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Does free will exist?

 
 
Jasper10
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2022 12:51 am
@Albuquerque,
You will probably dismiss this post completely but if you are going to go inward and visualise all matter disappearing into a single point or black hole as you call it,can I challenge you by saying why do you see everything as black? Why can’t it all be white? White in the sense that because a presence is there .i.e. your presence or as I call it your “I am” then there is no black if all can be observed.

If you can’t make your mind up whether it is all black or all white then at least create 2 holes one on the left and one on the right and imagine them containing both black and white at the same time or black with a presence within them both.

I stand back from these 2 holes,one on the left and one on the right and give them a new description.I describe both these holes has glassy containing both black and white or black and presence.



steve reid
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2022 04:29 am
@Albuquerque,
Albuquerque wrote:
Those who are not familiar with the problematic tend to point to randomness as a solution when the fact of the matter is that randomness makes it worse as no action that you take has authorship!

Well that's burst my bubble. It now looks like I was searching for something that I don't believe exists, and if I had found it, it would have been of no use in the free will scenario

Just watched the "Max Tegmark - Are There Multiple Universes?" video you recommended, I was happy to hear the randomness comment near the end
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Albuquerque
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2022 01:44 pm
@Jasper10,
...the point in that metaphor about mind black holes was one can't see what is black.
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Jasper10
 
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Tue 20 Dec, 2022 10:01 am
@Jasper10,
If your foundational starting point for morality is that there are no good and bad absolutes and are foolish enough then to claim that therefore good is bad and bad is good and this is an absolute and then adopt this half logic 0=1...1=0 philosophy to your science by trying to claim that natures natural electromagnetic forces cancel out then you are in serious error because natures electromagnetic forces do not cancel out. They balance. You therefore seriously need to review your original philosophical starting point because I would suggest that a God that might exist might not be best pleased with you.
Albuquerque
 
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Tue 20 Dec, 2022 03:42 pm
@Jasper10,
When you eat a rabbit you are going to rabbit hell!
So says The Rabbit God!
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Jasper10
 
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Tue 20 Dec, 2022 03:48 pm
@Jasper10,
Well if good is good and bad is bad then there are rules so it doesn’t matter whether you have definitive proof that there there is or isn’t a God.Rules take precedent because they have to be kept perfectly.

Scary stuff.
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davado
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2022 04:59 pm
@Night Ripper,
according to the bible our lives are mapped out long before we exist.
The smallest action would change our fate so if the bible is true free will cannot exist. Despite what the catholics say
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Albuquerque
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2022 09:39 pm
The landscape on the debate on Free Will:
I totally disagree with the POV ascribed here, as the Libertarian view that from Randomness you can learn from the past is self contradictory, and equally, from Determinism, Compatiblism is just a political spin off to maintain the status quo without stirring to much the waters of human comfort zone regarding social organization.
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Albuquerque
 
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Tue 17 Jan, 2023 10:36 am
Neuromarketing:
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hydrathematrixrunner
 
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Wed 28 Jun, 2023 11:31 am
@Diogenes phil,
Free will is a complicated issue and there are plenty of arguments both for and against. Those in favor generally argue that we have the ability to make choices and that there is some element of unpredictability in the outcomes of those choices. On the other hand, those against often suggest that free will is an illusion, that we are predetermined to make certain decisions, and that our lives can be explained using determinism.

From what I understand, the main argument FOR free will is that it can explain how people make choices, while some argue AGAINST it based on the idea that everything is predetermined. Those FOR free will would say that human beings can make conscious decisions, whereas those AGAINST it would argue that whatever choices people make are predetermined, even if they are not aware of what is predetermined.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 28 Jun, 2023 11:43 am
@hydrathematrixrunner,
Dithering over the existence of free will is a choice made exercising free will.

The danger of over-contemplating one's navel is if it is practiced too long and intently, one will fall into that navel. One will become one with that navel.

Ask Albuquerque.
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htam9876
 
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Wed 28 Jun, 2023 07:53 pm
Piggy feels Mr. DomenicHalvah’s 7’246’025 post very fun…
https://able2know.org/topic/572319-1#post-7246025
https://img.zcool.cn/community/01ae635dd385bba8012129e26938db.gif
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Albuquerque
 
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Thu 29 Jun, 2023 03:25 am
@hydrathematrixrunner,
Close but wrong...indeterminism also does not support free will, chance is not choice!

So far there is no cogent argument in favour of free will both from determinism and indeterminism!
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htam9876
 
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Thu 29 Jun, 2023 04:01 pm
There could be thousands of lyrical poems PRESENCE in this cosmos every year.
There could be thousands of DREAMs PRESENCE in this cosmos every year.
People can show up their free will as they want.
Unfortunately, Mr. “Oscar” forges only three medals every year.
https://img.zcool.cn/community/010bf15d0afd8da801205e4b81886b.gif
You can buy the best beer in a shop with the bills of Mr. “Oscar”, but you can buy nothing with your free will there.
Amen.

bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 29 Jun, 2023 06:16 pm
@htam9876,
One may use one's free will to earn the price of the best beer in the shop.

The cosmos won't even give you a Budweiser.
Jasper10
 
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Thu 29 Jun, 2023 11:52 pm
@Diogenes phil,
I believe that free will comes down to logic.

Do you believe that +=- and -=+ or do you believe that -=- and +=+ ?

We know that the widely accepted philosophy of the day is that +=- and -=+ with no regard whatsoever for the other two logic outputs.

Science has based ALL its theories on a foundational philosophical logic of +=- and -=+ even though the 2 electromagnetic forces in nature vibratory balance by the formula +/-=+/- and do not cancel out.

htam9876
 
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Fri 30 Jun, 2023 01:22 am
@bobsal u1553115,
What Str# theory won’t give the pig Budweiser, otherwise the pig would rather “believe in” it…haha
https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/1991398135/O1CN01JIyCdD29xsfx64dHl_!!1991398135.jpg

Jasper10
 
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Fri 30 Jun, 2023 01:53 am
@Jasper10,
Scientists will try to argue that + and - forces of an electromagnetic are the same because it is the same electromagnetic field.They cancel these forces therefore.

But we are not talking about the electromagnetic field.

We’re talking about the 4 off possible electromagnetic force interactions between two spinning objects at both the macro and micro levels….-/-…-/+..+/-..+/+

The only way to vibratory balance these forces of nature is by the formula
+/-=+/-



Jasper10
 
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Fri 30 Jun, 2023 02:13 am
@Jasper10,
Uuummmm.They will be scratching their heads on that one.

There isn’t a scientist out there that can challenge it.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 30 Jun, 2023 05:25 am
@htam9876,
Maybe pig doesn't understand string theory. String theory gets us to Budweiser and everything else, including the cosmos. The cosmos got here passively, from string theory.
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