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Why are Atheists so Scary?

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:02 pm
Then there's this as a generalization:

"I did not mean to elude that atheists do not give to charity, I merely meant the average person who does not believe in God hardly gives to charity."
What?
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:04 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun wrote:

Just quickly before I bow out for the evening I have time to just say that, maybe you should define who you mean when you talk about atheists when you say you know so many of them, would they know what an atheist is?
And the fact I said masses meant that I was not labeling all atheists as uncharitable, I was addressing the fact there may be many people who do not believe in god and do not speak about god and do not give to charity but are only generally considered atheists from such and such a reason because they do not believe in God not because they call them selves atheists.
Better put, I think someone who is intelligently enlightened gives to charity, atheists are generally intelligent.
I think someone who doe snot give to charity if they can may well be unintelligent, there are a lot of people who are considered atheistic who just simply do not believe in God and simply do not give to charity. Masses.
So by what I understood you saying is that all the people you know are atheists, which unless you study with them are your general circle of friends.
Masses, they are not to mind even atheists unless they say so and know what it is they call them selves.
I did not mean to elude that atheists do not give to charity, I merely meant the average person who does not believe in God hardly gives to charity.
That is what I meant, so I do know what at least I am talking about, I seem to know what you are talking about also,
who's got the problem here? me for not explaining myself properly or you for not giving me any benefit of the doubt?



Huh? It's not rocket science. An atheist is someone who believes there are no gods.

Good grief.

You're adding nonsense to nonsense on the charity thing. Give up while you are behind.

I can't decipher the rest of your post. I assume English is not your first language, so you may wish to try that post again when you are calmer.




sometime sun
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:05 pm
@edgarblythe,
I am truly saddened that I may have in any way or form offended you.
But to be the child here, You pushed me first.
You are not serious by saying it was out of the blue, read your first post to me again. And see there if nothing is amiss
I gave you the benefit of my doubt after you had shamed me in public, I asked you where your creative side was when making an assault upon me,
sorry if that sound like an exaggeration but that is what it felt like.
How do you think it sounds when you hear someone say to someone they don't agree with "I feel sorry for you", and be thanked for it no less,
I opened a thread in all good conscience to find if there were any atheists who would try to sooth my fears, to help me understand, to show me some compassion, not provoke the negative stereotype I am holding onto.
Even in my thread I gave you most of the benefit of the doubt and welcomed your input, I did not just think that religious people would visit this.
How were you doing any thing other than compounding fears?
Fears I may add I think I was pretty brave in actually voicing, although definitely ignorantly as I had no idea the hail storm it would bring on me.

So just in case any one thinks I meant this;
I do not nor ever have thought atheists were a justifiable fear.
Nor do I think they are deserving of my fear. (not a put down)

But forgive me if I am found regularly intimidated by them.

Again I am sorry I have offended you it is not my life's work to do such things.
And I know it is weak to say this but it is all I have;
You hurt me first.
It does not excuse me but I don't think because you are now hurt you are also excused.
Sorry,
IT WONT HAPPEN AGAIN
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:06 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

This may seem odd but I find sometimesun to be full of love and no hate and does not mean to offend anyone. He is like the rest of us trying to find our way


Yes....that is why I asked about the background.

He is offensive with no intent, it seems.

But still pretty damned offensive.

dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:07 pm
@sometime sun,
No...wittingly or unwittingly, YOU were offensive first. I assume in ignorance...but you need to be told how offensive others experience you to be.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:09 pm
@dlowan,
dlowan wrote:
I can't decipher the rest of your post. I assume English is not your first language, so you may wish to try that post again when you are calmer.


there is definitely some kind of lost in translation thing going on

language? culture?

I am definitely curious.
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:10 pm
@ehBeth,
Indeed.

I want to know so I can be fairer.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:16 pm
@sometime sun,
Please Sometime sun and all others give each others a chance and try to reframe from being offensive. If your intent is to be true and find understanding.
I can tell you for a fact that I do not understand all of this and I also find myself acting out in ways that I regret and try to fix later I guess what I am trying to say is that I can see my own ignorance after the fact at times. How much better off I would be if I could see it at the time it was happening and correct it before I lost my better judgement.
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Twirlip
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:28 pm
@dlowan,
Listen to the sound of sometime sun marching at the head of his mighty all-conquering army!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIIMmUTfAo4
Watch as the mighty all-conquering army steps nimbly aside to avoid treading on a small fly!

Know that there is no escape from his Snow Brigade; know also that there is nothing to fear. Very Happy
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:31 pm
@Twirlip,
Got too bored. Is it relevant?
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Twirlip
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:31 pm
@dlowan,
Listen to the sound of sometime sun marching at the head of his mighty all-conquering army!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIIMmUTfAo4

Watch as the mighty all-conquering army steps nimbly aside to avoid treading on a small fly!

Know that there is no escape from his Snow Brigade; know also that there is nothing to fear.

Music hath charms ... (I hope).
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:33 pm
@dlowan,
I find many of his posts to be full of angst and am also curious as to age and background to better understand where it comes from.
Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:38 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun wrote:
One; I am terrified of their truth taking away mine Truth.

What do you mean by "my truth" vs. "their truth"? There is only one truth, and we atheists can't take it away any more than the Grinch can steal Christmas.

sometime sun wrote:
Two; They always seem so angry and anger terrifies me as well.

Always? How many atheists are you counting in this thread? How many of them would you characterize as "angry"?
chai2
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 07:57 pm
There are some angry athetists out there, and until recently I could never understand why.

Then, I was listening to the radio, and someone (an antheist) said how insulting it was to be told something like "there are no atheists in foxholes"

I thought "you're right, what a bunch of malarky." It's saying that someone will cave in and crave the succor of a god. That they have been weak all along, and finally come to their senses.

I would imagine an atheist hearing that being said as if it was a given is the same as I used to feel when people would tell me I would want children if only I had one.
The only reason I don't feel disgruntled any more is because I'm too old to have them...now I just have to listen to the occassional person say "oh...well that's all right" when they ask if I have children, and I say no.

Atheists are just people...believers are just people. We are all the same.

There is a truth out there, no one has it taken away or given. It's there either way, whatever it is.

To me, it's not important anymore what the truth is, because, well, it is what it is, and believing one way or the other won't change it.

But, my beliefs are important, to me.
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 08:06 pm
@Thomas,
I'm starting to get grumpy.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 08:09 pm
@dlowan,
Grumpy Grrls R Us
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failures art
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 08:43 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun wrote:

Why are Atheists so scary?

We're so sexy because our parents made us that way.

sometime sun wrote:

They scare me.

I'm sorry.

sometime sun wrote:

I have rationalised this into at least two positions. (more to come when I think on)

Good that you share?

sometime sun wrote:

One; I am terrified of their truth taking away mine Truth.

A seemingly normal response. We all hold our beliefs to be scared and special. Having them challenged is uncomfortable. However, to the point of your question, you want to find out why Atheists scare you so much. This question won't help you find the answer because other theists are just as able to challenge your beliefs.

This is a legitimate fear, but not a unique one to Atheists.

sometime sun wrote:

Two; They always seem so angry and anger terrifies me as well.

Can you qualify how an Atheist is angrier than an non-Atheist? Atheists experience the full spectrum of human emotion, and that includes anger. Should an atheist displaying anger be more extraordinary than a religious person?

What experience with atheists has lead you to the conclusion that we are angry people?

Atheist.
R
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failures art
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 08:44 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

atheists are scary, I avoid looking in the mirror.
Good policy.

A
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 09:22 pm
@dlowan,
Tis a philosophy thread, people. You know, where you pose a question for others to ponder, where there is no need to seek out one's background, where you just toss ideas around, where you set aside your homeboy slouch and discuss.

Chai2 stated outright that there are some angry atheists out there. I don't see the locals demanding to know her background or questioning her "offensiveness".
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jun, 2010 09:28 pm
@sometime sun,
Quote:
Two; They always seem so angry and anger terrifies me as well.


You almost have to believe in evolution to be an atheist and it should surprise nobody that atheists are angry over the job which real scientists are starting to do on evolution and evoloserism. Takes away their psychic security blanket...
 

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