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Does free will exist?

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Albuquerque
 
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Tue 26 Jan, 2021 05:08 am
@Jasper10,
I spend my time seeing all kinds of stuff...I am a stuffed up man!
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Jasper10
 
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Tue 26 Jan, 2021 05:44 am
@Albuquerque,
Third clip......it's about taking a balanced view of each reasoning....these reasonings will try to convince you that SELF doesn't exist....They will also try to convince you that you need to search for PROOF of God's existence OR non-existence.

One has the choice to reject both reasonings because they also confirm the possibility that SELF is separate from reasonings.One should not discount this possibility.
Jasper10
 
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Tue 26 Jan, 2021 09:31 am
@Jasper10,
Think of a quantum type computer with reasonings....i.e. 0 and 1 BOTH sides of the fence at the same time.
popeye1945
 
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Tue 26 Jan, 2021 09:38 pm
@Albuquerque,
Albuquerque, So your saying the source of one's free will is at a subconscious level, then by what means do you know this. Personally, I think everything after the big bang is just compound reaction, a long and unknowable history of reactions. If one has no idea of the vast level of causes that have determined your present actions, speak to me again of freewill.
Jasper10
 
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Wed 27 Jan, 2021 05:51 am
@Jasper10,
When one seeks within one divides right from left.One needs to take each side separately and then divide again.One can then keep the balance and keep ones choice as well.
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Albuquerque
 
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Wed 27 Jan, 2021 06:44 am
@popeye1945,
No I am saying that volition, not free anything, it FIRST passes through a subconscious level!
I guess you got that wrong to.

...as for the "origin" which makes no sense from GR, the best it can be said to explain and dismiss pseudo emergence is that "cause" comes from the far future! But then again that is a conversation for another day...
popeye1945
 
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Wed 27 Jan, 2021 08:09 am
@Albuquerque,
Albuquerque, It is true that voilion arises out of the subconscious much like the fact that a person does not know what his/her next thought is going to be. The almost limitless preconditions determining one's actions should make it obvious that VOLITION is unconscious. The fact that the brain registers the intent before one becomes conscious of it, kind of seals the deal.
Leadfoot
 
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Wed 27 Jan, 2021 09:44 am
@popeye1945,
So you think the brain is the ultimate slot machine.
I must be one lucky SOB.
What'd you get for your last nickel ?
popeye1945
 
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Wed 27 Jan, 2021 01:20 pm
@Leadfoot,
Leadfoot, DUH!!
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Albuquerque
 
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Wed 27 Jan, 2021 06:18 pm
@Leadfoot,
The slot machine is rigged and your last nickel was already paid you just don't know it yet. You got what you could.
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Jasper10
 
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Fri 4 Nov, 2022 05:01 am
@Diogenes phil,
I would suggest that there is a decision to be made on the left or the right but not in the middle.
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htam9876
 
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Fri 4 Nov, 2022 02:26 pm
Piggy always says, sometimes DREAM might be a good thing. At least the pig has no nice DREAM at night for many years. Guys can DREAM freely.
https://img.zcool.cn/community/01ae635dd385bba8012129e26938db.gif
A physicist is a bit different from a philosopher.
What a physicist cares is how to solve specific problem.
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Agent Smith
 
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Mon 14 Nov, 2022 11:36 am
Sorry folks, we have free will!
steve reid
 
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Mon 14 Nov, 2022 01:29 pm
@Agent Smith,
I sincerely hope that you are right Agent Smith, but I fear we don't have free will

I believe everything is cause and effect including the workings of the brain

The/My perception of free will is a convincing illusion
The Anointed
 
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Mon 14 Nov, 2022 05:23 pm
@Agent Smith,
Quote:
Sorry folks, we have free will!

AGREED! He is the First and the Last, the Beginning and End, the Alpha and Omega, the Father and Son.

He encompasses all of the eternal present, and the Omega who the Alpha becomes knows everything that you have done in his past according to your own free will.
htam9876
 
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Tue 15 Nov, 2022 03:17 am
Yes, dear folks, people can have free will in DREAM.
Last night the poor porky pie “travel back in time” successfully and amended those “flawed” love stories…haha
http://x0.ifengimg.com/res/2019/32367523D1ED5FFE1A6156F6C68437950EB24B1F_size338_w540_h303.gif
Agent Smith
 
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Tue 15 Nov, 2022 03:23 am
@steve reid,
Well, I'm thoroughly convinced about the existence, the reality, the preeminence, of our liberty, but only to the extent that we fully grasp its antithesis.
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Agent Smith
 
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Tue 15 Nov, 2022 03:25 am
@The Anointed,
Well, Deus is part of determinism but I suppose He makes an exception every now and then. Good for Him and for us too, wouldn't you agree?
Agent Smith
 
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Tue 15 Nov, 2022 03:26 am
@htam9876,
Hilarious! Porky Pig, wasn't he a anthropomorphized sus domesticus?
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htam9876
 
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Tue 15 Nov, 2022 07:30 am
Actually piggy’s “standard” answer to such kind of question is “there is no free will in this cosmos, everyone has to bow to the First Order”.
Oh Lord, perhaps nightmare again tonight…
http://spider.ws.126.net/d79d1cc48e1b8f3f66bcbb2d9799c173.gif
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