Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

BillRM (and Hawkeye) would like everyone to pretend that rape is an insignificant crime and that rape laws were designed by a man-hating coven of "feminists" to ensnare totally innocent men and toss them in prison. Their misogynistic views, several hundred pages worth, have been put forth by them as reasons to have the rape laws abolished. They favor decriminalizing rape unless extreme force is used and the victim is beaten to a bloody pulp to demonstrate her resistance. Unfortunately, most females are raped by someone known to them, and most of these rapes do not require extreme force--so BillRM and Hawkeye would like these victims to be considered fair, and legal, prey for rapists. In a thread about rape, they have been pro-rape advocates.

Yes, we do have cases of statute rapes here and we surely need to punish him, however he was zero threat to young women/girls who was not looking for sexual hookups in the first place

If she is free to get up and walk away without fear of physical harm of any kind then it is not rape

You see nothing wrong with the behavior of the adult man? His behavior is justified because you persist in seeing these females as actively seeking sexual contact with him--despite the total lack of evidence that was the case? He lured these females--he enticed them to meet him as a friend--and then he plied them with pot and booze so he could have sex with them. This man's behavior went way beyond simple statutory rape.

Total responsibility for a rape rests with the rapist.

It does not require extreme force of any kind it does however take some kind of threat of force at least.

If she is free to get up and walk away without fear of physical harm of any kind then it is not rape.

For the one thousand times rape is the used of physical force or the threat of such forces or the drugging of a woman behind her back or having sex with a woman who is not aware and able to react with her surroundings.

Their misogynistic views, several hundred pages worth, have been put forth by them as reasons to have the rape laws abolished

No, there is no indication that these girls--most of whom were about 15--were looking for a sexual encounter with this man.

Rape depends on consent, not on force or threat--and non consensual sexual intercourse has always been considered rape.

Responding to you is a complete waste of time.

Sometimes the victim is heavily involved in setting up permissive conditions for rape

Sometimes the victim...occasionally even attempt to provoke rape

Absolutely untrue. The only permissive condition for sexual intercourse is when consent is present.

You just cannot accept that full responsibility for the act of rape rests with the person who commits the act--the rapist

Sounds like, and it is more proof that you are out to shut down the practice of the sexual arts

almost no sex would ever happen under your desired conditions that must be in place to make sex lawful

Have you ever tried to get up and walk away when a heavier person is on top of you--thrusting his penis in you, or about to penetrate you?

The 92 year old woman, who was raped in her nursing home bed by the 17 year old kitchen worker who brought her a cup of tea on Christmas morning (which actual news item was posted in this thread}, would not fit your definition of rape--the woman was aware, able to get out of her bed, and no extreme force, or threat of force, was required. That was a very real rape--and the young male was sentenced to time in a very real prison.

Here you are being purposefully misleading, because as you know in old law the sex was not lawful only if one person demonstrated that they did not want the sex, now it is not lawful unless both people indicate that they do want the sex

We are talking about an adult man, a sexual predator, who has been convicted on several felony counts of rape with underage girls he plied with pot and booze to facilitate their acquiescence

Most people have no problem limiting their sexual activities to consenting partners.

because you will not tell us what you think consent means, and which level of consent must be reached for sex to become lawful.

The issue is whether he has the consent of the other person for the act. That's not a "new condition".

Second if a 92 year old woman was of sound mind then she had as must right to have sex as anyone else and if not then she would fall under not being aware of her surroundings.

So I am assuming that there was a court judgment somewhere along the way that she was not of sound mind otherwise even under your new age defining of rape the worst that could had happen is that he lost his job.

No, dimwit. The woman WAS RAPED. She was of perfectly sound mind. The sexual intercourse was non consensual--she did not want it. He simply got on top of her AND RAPED HER