Why does God permit evil????

The problem of evil supposes that an all powerful, all good, God exists. If that is false, there is no problem of evil in the first place.

Lots of cancers are caused by man, it's scientific fact K. And read Justins post please. You just can't keep blaming a God that we know nothing about, it sure isn't the one in the Bible, ok.

Evil is a problem but not a problem of the myth but a problem of the man behind the myth. Until we get over that hump collectively, we'll keep our eye's to the heaven waiting for god to return and deliver us from the evil ways of men... Then men we worship, follow, and idolize.

Now please, I must go stand in line and get there early so that I may get God's signature on my bible. That's what's important.

If God exists then he has no power over what man does.
Lol Justin.

You call them natural evils, I call them geograpical movements necessary for the planet. I've got a headache so I'm quitting this thread.
Thanks.

No not at all and please refrain from making assumptions, if anything it's because I'm tired of going around in circles and that I've answered all of your questions at least twice.
Thanks.

If you went to war to defend your country because it was being attacked then you'd expect casualties, you wouldn't expect some define hand to come down and stop it, it rather depends on what your perception of God is, if it's in the biblical sense, the myth, then the logic is flawed as explained in previous posts.

So asking a question about the free will your proposing your god gave us is not relevant? hows that then ???..I am used to debating with new reconstructed believers, they are constant visitors. In the end they make the same claims but you have to drag it out of them.

Your god, did he realise the consequences of free will ? did he comprehend our imperfections would result in mass murder and genocide?

By the way, why did you remove the post to me after i replied?

"If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to treat everything as if it were a nail." -- Abraham Maslow



I can't say for certain, but I would imagine that God might have guessed it was possible. Do you have a point?



Eh? - No clue what you're talking about. I haven't deleted any posts.

--IntoTheLight--

No, I am suggesting that natural disaster cause pain and suffering, and pain and that the pain, and suffering of innocents like children or animals, are evils that a good-God would want to prevent, and that an all-powerful God could prevent.

I'm not angry with god, I'm angry with the description. I have told you before, he is beyond our comprehension, if exists.

Forget about fault. It has nothing to do with it. It has to do with why an all-powerful God who is also all-good, doesn't do something about it.

Why is it you respond with rhetoric whatever the question.

Why do you assume questioning is a certain tool of inquisition?

If your god had the idea that he might have created the evil he proposed through creation dont you think that he has certain responsibility?

Funny how your response to my question disappeared, you must be aware of its disappearance.

So now its, I will not answer your questions but instead ask a question that requires no answer. If he is beyond comprehension why do you require a comprehensive reply?

Then you would be believing in a God in the biblical sense, which is just a myth as explained before in previous posts.

Originally Posted by IntoTheLight
Naturally occuring events aren't "evil" unless you're suggesting that earthquakes, floods, famine, and disease are sentient lifeforms capable of making moral decisions.




LOL - Make up your mind. I just successfully nullified your original argument, but now you're changing the definition of the word "evil".

In order for an act to be considered "evil" it must be made by a sentient being who is capable of making moral decision and that being must reject a "good" action and replace it with one that is harmful or malicious to others.
A naturally-occuring phenomena such as a earthquake cannot be "evil" because the earthquake doesn't make a conscious decision to kill people.

You lost that one; just admit it and move on.

Further, I wanted to comment on something else you said:

"...are evils that a good-God would want to prevent, and that an all-powerful God could prevent."

First of all, who said that God is "all-powerful" ? -- Not me. You're using the same broken tactics that Krumple and Xris tried to use: making a Strawman argument. I never once said that God was all-powerful so tryng to use that as an argument against me is moot.

Second, and this is my really big question: You don't believe in God, but you keep making arguments about what God is or what God would do. How are you in any position whatsoever to make such claims? What do you base them on? That's what I would like to know.

Exactly what is your basis for making statements about the nature of God?

Trust me, I will keep asking you this until you give a non-evasive answer.

--IntoTheLight--

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Whoa, whoa, whoa... What's this?

"God is beyond our comprehension"? On exactly what evidence or argument do you base that statement?

Inquiring minds want to know.

--IntoTheLight--

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I'm curious as to exactly how far you would llke God to go in fixing problems? Seriously.

Could you please define exactly to what limit you think that God should go to (or stop at) before God quit intervening?

I would like to know.

Thank you.

--IntoTheLight--

Well, it is not up to me. Since God is all-powerful, it is up to Him. Isn't it? Of course, that would depend on his goodness. If He is all-good, I would think he would fix it all, since He would not want any suffering or pain.

You still didn't answer my question.

On exactly what do you base your claims about the nature of God?

Any day now.

--IntoTheLight--