Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Sex and courtship between humans is a very complex occurrence and Firefly drive or need to find excuses to place men in prison for any possible misstep or errors of communications during the process is sickening to say nothing of the double standards used in such cases.

Standards that turn women into children who men have a duty to look after instead of being equal partners.

Women have however a zero duty to men in the other direction so any errors or missteps in the mating dance will never place a woman at legal risk only the man.

To the silly point where a woman is free to jump into bed with a sleeping man and have sex with him and then claimed the next day that she was rape because of her drinking that he had nothing to do with.

The fact of his drinking before falling asleep in bed alone is beside the point as she had no duty to him in that regard.

Complicated yes, and not all sugar and spice and everything nice because when we come together in the erotic we bare our soul, we bring all of us. Humans have a dark side, which only the fools deny. This dark side will and must play out through the dance between Eros and Psyche .....a dance that Firefly wants to criminalize.

Firefly is hard at work denying what she is....and demands that we all conform to her fantasy.....this is the definition of barbarity...

LMBOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Barbarity? You are into BDSM and you accuse firefly of barbarity???????????? OMG!!!!!!!!!! TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matthew Chapter 7 Verse 1
Do not judge so that you will not be judged

AM please explain how you have the moral rights to view the consensus sexual actions/behaviors between adults including BDSM with such contempt?

Not my scene however that is beside the point what his wife and him or anyone else does in private is neither my rights or your to look down on.

bill, bill, bill, it's obvious you don't read much of the bible, do you? If you will read that whole chapter, it says do not judge HYPOCRITICALLY. Do not accuse someone of something you, yourself, are doing. I am not into BDSM. Hawkeye has said that he is into BDSM. What does BDSM stand for bill? Do you know? Isn't it funny though? You want to bring the bible into this while I have kept it out of this? Getting pretty desperate are ya?

Got news for you and your buddy. You two have gone way too far for me to take anything you say seriously or even having the slightest bit of truth to it. I make that judgement, and, oh by the way, we make judgements every single day about right and wrong, etc. You both have become so laughable it is pathetic.

Yes, I claim the high road.Those of us who practice the need we have to play power games in consensual sexual relationships are the civilized parties in this debate, those who deny the human nature and attempt to make others behave as their fantasies tell them we should are the barbaric ones in this debate. Our consent is not what firefly means by consent though, so far as I am concerned everyone is responsible for what they do and the choices they make, and that once someone has the physical ability to leave a relationship or room (they are not tied to wall, not restrained by physical force and the door opens) remaining in that relationship or sex act constitutes consent. Neither the state nor you have the right to interfere, so long as the person is over 18 yo (should be 15 yo). If they dont want to be there but dont leave dont whine about it, commit to doing a better job of taking care of yourself next time. Dont expect me or anyone else to take care of you more than you are willing to take care of yourself....you are not a child, and I refuse to treat as if you are one.

Intrepid, where is that laughing mouse? I need to borrow it.

So the lord had talk to you directly on the subject of BDSM?

In any case as a good Christian you would had been the only one in the mob without sins who would had been able and willing to cast the first stone at the adulterer. Hopefully not hitting Jesus by having poor aim.

You have no need to ask Jesus for forgiveness of your sins as you are without any and are able and eager to aid the lord in judging your fellow man?

Arella Mae, I hope you realize those two have departed from any connection with reality.

Rape is now part of the "mating dance"? Non consensual sex is part of erotic courtship?

They have run the gamut of rape denials. Rape is a fabrication of the "rape industry", rape laws exist mainly to ensnare innocent men and throw them in prison, the need for "consent" interferes with the meeting "of Eros and Psyche" in relationships, and is just a nuisance anyway, elderly rapists should not be held accountable for their crimes because it's not "cost effective", women who are semi-conscious are really asking to be raped, rape laws are "anti-sex", rape is just "bad sex", and on and on. One rape denial after another.

They just don't think rape is such a big deal--if they think it exists at all. So, let's decriminalize non consenting sexuality activity. If women feel raped, they'll get over it.

Have you ever heard such absurd drivel, Arella Mae?

We don't need to convince them that rape is a serious crime with devastating effects on its victims. We don't need to convince them why the current rape laws are needed. We don't need to explain why those who violate those laws must be held accountable for their behavior, and that only the rapist is responsible for the act of rape.

They just don't get it. They just don't understand the topic. This isn't a difference of opinion, these two seem to exist in some alternate universe, with their own versions of reality.

So, we really have nothing to say to them, do we? No point in replying to them, is there? Why should we lower ourselves to their absurd level of discourse?

It's difficult to regard people who are vile enough to attack rape victims, including you, with anything but contempt. Mocking your emotional feelings about this topic, or suggesting that you "get off" or feel a "thrill" reading news stories about rapes, is about as insensitive and despicable as a person can get. That they personally attack the actual rape survivors who have posted in this thread, says it all. There is nothing more we need to know about their opinions on this topic. They've revealed themselves quite well.

They deserve to be ignored, with good reason.

what made anyone think that God is not into BDSM? Ever read the story of JOB? What about Noah...what do you think happened to everyone who did not make it onto the ark? BDSM is about playing with power, the sex is only a part of it.

AGREE 100 PERCENT.

The problem is what your are trying your best to sell as rape is not rape.

Girl, I am with you. I honestly cannot stop laughing at how desperate they have gotten. I shouldn't feel this way but right now, it's how I feel. I am 100% for ignoring them. My side already hurts from laughing. So, I'm wif ya alll deeee waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy!

Intrepid, I found me own meeces.

bill and hawkeye,

Christians try very hard never to read the old testament Hawkeye.

Yes AM you are a fine example of a Christian of the kind that would have no problems torturing others to death in the name of Jesus.

Or as Jesus is likely saying to his father at this very moment in heaven.

Forgive AM for she know not what she does.

that has not worked through 323 pages because you know damn well that our argument is too good to ignore. You cant sink it either....

I have met a good many self described Christians in BDSM, they dont seem to think that their faith and BDSM conflict. A am sure that FIrefly is also aware that their are loads of sexual assault victims in BDSM as well, in fact an overpopulation of them, something that her theories on abuse will not ever explain, and that she will never in a 1000 years deal with other than to claim that they are broken people who sign up for further abuse, a claim that those individuals that she is speaking of find highly offensive.

If they pump themselves full of any more hot air they might explode.

I am sure you have done so however AM would just claimed that they are not true Christians just as she claimed the right to judge you and your wife.

You know Hawkeye if I was a true believer instead of an evil atheist I would suggest we are going to need to stop postings in order for AM to not further endanger her soul perhaps even beyond Jesus power to save.