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Christian Homeland

 
 
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2007 03:01 pm
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;25167 wrote:
Yes, but like I intimated previously, we do whatever is necessary at that moment, anticipating the best possible result. But international politics is an ever changing entity taking on a life of its own. Sound judgment one day may result in future disaster. But it is not for us to take pot shots at the persons making those decisions - they are doing so on our behalf and, I truly believe, in the best interest of the free world. In the end, they are just men. As an example, who could have anticipated that Iran would take 50 hostages during the Carter presidency only to see them released on the first day of Ronald Reagan's outstanding run? Hindsight is an easy critic. I have known men strongly in favor of the death penalty cry at death verdicts handed down on juries they served on. Point is, you have absolutely no idea of what you would do when actually faced with a monumental decision until it is before you. Hope it never happens, but if it does, I hope you have the courage and the will to make the "right" decision in the face of those in your charge.


it dont make it right backing and funding people they knew were dictators or evil,i think the USA has meddled to much in other countries affairs ian,but then thats just my opinion.
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2007 03:07 pm
@Pinochet73,
It does, if, at that moment, we held common enemies.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2007 05:41 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25156 wrote:
nixon toasted a loyal friend and fascist dictator,who overthrew an elected government :thumbdown: the USA the great bastion of democracy and the land of the free :thumbdown:


Sometimes we must do what's right for a people when they don't know what it is themselves. This sounds arrogant, but it's true. Who in his right mind would actually want to live under Communism? Who in his right mind would choose a government, one-third of which was anarchist, and had murdered Catholic priests in large numbers, while struggling to come to power? Any election that produced that kind of public behavior would be either fraudulent, or the work of devious propagandists.
:no:
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2007 05:43 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25168 wrote:
it dont make it right backing and funding people they knew were dictators or evil,i think the USA has meddled to much in other countries affairs ian,but then thats just my opinion.


And what about England, the most industrialized and imperialist of all countries in the 19th Century, that which, at one point, controlled roughly 72% of the Earth's surface? :thumbup:
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2007 09:30 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;25174 wrote:
And what about England, the most industrialized and imperialist of all countries in the 19th Century, that which, at one point, controlled roughly 72% of the Earth's surface? :thumbup:


i totally agree with you on that pino,we had the cheek to call the indigenous people savages and terrorists,when it was their land,and the english/british didnt like it when the idigenous population,wanted a say in the running of the country or independence from their imperialistic masters.
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scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2007 09:37 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;25173 wrote:
Sometimes we must do what's right for a people when they don't know what it is themselves. This sounds arrogant, but it's true. Who in his right mind would actually want to live under Communism? Who in his right mind would choose a government, one-third of which was anarchist, and had murdered Catholic priests in large numbers, while struggling to come to power? Any election that produced that kind of public behavior would be either fraudulent, or the work of devious propagandists.
:no:


pino i think you will find it wasnt just communists,that muredered priests,the fascists in latin/south america murdered priests and nuns,as for who would want to live under communism,who would want to live under fascism and all its fraudulent and devious propagandists,it works both ways.
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2007 11:03 am
@Pinochet73,
Communism, fascism, socialism, pick an ism - I have no need for any of them.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2007 11:38 am
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25226 wrote:
pino i think you will find it wasnt just communists,that muredered priests,the fascists in latin/south america murdered priests and nuns,as for who would want to live under communism,who would want to live under fascism and all its fraudulent and devious propagandists,it works both ways.


That's not the issue. The issue is that Franco's opponents were as bad as him, if not worse.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2007 12:14 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;25256 wrote:
That's not the issue. The issue is that Franco's opponents were as bad as him, if not worse.


franco overthrew an elected government,down with democracy,when it suits you :thumbdown:
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2007 01:14 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25226 wrote:
pino i think you will find it wasnt just communists,that muredered priests,the fascists in latin/south america murdered priests and nuns,as for who would want to live under communism,who would want to live under fascism and all its fraudulent and devious propagandists,it works both ways.


In Spain at that time, the 'isms' to which SoCal referred took on the quality of mean-spiritted, hard-edged political factionalism that produced war in the streets. The Nationalists won, at heavy cost in human rights and civil liberties. Nonetheless, they held the country together, and stewarded it through WWII, without getting Spain too involved. Let it be a lesson to crazy liberals the world over. THERE ARE LIMITS TO YOUR MADNESS. :no:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2007 01:16 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25263 wrote:
franco overthrew an elected government,down with democracy,when it suits you :thumbdown:


And that democracy was hideously inept and leading the country straight down the toilet. Sometimes Caesar is right.:headbang:
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2007 07:24 pm
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25263 wrote:
franco overthrew an elected government,down with democracy,when it suits you :thumbdown:


Down with genocide, unless it was commited by people who were 'democratically elected.':thumbdown:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2007 06:46 am
@Pinochet73,
Yeah, democracy produced Hamas. Good job, Democracy. Good job.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 07:52 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;25272 wrote:
And that democracy was hideously inept and leading the country straight down the toilet. Sometimes Caesar is right.:headbang:


thats your opinion pino,it wasnt the opinion of the electorate,franco was a dictator.
scooby-doo cv
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 07:54 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;25314 wrote:
Yeah, democracy produced Hamas. Good job, Democracy. Good job.


pino,if you lived in the gaza strip,there would be a good chance you would have voted for hamas.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 08:46 am
@scooby-doo cv,
scooby-doo;25168 wrote:
it dont make it right backing and funding people they knew were dictators or evil,i think the USA has meddled to much in other countries affairs ian,but then thats just my opinion.
I have to say something on this one.

So are in meddling in our affairs, it would appear so. Your not American, yet you find our policy offensive, offencive enough to take action? You sir have a double standard, which in my book makes you words worth just about as much as. Why is it ok for you and not for us? This one aut to be good!
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 08:49 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;25173 wrote:
Sometimes we must do what's right for a people when they don't know what it is themselves. This sounds arrogant, but it's true. Who in his right mind would actually want to live under Communism? Who in his right mind would choose a government, one-third of which was anarchist, and had murdered Catholic priests in large numbers, while struggling to come to power? Any election that produced that kind of public behavior would be either fraudulent, or the work of devious propagandists.
:no:
He's just as arrogant as we. Where is he posting and about what? Meddling is probably one if his finer suits, LOL.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 09:52 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;25450 wrote:
I have to say something on this one.

So are in meddling in our affairs, it would appear so. Your not American, yet you find our policy offensive, offencive enough to take action? You sir have a double standard, which in my book makes you words worth just about as much as. Why is it ok for you and not for us? This one aut to be good!


Yeah.....Scoob's a typically liberal European: obsessed with criticizing the United States because it's the last powerful country on Earth with a strong sense of right versus wrong. He hates the very idea of any country having so much power. He lives in a dead empire, which stopped believing in anything concrete long ago. He's the ultimate relativist. He believes literally in nothing, and resents those who have strong, traditionally Western values. To him, we are criminals against humanity. While I like Scoob, I loathe the world from which he comes. I see it every time I go back to Colorado Springs, CO -- that disgusting liberal credo that argues against anything traditionally Western, and promotes every form of debauchery known to Man. It stinks of weakness, sinfulness, and self-destruction. Europe is doomed. It has deliberately transformed itself into a human cesspool. Screw it, hard. :thumbdown:
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 09:55 am
@Pinochet73,
THE UNITED STATES MUST LOOK TO LATIN AMERICA AS ITS FUTURE PARTNER IN EMPIRE-BUILDING. EUROPE HAS BETRAYED ITS OWN HERITAGE, AND DESERVES THE FATE THAT SLOWLY ENGULFS IT TODAY -- ISLAMIC CONQUEST. Have fun, Europe, living under Sharia Law. You're gonna hate that crap worse than you ever did the United States. European women: get ready to be sent back to the Dark Ages. Ha-ha.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2007 10:35 am
@Pinochet73,
Like i said before as STNGfan said. "Praise be Allah and Muhammid his messenger."
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