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Joe Nation wrote:

Question: Why do vegetarians take vegetable matter and form it into stuff that looks like meat? Vegetarian sausage. Huh?

Joe, when did you last see a sausage in the wild? It's not really a natural shape for animal flesh, either!

Though I agree with you that "chicken flavoured quorn", "textured vegetable protein rashers - fake bacon" and similar are an abomination. I was a veggie for 6.5 years and avoided that kind of stuff as much as possible.

What's wrong with putting vegetables together in a pan and cooking them appropriately?

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littlek, I never implied that vegetarians were passive, in fact, it seems they are quite aggressive at annoying everyone else around them with their lifestyle choice. Laughing

I'm kidding, of course.

KP, at least sausages have a proletarian purpose: A way for a farmer or butcher to use up cuts of meat that would otherwise be unsellable. Vegetarian "meat" just has no purpose at all, IMO.

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Once upon a time my (now-long-gone) yoga teacher wife and I went to a Vegan Restaurant, a contradiction in terms if there ever was one, and saw served what looked like PORK CHOPS. It was that tofu stuff, pressed and mashed into a porkchop shape. um or rather Om why?

Having said that I have to say I cooked vegetartian food for our family for about four years. I made sauces and soups and combinations of all sorts, but I never made anything that looked like it was meat.

Oh wait, I take it back....... if you saute tofu in little pieces and then add it to vege chili, it looks just like ground beef... Rolling Eyes

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Kitchenpete wrote

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Joe, when did you last see a sausage in the wild? It's not really a natural shape for animal flesh, either!

I am going to refrain from making the obvious jokes.

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To be quite honest, I don't really understand the manipulated vegie products either. I don't eat meat because it grosses me out. I think the fake meats are for people who like the taste of meat, but don't want to eat it (like my dad who is on a strick heart-healthy diet due to heart disease).

There is one product I used to use a bit. It was the vegie sausages. I would chop it up and add it to dishes for that smokey/salty flavor. Haven't bought the stuff in a long time. But, I tend to buy foods that are less manipulated.

G - you're a stricketer vegie than I. I haven't eaten beef (on purpose, ugh) for maybe 15 years and it's been longer since I've eaten chicken. I don't usually call myself a vegie anymore because I will occassionally, when I need it, eat turkey and I do eat fish about once a month.

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Joe Nation wrote:

if you saute tofu in little pieces and then add it to vege chili, it looks just like ground beef...

Sheesh. What a revoltin' thought. That's enough to make Elmer roll over in his grave, Joe.

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You can use MSG for that smoky-meaty taste, depending on how you feel about it. The Japanese have a word for the flavor of MSG - "Umami" (which means yummy). It's been adopted in the literature by the scientific types who study taste because we westerners don't have a word for it.

It also puts copraphagic dogs off their poop, so you might benefit there, too.

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MSG bugs me. I thought Umami was a specific seasoning (not msg).

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MSG is just sugar cane. Americans gave it a bad rep without ever having a reason to do so. Kinda like what Americans did with sillicone and high voltage lines.

It's a GRAS fer cryin' out loud.

It bothers me that in America the allegations are always more famous than the scientific results.

Anywho, if ya wanna read on this: http://www.healthyeatingliving.com/MSG.htm

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Joe Nation wrote:

Kitchenpete wrote

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Joe, when did you last see a sausage in the wild? It's not really a natural shape for animal flesh, either!

I am going to refrain from making the obvious jokes.

In Japan they put plastic replicas of dishes in restaurant windows. As a child I thought I saw a dish with sausage.

It wasn't sausage. It was one of those natuarally occuring shapes (from a deer).

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Craven de Kere wrote:

MSG is just sugar cane. Americans gave it a bad rep without ever having a reason to do so. Kinda like what Americans did with sillicone and high voltage lines.

It's a GRAS fer cryin' out loud.

It bothers me that in America the allegations are always more famous than the scientific results.

Anywho, if ya wanna read on this: http://www.healthyeatingliving.com/MSG.htm

Something has made me flush. Maybe it wasn't the MSG....? I dunno. I had a very strange reaction to those little fried dough strips that are sometimes served before a mealin chinese restaurants. I had a wicked head-to-toe flush (kinda like a niacin flush). It might have been cool if it weren't so mysterious.

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did you have just the strips..or with sauce?

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I always thought msg was the dried blood salts..... Now I have learned, what is it actually again???? An amino acid?

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Dried blood salts!?!? Creepy.

Quinn, I think I was just munching on the crispies on the way home from picking up a bunch of chinese food. A few minutes after I got home - fwooosh!

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Say what you want... I don't eat MSG iffin I can help it. Makes me flush and keeps me awake.

If vetgatarians eat vegatables, what do humanitarians eat?

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I always thought msg was the dried blood salts..... Now I have learned, what is it actually again???? An amino acid?

Yes. So far as I know, the only verifiable concern so far is the sodium.

Here's a picture of without its clothes on, for you lurid types...

http://www.cas.astate.edu/draganjac/glust.JPG

Now, glutamate is one of the primary neurotransmitters in the brain, but the circulatory system is pretty good about keeping unwanted stuff away from brain cells. (Though I don't know anything about glutamate metabolism in the brain...)

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If vetgatarians eat vegatables, what do humanitarians eat?

Aborted fetuses, so stay away from 'em.

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Eva
I had a dream last night. Elmer heard somehow about the tofu chili (DID YOU TELL?) and he walked up to me and slapped me across the face with a raw brisket.......

patiodog wrote:

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Now, glutamate is one of the primary neurotransmitters in the brain, but the circulatory system is pretty good about keeping unwanted stuff away from brain cells. (Though I don't know anything about glutamate metabolism in the brain...)

I don't like to eat MSG but after I heard it was one of the primary
neuro-whatchamacallits in the brain, I started pouring it in my left ear.
So far so good.

Joe

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Let me know how it works out, Joe. As for me, I'm loading up on everything with preservatives. If it'll keep food fresh, I figure maybe it'll work on me, too.

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Look for the guy with a whole deer in his cart. At least you won't go hungry.

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