have, but that should suffice to explain my anger for the time being. I dont believe in God, but I pray there is a hell. I want to see these ******* clowns burn for an eternity.

On the subject of Bitches and dogs and Firefly my family once had a female dog that strongly dislike a neighbor of ours and onces as he came in to visit us she calmly just walk over to him and lock her jaws on his balls.

No growling or display of any kind before hand.

Now that is a bitch in both meanings of the word.

GOP loses 'forcible rape' language
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/48766.html

A true feminist.

One wonder how many false reports of rapes will now occur in order to get a cover abortion.

If all women will need to do is state I was rape when the limitation on funding of abortions are meaningless.

Firefly should be happy as it will pump up the numbers of reported rapes.

I started this thread to discuss a particular issue--the tendency to blame the victim when a woman has been raped. It is an attitude that affects jurors, and that adds to the difficulties of victims in reporting a rape and the difficulties of prosecutors in winning a rape conviction. I thought it was a topic that might provoke discussion, and that it certainly has done.

My choice of topic had absolutely nothing to do with a "feminist" agenda, or an agenda of any sort. I am not a feminist. I have never been the victim of a sexual assault, nor have any of my family members or close friends been so victimized. I am not a man hater, and I am unequivocally heterosexual. I have not gone through a nasty divorce, nor have I had any other reason to develop bitterness or distrust of men. The men in my life have been, and are, quite wonderful. I not only do not see women as "poor pitiful creatures", I find that description ludicrous. This thread has not been about promoting women as victims, it has, if anything, reflected their strength and resilience, particularly when dealing with problems of sexual abuse and rape.

So, unlike you, and Hawkeye, and BillRM, I am not personally angry about anything related to this topic and I have no personal ax to grind, and no personal agenda to promote. In fact, the only advocacy I have made in this thread is to support the currently existing sexual assault/rape laws--laws which protect both genders, and laws which protect minors as well as adults. I think it is important for people to know exactly what those laws say because that is how the crime of rape is defined--in the exact wording of those laws. And this thread has served a very useful function in disseminating information--and not propaganda--about the exact wording of the laws. Throughout this thread, I have made it very clear that no sexual assault/rape of anyone is tolerable--all such crimes are wrong, no matter who is the victim. And all such crimes deserve to be punished and stopped.

That you, and Hawkeye, and BillRM have chosen to use this topic to vent your anger toward women, and to wage some sort of vendetta against "feminists" and the "Libby Lobby", who you apparently feel have contributed to the sources of your discontent, has been somewhat baffling because you have all been very vague about exactly who you are talking about, and what these people are actually writing and speaking about. In addition, without any justification, virtually every female posting in this thread has been accused of being a man-hating feminist, as though the three of you are all off on some sort of demented witch hunt. So, that is why, in my mind, the three of you all come off as sounding like every other nutty paranoid conspiracy theorist. In addition, you seem fixated on "feminists" being lesbians, which apparently frees you, as well as Hawkeye and BillRM, to engage in gay-bashing. Although I am not a lesbian, I find your gay-bashing as offensive and hateful as racism, and as repugnant as the sexism which has been abundantly displayed here by the three of you. The women posting in this thread have not displayed anti-male attitudes--we have been talking about rapists, and we have never attributed the behaviors of rapists to men in general. In fact, the only person posting in this thread to even suggest such a connection was Hawkeye, who contended that the tendency to rape was inherent in the "biological wiring" of men, and I disagreed with him about that. So, while I'm sure the three of you have your personal reasons for being angry at women, some of which I can understand, I don't think that in any way excuses the woman-bashing that's gone on in this thread.

Frankly, I don't care if you think I should go to hell, or if Hawkeye thinks I'm "pure evil" or the "scourge of the earth", or if BillRM thinks that calling me a "bitch" gives dogs a bad name. I don't care that the three of you weave fantasies about me in order to justify your insults. If my support of the sexual assault/rape laws provokes that sort of histrionic response, it reflects on the three of you, and your personal obsessions, and it doesn't affect me at all. Nothing the three of you has said has convinced me that those laws are unjust or unfair to anyone. I feel this thread has served a positive purpose and that my time was well spend here.

I certainly can understand your anger about what was done to your daughter by her mother. Child sexual abuse is a tragedy, and I am deeply sorry that your daughter was such a victim. I am also sorry that Child Protective Services or the Police weren't contacted by you at the time you realized something was wrong, when she was 9, so that she might have been better protected from her abuser, and might have received earlier mental health treatment. But, each person makes their own decisions about such matters, and these are difficult issues for families to confront. I am sorry that your child continues to experience considerable problems, and I hope that she will achieve some resolution and sense of peace for herself.

Since you, and Hawkeye, and BillRM, seem to have abandoned all pretense of a rational discussion, and have instead resorted to doing little more than slinging insults, with all the abandon of prepubescent boys engaged in a food fight in their junior high school cafeteria, I'll leave you in peace to continue whining, and complaining, about how women victimize and abuse men, and to continue to egg each other on in bigger and better displays of your sense of self righteous indignation. At this point it's gotten too repetitive and boring to bother listening to.

So, go ahead, enjoy yourselves, be as hateful as you wish. Rant on without further interference or input from me.

No, you started this thread in the attempt to sell the feminist viewpoint that the woman has no responsibilities at all when sex goes wrong, that it is all the fault of men. You were rude and condescending from the start towards anyone who disagreed or even questioned your opinion on the matter. You were in fact highly hostile towards discussion.

Till the end you seem incapable of honesty.

BULLSHIT as this thread was shuted down for a short time and then it was reopen by your postings.

You are not leaving for any prolong period as you do have a viewpoint to sell at any cost even at the cost of the truth.

She will leave because she completely fucked herself by being unwilling to define rape. So she declares victory and takes one more piss at her opposition and leaves. She will probably stay gone unless she comes up with some bright idea for a new approach.

Well she had put both of her feet into **** more then once here as in only ten percents of men in prisons are rape victims which at 200,000 plus is three to four times the yearly numbers of total female reported rapes in the country.

An somehow I had a feelings that she might be gone for a few weeks but she will regroup and be back.

I think that the last time she left it started to eat away at her that she was not having the success that she is accustomed to having, that she decided that her failure was that she did not work hard enough so she came back for another go. Now is different, now she probably does see that the problem is not her work ethic it is rather in her arguments. Her real problem is her position, but she certainly does not see that yet.

It is a whole new ball game when men decide to stop taking gratuitous abuse from women. Needing to justify our current approach to sexual regulation and power in relationship with facts and evidence is not at all like the old days when women could count on getting their way with a combination of overt bullying and subvert bullying (crying with a purpose)

Absolutely stunned that you can lie like that.

Time and again you paste rape horror stories "for the common good" and your like minded sickos come out of the woodwork to go "tut-tut, isnt that awful"....these are real people, not Hollywood and your lack of respect to victims is obvious by your laughing at men who are raped.

Now you want us to believe you are really a nice person who is a victim of typed abuse but where was your sympathy for people who were raped ? Saving it all for yourself I see.