Why does God permit evil????

Very well put Alan but the fact remains you wont get a reasoned response. The question posed from the start is illogical not unless you question any of those three claims. If you question any one of those three claims it invalidates the original question.

xris only man is capable of real evil, take a pride of lions who have killed a zebra for food, the zebras nearby the slaughtered zebra somehow know the are safe and go back to their grazing peacefully right next to the feeding pride. The lions only take out of nature what they NEED we humans mindlessly rape our beautiful planet needlessly

I don't know Alan. I think this is a pretty weak argument because we could use ourselves as an example of this as well. While I am in the middle of a meal I am not asking myself or anyone with me, "So what should we get to eat?" I don't ask because I am already in the middle of eating. Or who after they just finished a large meal is looking for something to eat? Maybe I am an exception but I don't do that.

So it would make more than sense that a pride of lions would ignore other grazing animals once they have their meal laid out before them. I don't think they are being conservative in nature, but instead it is just a natural occurrence like me not asking for food when I'm already eating.

Although I do agree with you, that humans do things that are needless many times, this however is not a very good example.

The world is dualistic and the minds of humans are dual because we live in a world that is dualistic. We can choose to do mean things or helpful things. Some days we might do good and other days we might do bad. Sometimes you might not even be aware that you are doing something negative or bad. At other times, you might do bad simply because it is the easier thing to do. It takes effort sometimes to be sympathetic to the results of your actions, but so, so, so much easier to not consider it.

If you want to save the world, shoot a politician. Oops that is treasonous, I better not say that. I don't have the right to say that, especially when it's not true.

If I read you right xris you are a dualist, and so am I, and in that sense you have met on common ground

Oh so now you are giving xris credit for my posts? You are welcome xris. I mean thank you xris for that post, I mean, my post *wink*.

dont mention it krumps, all in days work.

xris only man is capable of real evil, take a pride of lions who have killed a zebra for food, the zebras nearby the slaughtered zebra somehow know the are safe and go back to their grazing peacefully right next to the feeding pride. The lions only take out of nature what they NEED we humans mindlessly rape our beautiful planet needlessly

Don't you think that a real evil had happened to that zebra, or do you think that the zebra enjoyed being killed and eaten?

If God took away all the negatives we would be left with a pink ice-cream non-challenging ever lasting boring Paradise that after a few years of this they would think it was hell

Heaven would become hell because all meaning would be lost!

I think you are committing the False Dilemma Fallacy here. That is to say, you are presenting a choice between two extremes without considering intermediate possibilities. Why cannot God take away just some (the worst) of the negatives, leaving just enough to keep life interesting and worthwhile? Beyond a certain limit, the disadvantages of evil outweigh the advantages, do they not? (Otherwise you could imagine an even more evil world than ours, and argue that it would be even better!) So, do you really think the amount and extremity of evil in our world are not excessive?

Bear in mind also that some manifestations of evil (e.g. lifelong severe mental disability) prevent people from sharing the supposed "challenges" of an imperfect world. Surely God could have avoided that situation.

If God intervened directly in the lives of man , the first negativity he should remove is the "ability to lie"

But you dont get it Alan, if he is alll powerful he could overcome any of your reasons. There could be no reason to have evil, he would be able to solve any problem you care to mention. One of three has to be wrong in fact.

Maybe he is inscrutable and does not want to; at this stage reveal, exactly why he has allowed evil men to live.

Sometimes I do no step on a cockroach, I look at him running away from me and decide what the heck let the little pest live ?

Do you really think that answers my concerns Alan? At this stage..... how long do you think he will allow evil?

The zebra goes int a state of shock and feels nothing, this can be backed up by humans that have been attacked by lions they feel nothing not even fear

But you dont get it Alan, if he is alll powerful he could overcome any of your reasons. There could be no reason to have evil, he would be able to solve any problem you care to mention. One of three has to be wrong in fact.

Yes. God could intervene to stop the pediatrician from hurting the child by giving the child a flu shot. I wonder why God doesn't. That shows that God permits evil.

God could intervene to stop the flu shot from hurting the child. Or he could just do the obvious, i.e. eliminate flu.

I have a real problem with one entity, the "Virus" how could God create an entity that does nearly nothing but kill millions of its Hosts?

Maybe Satan created this little beasties:)