Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@Arella Mae,

they're awfully long,maybe i am buyt i'm right about consent

@BillRM,

Read your post about that Maryland case again. The last sentence in the quote about the case is

Quote:

Due to issues involving the instructions to the jury regarding rape and consent, the case was remanded for a new trial.

The conviction was reversed. He got a new trial.

Read your quote about the Maryland case a second time. It says that in other states consent can be withdrawn after penetration. In some states, other than Maryland. But that is not the way the courts in Maryland ruled. They said consent cannot be withdrawn after penetration.

1 Reply

@firefly,

Quote:

They said consent cannot be withdrawn after penetration.

Wrong once more and anyone can go back and read the article if they care to.

Saying the wrong information over and over does not made it true.

The court noted other states had noted that the act of intercourse is not completed at the initial penetration, and so consent could be withdrawn at any point during intercourse.

1 Reply

@ABE5177,

ABE5177 wrote:

they're awfully long,maybe i am buyt i'm right about consent

They are long because firefly takes the time to make sure each issue is addressed fully. I happen to like firefly's posts and have learned a great deal from them.

You are not right about consent. You and Hawkey want to address someting that "may" happen whereas rapes happen every few minutes. You both care more about the rapists than you do anything else. Says a lot about your character.

1 Reply

@Arella Mae,

Quote:

You and Hawkey want to address someting that "may" happen whereas rapes happen every few minutes. You both care more about the rapists than you do anything else. Says a lot about your character.

May happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry because the events we are concern about is rarer then no question about it rape does not mean that they do not occur and cause harm to real people.

1 Reply

@BillRM,

I'm not attempting to convince people that the meaning of rape should be expanded. Please cite an example of where I said that.

I have been trying to discuss currently existing rape laws. I've never raised any issue about expanding them.

There are existing rape laws which go beyond your definition of rape. The law defines what it considers to be rape. You can't say it should include only what you want it to include, and ignore the rest of the law. And these are laws I did not write, nor do I take any responsibility for the definitions of rape they use.

The business of false accusations has been covered repeatedly in this thread. Do you have anything new to say on the matter? We all know people sometimes make false accusations. I'm not going to continue discussing that issue unless it covers some new ground.

1 Reply

@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Quote:
You and Hawkey want to address someting that "may" happen whereas rapes happen every few minutes. You both care more about the rapists than you do anything else. Says a lot about your character.

May happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry because the events we are concern about is rarer then no question about it rape down not mean that they do not occur and cause harm to real people.

NO ONE EVER SAID IT DOESN'T HAPPEN! NO ONE EVER SAID THE WOMAN SHOULD GET OFF SCOTT FREE FOR DOING IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Why don't you try reading what everyone is actually posting instead of what you think it is.

2 Replies

@BillRM,

CAN YOU READ THIS?

Quote:

The court noted other states had noted that the act of intercourse is not completed at the initial penetration, and so consent could be withdrawn at any point during intercourse.

OTHER STATES means states other than Maryland.

In Maryland, consent cannot be withdrawn after penetration.

If you can't read or understand what you are posting, you shouldn't post it.

If you can't understand the facts of the case, you shouldn't even be discussing it.

1 Reply

@firefly,

Quote:

There are existing rape laws which go beyond your definition of rape

Sorry but if you would care to post the whole rape/sexual assault statue of any state in the union that support your claims I would be interested in reading it or them.

I would also be willing to post the State of Florida in total statue on this matter where it is clear even to a layman the normal meaning of rape still hold.

Claiming something is the law does not made it so.

1 Reply

@firefly,

You can not read can you? That what they was quoting to back up their ruling.

0 Replies

@Arella Mae,

I think it is hopeless to try to reason with an unreasonable person.

We are just knocking ourselves out. I'm not sure it's worth it because nothing seems to get through.

Both of them are only interested in discussing how men are victimized by rape laws.

They should post their own thread on that topic.

1 Reply

@firefly,

firefly wrote:

I think it is hopeless to try to reason with an unreasonable person.

We are just knocking ourselves out. I'm not sure it's worth it because nothing seems to get through.

Both of them are only interested in discussing how men are victimized by rape laws.

They should post their own thread on that topic.

I am seriously thinking perhaps they were accused of rape at one time and that's why they have such tunnel vision.

I keep trying even when I say I won't anymore just hoping MAYBE MAYBE they will wake up to reality.

1 Reply

@BillRM,

Quote:

that support your claims

What claims? What claims am I making? What exactly are you referring to? I don't know what you are talking about.

1 Reply

@Arella Mae,

Firefly had said more then once that she see no reason to punish making such a false charges beyond the very mild punishment call for in making a false police report.

In other word walking away with a slap on the wrist at worst.

1 Reply

@BillRM,

I don't recall her posting that. Would you mind posting what you are referring to? I highly doubt she said it the way you are making it sound.

1 Reply

@Arella Mae,

No, I really think it's hopeless.

Unless some other people start posting in here it's impossible to have a discussion. They've driven everyone away from the thread.

They don't want to have a discussion. One keeps saying the same few things over and over, and the other one is on a soapbox crusading to get "abominable anti-sex" laws off the books.

1 Reply

@firefly,

I think you are right firefly. I have enjoyed your posts and the posts of the others except for those two.

1 Reply

@firefly,

I am getting tired of playing with you!!!

Your claims of your that the rapes laws as they now stand had been expanded beyond force or the threat of force of involuntary drugging.

1 Reply

@Arella Mae,

I've enjoyed your posts too Arella Mae. We can watch the thread and come back when other people post.

1 Reply

@firefly,

Will do because I do believe it is a subject worthy of a good discussion.

0 Replies

Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Related Topics

Quick Links

My Account

able2know