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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 12:04 pm
@firefly,
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Hopefully, this settlement will enable the girl to receive whatever help she needs and allow her to put this horrible incident behind her once the perpetrators trials conclude.


With that kind of a large settlement, she will be able to go for alcoholic treatment at any of the top facilitates in the world.

She lucks in any case to be alive with a .357 alcohol blood level.

This kind of remind me of when a fool got wasted and high diving into an empty pool at the University of Miami and as a result ended up paralytic for life.

The University insurance company somehow ended up paying the fool millions of dollars.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 12:05 pm
@BillRM,
You should come with an interpreter.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 12:29 pm
@Intrepid,
Signal to noise ratio for your postings=.00000000000000000000001
Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 12:43 pm
@BillRM,
Ooh, you are so clever.






Laughing Laughing
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 12:56 pm
@BillRM,
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A nurse who has had an sexual affair with one of her patients had just lost her nursing license for twenty years.

That makes some sense for things like teacher/student and shrink/patient affairs, where the power imbalance is extreme, but not for cases like this. We tend to meet the majority of our sexual partners on the job, so making it a crime against the employer or a professional ethics problem to be sexual with people we meet on the job is an assault on individual rights, and is oppressive.

Only if the nurse had this sex on the job should her employment be at risk.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 01:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
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where the power imbalance is extreme


You would have to look at others factors then just the sheer power balances between people otherwise we would have to insist that Bill Gates and his wife be divorce at once.

After all, she was just a mid-level manager and he was one of the wealthy men in history of the human race as well as running the company she was working for during their courtship.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 01:47 pm
@BillRM,
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You would have to look at others factors then just the sheer power balances between people otherwise we would have to insist that Bill Gates and his wife be divorce at once.

Absolutely! CEO's, multi millionaires, and powerful government officials all are going to have to give up most of their opportunities for sex if the sex Nazis have their way.....this can't be good for the majority, as who would ever want to accumulate money or power under those conditions? Where are we going to find our leaders?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 02:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
Bill Gates was not only lucky but brave as can you just see the crying and the beating of the chests of people like Firefly would have done if his courtship had not work out and his now wife had claimed victimhood due to the power imbalance?

The calls for news laws and congressional hearings to better protected poor working women from evil billionaire male sexual predators.

Hell Gates should in fact be facing charges of rape as how given the power imbalance could the poor lady be able to grant willing and meaningful consent?
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 03:00 pm
This man has already spent half his life beyond bars, and he may well spend the rest of it behind bars as well.
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January 23, 2011
All seven rape victims identified suspect in serial attacks, lawyer says
GEORGE HUNTER
The Detroit News

Detroit— The 31-year-old man being held by police connection with seven sexual assaults was picked out of a lineup by each of the rape victims, the suspect's lawyer said.

Clinton Township attorney James L. Galen Jr. said his client is confined in the 2nd Precinct lockup awaiting charges that are likely to be brought Monday. Police already have submitted a warrant to prosecutors seeking rape charges, according to court documents.

A 9 a.m. press conference about the case has been scheduled at police headquarters. Detroit Police officials told The News DNA has connected the suspect with the sexual assaults that took place on Detroit's east side from Jan. 1-14.

Galen said investigators also told him they have DNA evidence linking his client to the attacks. In addition to the DNA taken by the Michigan Department of Corrections while the suspect was in prison, Detroit Police forensic investigators collected a second sample Thursday, Galen said.

"They obtained a search warrant that allowed them to swab my client's mouth," said Galen, who was retained by the man's family.

Police arrested the man Wednesday outside his home on Landsdowne Street, not far from where the rapes occurred. Montia Tyus, who lives with the suspect, said he resembled one of the composite sketches released by police, and that he often would disappear at night with no explanation, although she expressed surprise that the man she described as her ex-boyfriend was being questioned about the assaults.

"I can't believe he did it — if he did it," Tyus said hours after his arrest Wednesday.

Investigators normally are allowed to hold suspects for questioning for 48 hours without bringing charges, although in some cases that can be extended to 72 hours. However, Detroit Police are holding the suspected serial rapist longer than that because of a parole violation, a police official told The News.

Galen said he's not aware of how his client violated parole. "Nobody has explained to me what the violation was," he said.

The man's parole was scheduled to end Thursday.

Galen said his client was put in a police lineup the day after his arrest. "It's my understanding, after talking to investigators, that he was picked out by seven different individuals as the perpetrator," Galen said.

Police interrogated the man, but he invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination, Galen said.

Galen also claimed his client appeared in 36th District Court via video Thursday for an unknown reason. "He was put in the room where they do video arraignments, and he appeared before a judge or magistrate, although no charges were read to him," he said. "This was confirmed by one of the officers in charge of the case, although he didn't say what it was about. It's something I'm looking into."

Since the arrest, police have taken the suspect to the hospital twice to be treated for injuries he sustained in a traffic accident nine months ago, Galen said.

"He was in a severe crash and is still on pain medication; the police have been good about making sure he gets it," Galen said. "But they haven't allowed him to make a phone call. One of the investigators told me he's been placed on special restrictions by the upper echelons of the police department, and that he's not allowed to have contact with anyone but his lawyer."

The suspect has spent nearly half of his life behind bars. He was less than two months past his 15th birthday when he was arrested on Aug. 3, 1994. He was later convicted of assault with intent to commit murder, among other charges, and sentenced to 10 to 20 years. He was released in January 2009 after serving 14 years.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20110123/METRO/101230322/1409/All-seven-rape-victims-identified-suspect-in-serial-attacks--lawyer-says

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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 03:08 pm
Date rape can involve force--and weapons.
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Deputies: DNA test links Army sergeant to Pasco date rape
Times staff
January 20, 2011

A 34-year-old Army sergeant is in jail after a woman told authorities he raped her at gunpoint on a date in August. The arrest came after a DNA test tied him to the crime.

The woman, 25, reported in August that she and Louis Anthony Cortese Sr. went to a bar and then he drove her to a spot behind Lane Glo North Bowling Alley, 6935 Ridge Road.

According to a Pasco County Sheriff's Office report, the woman said Cortese got in the back seat with her, pulled a gun and put her in a choke hold until she couldn't breathe. He then forced sexual acts on her, the report says.

After she was raped, the woman said Cortese took her sweater away and made her wash off, saying he was getting rid of evidence, according to the report.

On Nov. 29, Cortese provided a DNA sample to authorities and a month later, the report says, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement matched his DNA to evidence collected from the victim's underwear.

Cortese, of 18643 Gracie Lee St. in Spring Hill, was held without bail Wednesday on a charge of sexual battery with a deadly weapon.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/deputies-dna-test-links-army-sergeant-to-pasco-date-rape/1146369


BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 03:12 pm
@firefly,
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Date rape can involve force--and weapons.


A claimed date rape involving force and a weapon not a proven date rape of any kind at the moment.

Note DNA can only prove there was sex not rape.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 03:52 pm
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Cleveland Rape Crisis Center sees surge of victims seeking help, credits collaboration with detectives
January 22, 2011
By Leila Atassi, The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The number of sexual assault victims seeking help from the Cleveland Rape Crisis Center has surged since October, when a victim advocate began working full-time within the police department's Sex Crimes Unit, collaborating with detectives and making sure victims' needs are met.

The Rape Crisis Center reports that 61 clients, whose cases were routed to the agency by way of the embedded advocate, have participated in the center's crisis intervention programs in the past three months.

Previously, clients would have to call the agency on their own. And many victims, without an advocate's support, would lose the strength to continue assisting detectives or prosecutors. Cases frequently are closed when detectives deem victims "uncooperative."

Megan O'Bryan, the president and chief executive of the center, said she hopes that providing a sense of comfort for victims while they interact with the criminal justice system will encourage their cooperation and bring more rapists to justice.

"The advocate is following up with every victim to ensure they don't fall through the cracks," O'Bryan said. "Just the immediate presence of an advocate, working shoulder-to-shoulder with detectives, has gone a long way toward assuring victims that someone will be there to address their emotional needs as their case moves forward."

The swell in participation is the first measurable progress resulting from Mayor Frank Jackson's year-long campaign to improve the way police handle sexual assault and missing persons cases in the aftermath of the Imperial Avenue serial killings and the arrest of suspect Anthony Sowell.

Jackson appointed a special commission in 2009, after The Plain Dealer reported that at least six of the women whose remains were found in Sowell's home were killed after police failed to adequately investigate accusations that he raped two other women.

In a 900-page report published in April, the panel identified more than two dozen deficiencies in the way Cleveland police do business -- and Jackson vowed to resolve them all.

An oversight committee charged with tracking the city's progress has issued quarterly reports ever since, indicating what has been done to satisfy each of the commission's recommendations.

So far, the city reports it has met the majority of its goals. But how most of those changes will effect the quality of sex crimes investigations is yet to be seen.

For example, among the first reported improvements was that the city issued cell phones and e-mail addresses to all sex crimes detectives. But members of the oversight committee say it's unclear whether victims have more access to detectives because of the added technology.

Also detectives, who previously logged their investigative work in paper case files, are transitioning to an electronic case-management system. But Deputy Chief Edward Tomba said in a recent interview that the technology is not sophisticated enough to perform a critical function -- cross-referencing cases and flagging patterns that could lead to the arrest of serial rapists.

Nearly a year after the commission recommended the city remodel the sex crimes unit offices to create a more victim-friendly environment, the committee reports this effort is in progress. So far, however, the improvements are limited to a recent fresh coat of paint in the office's waiting rooms -- work performed by outside volunteers, the Rape Crisis Center reports.

And further improvements are on hold until county officials determine the fate of the Family Justice Center initiative, which might relocate the sex crimes unit altogether.

The city also reports that a team of specially-trained prosecutors have been assigned to work closely with sex crimes detectives to help them improve the quality of their investigations. But those same 12 prosecutors handle most of the city's domestic violence docket, as well -- more than 1,000 cases a year.

Other commission recommendations are slated to be addressed in the coming year and could either yield measurable progress or reveal further deficiencies.

All police officers will be required to participate in a Rape Crisis Center-designed training program on best practices in sexual assault report-taking. And a company called Wilson Research Strategies has been commissioned to audit detectives caseloads and perform a quality assurance assessment.

For now, the committee is impressed with the city's continued effort, said committee spokeswoman Yvonne Tripplett.

"We realized it wasn't going to happen overnight," Tripplett said. "Anything that can be done isn't going to benefit the 11 women on Imperial Avenue. But it will help people in the future, and that's something we're really pleased to be a part of."
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/01/cleveland_rape_crisis_center_s.html
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 03:58 pm
@firefly,
Also take note that the sergeant name is out there and it does not matter if he is clear of the charges or not as for the rest of his life anyone doing a google search will see his name as an accuse rapist.

Sadly there is one hell of a lot of firefly type of people who a charge of rape is as good as a conviction for rape.

How many people also do you think who remember that David Copperfield was charge with raping a woman on his private island also know that she turn out to be a con woman and the charges was groundless?

Hell in other postings here Firefly had stated that even a court finding of innocent does not removed the question mark in front of a man name.

This is the results for any man who is charge with rape in this society.

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 04:33 pm
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(CNN) -- While saying he believes just one man is responsible, Detroit Police Chief Ralph Godbee said Monday that authorities have detained nine men as part of their hunt for a serial rapist.

Seven women were criminally sexually assaulted between January 1 and 14, police said, and another woman got away from a would-be attacker. Godbee said the victims were African-Americans, ages 17 to 33. One is from Clinton Township. The rest are from Detroit.

"We want to stop this madness as soon as possible," the chief said.

Under the direction of lead investigator Sgt. Marvin Jones, Detroit police rounded up the nine men -- ages 20 to 38 -- in and around northeast Detroit, where the assaults occurred.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/17/michigan.serial.rapist/index.html?hpt=T2

That is so great, so they have a serial rapist so the cops go out and find 9 guys who look like they may be guilty, find charges for them, lock them up, take their DNA...and then it turns out that they think they find the real guy two days later, that none of the nine were the rapist, so they got locked up for being black men of the right build and hight in the wrong place at the wrong time. I suppose that if one black man rapes then they all deserve to suffer. WE'VE COME A LONG WAY BABY!

This reminds me of frontier justice, not the justice of an allegedly civilized society.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 05:04 pm
@hawkeye10,
One guess only of the color of the skin and the social standing or lack of same of the men who the Detroit Police could dream of getting away with such nonsense.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 05:38 pm
@BillRM,
Detroit has had nothing but incompetent and/or corrupt leadership for a long time. Doing it right would come as such a shock that the citzens would not know what to think. In this case they have a new young stud police chief who needs to prove that he is tough on rape because of his own shaky past when it comes to sexual behavior. But innocent citzens should not pay for his problems with miscarried justice.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 06:05 pm
@hawkeye10,
In the news someone just walk into a police station in Detroit with a shotgun and open fired with four police officers shot and the man with the shotgun kill.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 06:52 pm
@BillRM,
What is your point...that we must accept frontier justice in America's third world cities?? Detroit is in every way a dying city, and has been for a long time, and at this point it could just as well be a city in come corrupt African nation things have gotten so bad. However, I think that we have a right to expect justice, even in the pursuit of sex crimes perps.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 11:53 pm
@hawkeye10,
My point is that I just hear it on the news as we was talking about the Detroit police of the shooting and it did enter my mind that the "gentleman" with the shotgun might had been piss off because of the actions such as the roundup we had been talking about by that police department.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2011 11:54 pm
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Rape runs rampant in wake of Haiti's 2010 earthquake that devastated country, report finds
Jared Mccallister
Sunday, January 23rd 2011

Even as a harsh spotlight shines on the controversial return of ex-President Jean-Claude (Baby Doc) Duvalier - and the rumored return of another ex-president, Jean-Bertrand Aristide - the beleaguered nation of Haiti is bearing a terrible and underpublicized tragedy: An epidemic of sexual violence is occurring in the wake of the 2010 earthquake, according to a recently released report.

The report, "Our Bodies Are Still Trembling: Haitian Women Continue to Fight Against Rape," tells a sad tale of increasing incidents of rape against Haitian women and girls. It says that there seems to be no immediate end to the terror in sight, and while there are grassroots efforts underway to help victims, international intervention may be needed.

Overcrowding, inadequate lighting and lack of security in displacement camps are all factors contributing to the problem, the report adds.

Its recommendations include the release of pledged relief funding so that Haiti can have the resources to cope with the crisis, and a call for greater accountability from the NGOs (nongovernmental organizations) receiving relief funds.

"Unfortunately, the only difference between six months ago and today is that sexual violence in displacement camps is only now being recognized as an issue, but still not much is being done," said Lisa Davis of MADRE, a human rights organization, which released the report in conjunction with the Institute for Justice & Democracy in Haiti (IJDH), the Bureau des Avocats Internationaux (BAI) and the International Womens' Human Rights Clinic of the CUNY School of Law.

MADRE has been working with KOFAVIV (the Commission of Women Victims for Victims) to aid the victims of sexual attacks. KOFAVIV is an organization established by and for rape survivors.

"Haitian grass-roots groups and their partners have been working tirelessly and at great personal risk to protect and empower women and girls," explained Annie Gell, BAI's rape accountability and prevention project coordinator. "However, the international community has largely failed to do its part despite its vast resources."
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/01/23/2011-01-23_rape_rampant_in_haiti_report_finds.html
 

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