US college closes door on ROTC, then welcomes Iranian PM

I have. What do you want to know?

I have been there as well, and seen what is and was going on...I am where i am now from being over there.. they are useless..

Iraqis? Yea, pretty much. I thought we were talking about who was arming who. In Fallujah we, and I am not exaggerrating, had an Egyptian rocket land 20m from us at an OP. We found AK variants from everywhere, mostly Bulgarian, Yugoslavian, Romanian and Egyptain hack jobs, Russian RPGs, American munitions. Blaming Iran for "arming the insurgents" is a smoke job to try justifing another war.

If you have spend anytime over there you would know the arabs are untrustable, there no telling where they are getting the ammo and weapons, but i guess it easy and the thing todo is blame the americans..right.

Campbell

You know very well that you are not correctly representing what Exodus 21 says . If you read it it seems to me that the man is fined for causing a miscarriage . It is the mothers health that seems important in this instance not the fetus. People should read Exodus 21 for themselves to find out. And besides campbell the bible also says that all sin is the same to God. And you know that is true. James 2 10-11 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, yet offend in one point, he is quilty of all.

But I just looked at what thread you have put this in.

Its obvious you do not like me and willing to speak of things not even remotely related to the thread whenever you disagree with me.

How about sticking to the topic of a thread?
You quote general Kofi Annan as being upset at something the President said in the past. Do you have a link?

I read the link you gave below for abc news about the weapons . You know the report does not list one person by Name Its all US officials ( no names) and sources say again ( no names) . I could sit down and write that same story and use no names and quote "sources"

[SIZE="4"] No names and sources say is exactly what got us into Iraq in the first place[/SIZE]

Campbell

You know very well that you are not correctly representing what Exodus 21 says . If you read it it seems to me that the man is fined for causing a miscarriage . It is the mothers health that seems important in this instance not the fetus. People should read Exodus 21 for themselves to find out. And besides campbell the bible also says that all sin is the same to God. And you know that is true. James 2 10-11 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, yet offend in one point, he is quilty of all.

But I just looked at what thread you have put this in.

Its obvious you do not like me and willing to speak of things not even remotely related to the thread whenever you disagree with me.

How about sticking to the topic of a thread?
You quote general Kofi Annan as being upset at something the President said in the past. Do you have a link?

I read the link you gave below for abc news about the weapons . You know the report does not list one person by Name Its all US officials ( no names) and sources say again ( no names) . I could sit down and write that same story and use no names and quote "sources"

[SIZE="4"] No names and sources say is exactly what got us into Iraq in the first place[/SIZE]

Just about every major dealer in arms has sold weapons that wound up in Iraq one way or another. But we know for a fact that the American government and private companies sold weapons to Saddam. The fact that US officials are pushing the admitted allegations so hard makes it all very suspect about their motives.

Just about every major dealer in arms has sold weapons that wound up in Iraq one way or another. But we know for a fact that the American government and private companies sold weapons to Saddam. The fact that US officials are pushing the admitted allegations so hard makes it all very suspect about their motives.

your right and they are still doing it today,but we can't blame it all on the Americans

..but iran is sending bombs, and men into iraq,and what gets to me, is what will iran do to iraq if America pulls out today,hint kill them, because of the iraq/iran war...

I don't blame Americans, I blame the arms companies, and politicians that allowed it in the first place.



That is an assumption. Fact is, no one knows what will happen if we leave, maybe Saudi, Kuwait, or even Israel will step up and help them out in their own interest. Politicians are manipulating the "what if"s? To keep the people on their side. They failed miserably at the fact game, so now they are trying to emo trip, "oh the poor Iraqis, they'll be slaughtered if we leave" Bullshit. They are trying to hide from the fact that WE have caused hundreds of thousands of deaths for no reason what so ever. "Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here!!" Seriously, does ANYONE believe that they will be over here fighting in the streets if we don't keep them fighting in Iraq? LOL.

and we havn't cause anything, anymore than the rest of the world,

and see that what i am talking about, when an american soldier reads crap like this "we have cause thousands of deaths for NO reason"they are thinking "why in the hell do we even bother risking our lifes for people that don't give a rats ass about us"...a soldier only does what his/her country ask them to..

What exactly are you smoking? WE STARTED A ******* WAR IN THEIR COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




An American soldier wrote this "crap". No one I was there with wanted to be there, none I was there with gave two shits about Iraqis. We all wanted to fight our hardest, and get home in one piece, screw Iraq, screw Iraqis, screw politics. Every portashitter in the country has the phrase "If Bush had to serve, this war would be over" written in it.

NO we ******* didn't, iraq start by killing and raping the people of kuwait, and than wouldn't follow the rules of war,..so we AND other counties jump their asses, point blankand while you using a port-a-shittier, I was craping in the iraq sand while watching the woman and childern of kuwait getting rape and killed by the so-call army of iraq...scouts don't sit in the rear with the gear..

**** were did I say anything about 911, this war had nothing to do with 911, and everything to do with NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES OF WAR..

NO we ***ing didn't, iraq start by killing and raping the people of kuwait, and than wouldn't follow the rules of war,..so we AND other counties jump their asses, point blankand while you using a port-a-****tier, I was craping in the iraq sand while watching the woman and childern of kuwait getting rape and killed by the so-call army of iraq...scouts don't sit in the rear with the gear..

That was DESERT STORM. You're losing it.

Good posts campbell with good links.

Now its obvious you and I do not see eye to eye on Abortion.

I believe through biblical study that God sends the soul to inhabit the body when the first breath is taken , just as the soul returns to God when the last breath is taken and we die.

You believe something else. Let me ask you then. What do you think about birth control? Isn't it pretty obvious that birth control is stopping humans from being born that would have otherwise been born had not birth control been used? Do you believe people sin. Men when they use condom's and women when they take the pill? Had they not used birth control the world would likely be double the population it is now or close to double. Thats a lot of people that were not born due to birth control. What do you think God thinks of birth control? And what are your personal feelings about birth control? PM me if you don't want to keep highjacking this thread. Or at least lets ask whomever started it if they mind us discussing this here.


The links you gave say a lot of things. Including the fact that Kofi Annam will be going to Iran in a couple of weeks to negotiate.

Good for Kofi Annan. Anything is worth a try.

Let me make a statement and see what you think of it.

I believe the world would be a better place if the United States completely changed its foreign policy . I believe if the United States stop occupying countries and took their troops out of the 100 plus bases they have them in around the world, the entire world would be a better place.

I believe the world would be a better place if all religious zealots followed the tenants of their faiths. Doesn't matter Christians , Muslims, Jews. if all would read their holy books and do as they say the world would be a much better place. Religious Zealots have killed more people down through the centuries that all the righteous wars combined. So I believe the world would be a much better place if we could stop religious zealots. The kind that want to spread their religion at the point of a gun.


What do you think of the above statements campbell?

Good posts campbell with good links.

Now its obvious you and I do not see eye to eye on Abortion.

I believe through biblical study that God sends the soul to inhabit the body when the first breath is taken , just as the soul returns to God when the last breath is taken and we die.

You believe something else. Let me ask you then. What do you think about birth control? Isn't it pretty obvious that birth control is stopping humans from being born that would have otherwise been born had not birth control been used? Do you believe people sin. Men when they use condom's and women when they take the pill? Had they not used birth control the world would likely be double the population it is now or close to double. Thats a lot of people that were not born due to birth control. What do you think God thinks of birth control? And what are your personal feelings about birth control? PM me if you don't want to keep highjacking this thread. Or at least lets ask whomever started it if they mind us discussing this here.


The links you gave say a lot of things. Including the fact that Kofi Annam will be going to Iran in a couple of weeks to negotiate.

Good for Kofi Annan. Anything is worth a try.

Let me make a statement and see what you think of it.

I believe the world would be a better place if the United States completely changed its foreign policy . I believe if the United States stop occupying countries and took their troops out of the 100 plus bases they have them in around the world, the entire world would be a better place.

I believe the world would be a better place if all religious zealots followed the tenants of their faiths. Doesn't matter Christians , Muslims, Jews. if all would read their holy books and do as they say the world would be a much better place. Religious Zealots have killed more people down through the centuries that all the righteous wars combined. So I believe the world would be a much better place if we could stop religious zealots. The kind that want to spread their religion at the point of a gun.


What do you think of the above statements campbell?