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A glimpse into the future? Barak Obama?

 
 
Soccrmastr
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 04:51 pm
@mousy,
I can see it already.....

A schoolchild is returning home from school wearing his swastika-like branded uniform, and he will turn and see a police vehicle screaming out pro-Barack propaganda over the megaphone. The boy hurries home before the 7 o clock curfew begins, punishment being imprisonment if found wandering after it begins.
He gets home, and hugs his parents, and greets his brothers and sisters. The boys family consists of the two parents, one brother, himself, and two sisters, the maximum allowed by the government. They all are watching one of the many government controlled TV stations, all pushing one agenda and one idea. One of these stations being CNN, officially re-branded as the Communist News Network.
The family locks all the doors and windows before retreating into the basement together. The children clear away a mound of socialist reading material, some of the only books not censored or banned, to reveal a makeshift chapel with a chipped statue of The Virgin Mary, and a very old Bible with a broken binding. The basement of their own house is the only place they are able to practice their faith without openly professing it. Obama has banned all religions except Islam, mainly because of his own atheist beliefs and his families background with Islam. After a half hour of prayers, the family returns to watching the television.

This is just a start, I dont have time to finish it but this is pretty much what life will be like if many generations of Barack's and far left nutjobs win.
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 08:04 pm
@Soccrmastr,
BARACK OBAMA IS NOT ISLAMIC! Technically by law he may be (because his father was) but he doesn't practice it. And also im not saying that Islam is the best religion in the world but hating everyone and fearing everyone in it is a big mistake in my oppinion.
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 08:13 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;13228 wrote:
Playing the Race Card again, IAADB? So, anyone who critically analyzes Obama Bin Laden as a presidential candidate is a 'racist'? Your irrational responses only prove my point. He's a shoe-in for VP only because he's Black, thanks to emotional hotheads like yourself. As long as I am American, I'll criticize anybody I damned well please, and I'll put up with the criticism of my enemies. That's called FREEDOM OF SPEECH -- something you Marxists have hated and feared since the beginning of your campaign of terror against humanity.


I dont mean to be your enemy. I mean to be your opposite. I disagree with many of your oppinions but still i do not hate you. But about the free speach I AM NOT TRYING TO DENY IT TO YOU. I express free speech very much and i think that if that right is every taken away from us, that america will fail. You should be able to rant about the government in whatever way you want (or any person for that matter) but as long as you are doing it in a appropiate way. If you hated Alberto Gonzalez you have all the right to make comments about his department but not to say call him a beaner. Do u see what i am getting at at all?

(by the way after looking at your statement about obama and the black thing i semi agree with it. I think many people will vote for him because they want to be part of history for electing the first black president. However i still think he could do some good things for america)
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sectionOne
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 01:05 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY!;13185 wrote:
That is a very racist and unfair thing to say. What if someone were to say "I dont like Sam Brownback because he is a christian." Everyone would be offended and everyone shoould be offended for saying you dont like somone because of thier religion.


difference between Christian and Muslim.
1. Islam is political and religious. they are not seperate. ever hear of Sharia Law?
2. CHristians believe in pluralism. Islam does not.
3. non-muslims are considered the infidel. all of them.
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sectionOne
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 01:06 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY!;13370 wrote:
BARACK OBAMA IS NOT ISLAMIC! Technically by law he may be (because his father was) but he doesn't practice it. And also im not saying that Islam is the best religion in the world but hating everyone and fearing everyone in it is a big mistake in my oppinion.


once Islamic, always Islamic. you cannot leave the religion ever.
practicing it doesn't matter, it doesn't work like that.
furthermore, Islam is quite dangerous.
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 05:01 pm
@sectionOne,
sectionOne;13516 wrote:
once Islamic, always Islamic. you cannot leave the religion ever.
practicing it doesn't matter, it doesn't work like that.
furthermore, Islam is quite dangerous.


so if technically by law you are islamic but your dont believe in islam then youre just as bad and crazy as those "DEATH TO AMERICA!" extremists?
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 07:19 pm
@mousy,
"also im not saying that Islam is the best religion in the world but hating everyone and fearing everyone in it is a big mistake in my oppinion."

Remember 911.
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 07:26 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;13576 wrote:
Remember 911.


I do remember 911. Are you blaming it on the islamic religion? Im not saying that it has the lovliest buncha folks coming out of it but im saying that people generalize and hate to much. Many of the terrorists are Islamic but that doesnt mean every Islam is.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 10:20 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY!;13579 wrote:
I do remember 911. Are you blaming it on the islamic religion? Im not saying that it has the lovliest buncha folks coming out of it but im saying that people generalize and hate to much. Many of the terrorists are Islamic but that doesnt mean every Islam is.
It would be more proper if you used Muslim instead of Islam/Islamic. Just a suggestion.
sectionOne
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2007 12:39 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY!;13545 wrote:
so if technically by law you are islamic but your dont believe in islam then youre just as bad and crazy as those "DEATH TO AMERICA!" extremists?


"extremists" is a term invented by the US because we can't understand the concept that muslims will die and kill for their religion.

and it's more like, if you leave the religion the sentence (yes, it's law) is death.
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sectionOne
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2007 12:40 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;13614 wrote:
It would be more proper if you used Muslim instead of Islam/Islamic. Just a suggestion.


a muslim is someone who is islamic because they are part of islam.
but we knew what he meant.
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IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2007 05:25 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;13614 wrote:
It would be more proper if you used Muslim instead of Islam/Islamic. Just a suggestion.



I do remember 911. Are you blaming it on the muslim religion? Im not saying that it has the lovliest buncha folks coming out of it but im saying that people generalize and hate to much. Many of the terrorists are Muslim but that doesnt mean every Muslim is?
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Wed 25 Apr, 2007 07:11 pm
@mousy,
Hooaah.
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sectionOne
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 08:16 am
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY!;13687 wrote:
I do remember 911. Are you blaming it on the muslim religion? Im not saying that it has the lovliest buncha folks coming out of it but im saying that people generalize and hate to much. Many of the terrorists are Muslim but that doesnt mean every Muslim is?


the ideology of Islam is what drove Muslims to attack the US.
war was declared and this group has vowed to destroy non-muslims of the West. this ideology comes from the Quran and is the force behind over 8000 Islamic acts of terrorism since 911.

how big do you think Al Qaeda is?
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markx15
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 12:49 pm
@mousy,
Strange that Islam has been around for centuries and they only now found the time to attack us non-muslims folk, do you really believe Islam is behind this? If we looked hard enough and were lenient on our interpretations I bet we could find due justification in the Bible to launch a holy war against the muslims. Yes the Q'uran has words of violence, why shouldn't it? Arn't you saying that you are willing to defend yourself at all costs, and they shouldn't why? Al Qaeda has about 3-5 thousand troops if I'm not mistaken.
sectionOne
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 01:22 pm
@markx15,
markx15;13790 wrote:
Strange that Islam has been around for centuries and they only now found the time to attack us non-muslims folk, do you really believe Islam is behind this? If we looked hard enough and were lenient on our interpretations I bet we could find due justification in the Bible to launch a holy war against the muslims. Yes the Q'uran has words of violence, why shouldn't it? Arn't you saying that you are willing to defend yourself at all costs, and they shouldn't why? Al Qaeda has about 3-5 thousand troops if I'm not mistaken.


there have been millions killed in Islamic conflict in the last 100 years. 8000 attacks since 911. yes, 8000+. transborder violence has become more abundant because.... of transborder transportation. so it's not a new thing.

there are 30 training camps in Afghanistan with 3-5 thousand each. there are 30 sleep cells in UK that the British government doesn't have surveilance on. there is also the same amount in Germany and Italy. there are 100,000 suicide bombers that signed up in Iran to carry out attacks. that's about 191,000 right there. add sleepers in the US and military in Islamic countries and there's another 500,000. add militants in Africa who kill on a daily basis in Islamic conflict and there is another 100,000 or so.
this is not a little group of extremists who want to blow away a couple of tall buildings in NYC, this is well organized, well educated, very violent and large in numbers.
and yes, they all share the same idealogy.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 01:34 pm
@markx15,
Quote:
Strange that Islam has been around for centuries and they only now found the time to attack us non-muslims folk, do you really believe Islam is behind this?


Islam didn't spread past Saudi Arabia or even through Saudi Arabia itself peacefully. In fact, it was basically mostly in Medina where peaceful converts were found. The rest was by war, Mecca, Egypt, North Africa, Iberian Peninsula, Holy Lands, former Byzantine Empire lands like Nicaea, etc. in modern day Turkey, everything. Even Mohammed himself participated greatly.

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If we looked hard enough and were lenient on our interpretations I bet we could find due justification in the Bible to launch a holy war against the muslims.


I think this statement has zero weight without proof. I can't see how. The Koran explicitly implies Muslims to attack existing groups, not just thousand year old destroyed ones.

Quote:
the Q'uran has words of violence, why shouldn't it? Arn't you saying that you are willing to defend yourself at all costs, and they shouldn't why?


The violence of the Koran is agressive in many ways.
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markx15
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 03:15 pm
@mousy,
So Christians had a right to conquer their holy lands, and the Muslims don't? The early Hebrews completly destroyed what they found in local religions, the Catholic Church obviously thought this was a good tactic as they continued to do so through great periods of time, to great sucess. Does being God's chosen people justify this behaviour, or does this make them into God's chosen?
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markx15
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 03:18 pm
@mousy,
Quote:
there are 30 training camps in Afghanistan with 3-5 thousand each. there are 30 sleep cells in UK that the British government doesn't have surveilance on. there is also the same amount in Germany and Italy. there are 100,000 suicide bombers that signed up in Iran to carry out attacks. that's about 191,000 right there. add sleepers in the US and military in Islamic countries and there's another 500,000. add militants in Africa who kill on a daily basis in Islamic conflict and there is another 100,000 or so.
this is not a little group of extremists who want to blow away a couple of tall buildings in NYC, this is well organized, well educated, very violent and large in numbers.
and yes, they all share the same idealogy.


Wow I wasn't aware that they were so extensive, could you be bothered to present a source? I only found statistics in the 3-5 thousand area...
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markx15
 
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Reply Thu 26 Apr, 2007 03:21 pm
@mousy,
Quote:
there have been millions killed in Islamic conflict in the last 100 years. 8000 attacks since 911. yes, 8000+. transborder violence has become more abundant because.... of transborder transportation. so it's not a new thing.


How old is Islam? It seems to me they that they went through a pattern similar to christianity, first they spread peacefully, then with the sword were words weren't enough, and after conquering a big foundation of converts God is satisfied for the time being, has it come the time again to spread the word of God by the sword?
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