Why are Atheists so Scary?

Why don't you get it through your thick abusive head, I'm not expressing anger ,Im remarking on your constant arrogant remarks, your personal abuse of characters, not the questions they posed. You cant help yourself , you never stop attacking others. You make snide personal remarks and think they have merit, be off with you...you offensive bully.

I might just be the third Salima. I believe it possible that evolution is creation and we cant be privy to who or what this creative ability is. Nature created life but who created natures ability?

salima wrote:

i think this is a reverse generalization. we all know that atheists are not going to believe in creationism...but theists could believe in either creationism or evolution. so hence the wish to make clear that being a theist is not necessarily swallowing all the dogma connected to religion.

hmm...is there a third alternative?

I think it is possible to be a theist and not believe that a god was behind the creation of the universe. One possibility is that the god just believes that it caused it but really it is mistaken. I don't actually make up this idea, i actually got it from a Buddhist sutra. A far less known sutra the Buddha talks about how gods, wrapped up in their own ego will believe that they are behind the workings of phenomenal things because of their mentality. The reason they do it, is due to their internal conflict as a way to leverage themselves into a position of greatness undeserved. He even sites some gods that actually believe themselves to be the creators of certain humanistic qualities and because of it, they will fall back into lower realms of existence. I really don't actually believe in the sutra but im using it as an aspect to my point that a god could foolishly believe that it created something but didn't actually do it.

I agree. I am not an expert at dispelling fear of the irrational. I'm usually tolerant... of the fear.

I think this would be a lot more frustrating if a poster was irrational and somehow proud of their fear or thought it to be sacred.

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(more flies with honey than vinegar and all that)

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I agree. I am not an expert at dispelling fear of the irrational. I'm usually tolerant... of the fear.

I think this would be a lot more frustrating if a poster was irrational and somehow proud of their fear or thought it to be sacred.

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Well, I guess it seems to me the poster doesn't want to have the fear....and I think irrational and untrue beliefs about groups of people to be extremely dangerous, speaking of human civilisation generally, so I applaud his efforts to dispel it.

I was irritated by stuff like "why are atheists so scary" and "atheists don't give to charity" and atheists don't have love or joy or kindness etc. Don't you think those are scary beliefs and it is good to debunk them?

It's probably gooder to debunk them in a charming and honey-coated way (more flies with honey than vinegar and all that).

I think you are more tolerant than I anyway. Maybe too much of my tolerance gets used up at work? And a lot of my work IS about dispelling fear of, or the awful effects of, irrational beliefs. (You know, stuff like "It was my fault grandpa abused me" and "It happened because I am bad and deserved it" and "I'm a bad dirty girl/boy", all that sort of stuff.)

It is not colloquial modern English to speak of "familiar spirits," nor to say to someone "be off with you." It is silly and pretentious, however.

Why don't you enter into the debate rather than take this silly superior attitude. No one asked us to enter into this one liner dominated forum and no one demanded you partake of this thread. We have familiar spirits here that we understand, so be off with you and leave us to our musing.

I'm with you there, philosophy really can be anything, its universal in its avenues, you can take it any which way with just a smidget of logic. You are right, we are destroying ourselves being authoratative but then again, humans are intellectual beings and part of knowing or learning is attaining information from a source so those in a way are rules that your following. Why do we put such philosophers as socrates and kant in high regard if in reality, we really could simply dismiss all there works?