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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:40 pm
Women do get raped by domestic partners. Men are not entitled to take what they want sexually, without the consent of the woman--even if they have been in a long term relationship. This woman wants the man's name made public, even if that will help to identify her.
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Partner Asks For Rapist To Be Named
November, 10, 2010

A woman attacked and raped by her partner of 12 years has told the court she wants his name published, as he begins a seven-and-a-half year jail sentence.

Fred Falwasser, 56, of West Melton, pleaded guilty to charges of assault and sexual violation by rape in the Christchurch District Court, and a charge of having sex with an underage girl in a separate incident.

At the sentencing today, Judge Philip Moran said he would grant the request and allow Falwasser's name and relationship with the victim to be published, even though it would tend to identify the woman.

The identities of the victims of sex attacks are normally automatically suppressed.

Twenty people from the families of the victim and the offender were in court for the sentencing. He received waves and farewell wishes from his family members as the sentence began.

Both victims' impact statements were read in court by crown prosecutor Tim Mackenzie. He said the younger victim said it was a great relief when Falwasser was held in custody because she had been locking herself in her house and feared seeing him in the street.

Falwasser's partner said she had been injured in the assault and rape, which occurred four days apart. She had moved to a women's refuge and resigned her job and was now on the domestic purposes benefit. She was still in pain.

The couple had planned to get married in 2011, but the woman said her dreams had now been destroyed.

Defence counsel Pip Hall said Falwasser had undertaken counselling since the offending.

Ms Hall said there was a background of substance abuse and her client's guilty pleas had acknowledged his responsibility and remorse.

He was expecting a significant jail term.

Judge Moran said that when the couple had argued in April, Falwasser had held a rifle to the woman's head and told her he was going to blow her head off. She knew the rifle was not loaded and pushed it away.

Falwasser then threw her over a couch, injuring her back.

Four days later, he raped the woman after she refused sex because she had had a medical procedure the previous week and was debilitated and in pain.

The judge said Falwasser had thought he was entitled and had simply helped himself.

He said Falwasser had prior criminal convictions, but none for sex offending. He had held down a responsible job in the construction industry for many years.

``You have come undone by abuse of alcohol - binge drinking - and abuse of cannabis.''

``To your significant credit you had the courage to face your whanau and tell them what you had done. You also stood before 68 of your fellow employees and told them what you did. That is a significant factor that gives some hope for your rehabilitation,'' said Judge Moran.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch/4329589/Partner-asks-for-rapist-to-be-named

BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:42 pm
@firefly,
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I wonder if they know that necrophilia is also illegal?


As a matter of fact, it was not illegal in the state of Florida until only a few years ago.

This interesting fact only came to the attention of the lawmakers when a prosecutor found that he could not charge a gentleman for doing the deed with a dead person as no such law where then on the books in Florida.

A very amusing oversight indeed.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:45 pm
@firefly,
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They seem to be looking for excuses to have sex with unconscious women.

You seemed to have confused mutual desire with male excuse....or is it that you are so clueless as to not know that women sometimes want to be taken when they are not aware of their surroundings? Are you so clueless that you don't know that about 40% of women who are found to be with date rape drugs in their system (much more if you include alcohol) have put it there themselves on purpose? Are you so clueless that you are not aware of how many people like to be restrained during sex, or like to be driven to a near unconscious state with breath play?

I happen to think that you are aware of human sexual practices, but that you are not willing to acknowledge the practices as you move at the very same time to criminalize them. For damn sure you want to blame men for what goes on that you dont like, women are forced into these things against their will, or conditioned by the systemic abuse of women in the culture to participate in their own abuse by agreeing to and liking these practices that you want to banish...right??

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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:46 pm
@firefly,
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The couple had planned to get married in 2011, but the woman said her dreams had now been destroyed.


Now she will need to wait until 2018 to get married to the gentleman.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:47 pm
@firefly,
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Women do get raped by domestic partners. Men are not entitled to take what they want sexually, without the consent of the woman--even if they have been in a long term relationship. This woman wants the man's name made public, even if that will help to identify her.
Men do get raped by domestic partners. Women are not entitled to take what they want financially, without the consent of the man--even if they have been in a long term relationship. It is called divorce.

What is all this pretence of being concerned about rape ? Some women are tittilated by the thought of it...it takes away the deciding....never an easy process as their own demands for a man fluctuate during the month and again throughout the course of their lifetime. It emphasises male control and protection. Most women who are raped feel guilty that they are not as traumatised as non-rape victims want them to be.

Most rape victims are men and the crime never goes before the courts. Do people care about rape or just women ?
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:52 pm
@Ionus,
Please tell me you are being sarcastic? Seriously, "most women who are raped feel guilty that they are not as tramatised as non-rape victims want them to be."????????????????
Caroline
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:57 pm
@Ionus,
I've never heard of rape victims not being traumatized by it, where do you get your information please?

People care about not getting raped in answer to your question and the more it's reported the more it can be prevented right?
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:59 pm
@Arella Mae,
I am serious. Ever seen child birth portrayed on the screen ? Drama and bullshit galore.....same as rape. It is over dramatised and some women who survive the rape rather well feel guilty that they dont feel like its the end of the world. Some feel relief to have survived. Some sub-consciously think it will be good to cash in on this for sympathy. Most are devastated and have their confidence permanently damaged but the hysteria as portrayed by womens groups and the media just isnt there...this leaves most women feeling they arent normal which further compounds the damage done by the rape, all in the name of if the truth were told it might encourage men to rape, or worse still, damage the power of the women's movement.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:06 pm
@Ionus,
Until you are raped yourself, I don't think you can really speak for how any rape victim feels. I really find your post extremely offensive.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:22 pm
@Arella Mae,
That bozo is sounding too much like Hawkeye.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:26 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
I wonder if they know that necrophilia is also illegal?


As a matter of fact, it was not illegal in the state of Florida until only a few years ago.

This interesting fact only came to the attention of the lawmakers when a prosecutor found that he could not charge a gentleman for doing the deed with a dead person as no such law where then on the books in Florida.

A very amusing oversight indeed.



In Florida necrophilia is a second degree felony under chapter 872.06
As of 2006, it was the federal law that did not exist.

Rolling Eyes
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:29 pm
@Intrepid,
Intrepid wrote:

BillRM wrote:

Quote:
I wonder if they know that necrophilia is also illegal?


As a matter of fact, it was not illegal in the state of Florida until only a few years ago.

This interesting fact only came to the attention of the lawmakers when a prosecutor found that he could not charge a gentleman for doing the deed with a dead person as no such law where then on the books in Florida.

A very amusing oversight indeed.



In Florida necrophilia is a second degree felony under chapter 872.06
As of 2006, it was the federal law that did not exist.

Rolling Eyes
WHAT is the federal jurisdictional predicate for that ?????
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:29 pm
@Intrepid,
Intrepid wrote:

That bozo is sounding too much like Hawkeye.
Hard to believe there is more than one person that thinks that way, much less three.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:30 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Why ask me? You are supposed to be the lawyer.

It was so cold here today that I actually saw a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets!
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:31 pm
@Arella Mae,
How do you know they are different people?

Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:37 pm
@Arella Mae,
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Until you are raped yourself
I find your dismaissal of men being raped very selfish and egotistical. It is a violent crime that leaves people scared for life. It just doesnt have the deep drama you want it to, like you have seen on TV.
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I don't think you can really speak for how any rape victim feels
You have missed the point. I am speaking for most. It is impossible to speak for one.
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I really find your post extremely offensive.
I find your post extremely demanding for a level of protection that is unreasonable.
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Until you are raped yourself
Why have you assumed I havent been ? Is it a special club where you need indignation to join ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:37 pm
@Intrepid,
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That bozo is sounding too much like Hawkeye.
Your referencing is too obscure.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:38 pm
@Caroline,
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where do you get your information please?
Apologies for the delay...I am working on it.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:40 pm
@Intrepid,
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In Florida necrophilia is a second degree felony under chapter 872.06


I am aware it is the law now but if I remember reading the news stories correctly if was not just a few years ago.

Did you happen to checked the history of this law to find when it was enacted or not?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:41 pm
@Caroline,
Oops...missed the other parts...
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I've never heard of rape victims not being traumatized by it
There was one female officer who was captured and raped by the Iraqis in the First Gulf War. She maintained there was no lasting damage and there are worse things they can do to you.
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People care about not getting raped in answer to your question and the more it's reported the more it can be prevented right?
I dont know how helping the minority of rape victims (women) has anything to do with a serious program to address rape. Wouldnt it be better to address the majority first ?
 

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