chai2
 
  1  
Wed 17 Apr, 2019 03:41 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Quote:
I asked if the kid was the one who has autism, because if that were true, it would explain a lot.

Naah, Subliminal is the one with social skills in the family.


<snort> Laughing

You're probably just saying that because you know someone who is an addict and I think everyone should know it's all your fault because you sir, are just a horrible horrible person who doesn't even tweet so that means you live in a cupboard and eat moth balls.
chai2
 
  1  
Wed 17 Apr, 2019 03:56 pm
izzythepush wrote:

Don't try to backtrack on what you said.

You used autism as if it was an insult.

You are repulsive.




How is this....

"Is this your child that on the autism spectrum? I don't mean asking the autism question as an insult or that being spectrum phobic or whatever you would call it. It would simply explain a lot about the behavior exhibited."

supposed to be insulting when (a) I clearly said I wasn't meaning it as an insult and (b) said it would simply explain a lot about the behavior exhibited?



I have a banana here, which is yellow, and sweet. Yesterday it was green and tasted starchy, but now, it is yellow, and sweet.

STOP TELLING ME THE BANANA IS GREEN AND STARCHY!
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chai2
 
  2  
Wed 17 Apr, 2019 04:09 pm
Unbelieveably, this this post is actually about atheism.

Weird, I know.

So I've mentioned before I do a mid day gig for maybe an hour, hour and a half, picking up a bunch of lunches from 2 or 3 restaurants, and delivering to 2, 3, 4 business.

Weirdest day. When I checked the app, I only had to make one stop at a closeby BBQ place, and pick up 2 meals. Off subject, personally I would have told me no assignment today, and given it to someone else, but, whatever.

Anyway this BBQ joint has been around forever. Old Austin. Many times that means conservative Christian.

I walked in and said to the 2 gals behind the counter. Wow, what's going on? The roads are empty, there's only 2 cars in your parking lot, and I'm only getting 2 meals.

One of them looks up and said "I dunno. Maybe because Easter is this Sunday, and it's pre Easter time off work?"

I said "Oh! I didn't realize Easter was this Sunday. I don't....(then I hesitated, recalibrated and finished with)....really do Easter."

Both ladies rolled their eyes, and one said "Oof...all that God stuff. You can have it", and the other said "Me too"

Then, one of the 2 customers in the place said "Yeah, what a bunch of ****" The other customer was far away so couldn't hear the conversation.

It was a nice moment actually.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Wed 17 Apr, 2019 04:13 pm
@chai2,
Don't call me "sir", please. I'm a trans-trans-man.
chai2
 
  1  
Wed 17 Apr, 2019 04:31 pm
@Olivier5,
I identify as "that nutty lady who comes to the pool all the time, paddling around and talking to the lifeguards about Neflix and saying other scandlous things"

So I think my pronoun is "hey you"
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Setanta
 
  1  
Wed 17 Apr, 2019 06:44 pm
@chai2,
That was a good one, by God.
chai2
 
  1  
Wed 17 Apr, 2019 08:02 pm
@Setanta,
This is Green Mesquite BBQ Set

Their slogan is: Horrifying vegetarians since 1988.

They're pretty good, I pick up take out from them now and then. It's like a mile from my house.
The man prefers Poke-e-joes

PSA - No transphobic comments were made during the writing of this post.

https://static.spin.com/files/field/image/green-mesquite.jpg

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Setanta
 
  1  
Wed 17 Apr, 2019 10:05 pm
Sounds great to me--I'm an unrepentant carnivore--so long, of course, as it's not from trans pigs and cows.
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hingehead
 
  1  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 01:12 am
@TheSubliminalKid,
Quote:
Gervais uses us as the butt of his jokes all the time and then argues against our humanity. He has expressed transphobic opinions openly.


I can honestly say I've never heard Gervais do a transphobic joke - but I don't watch everything he's ever done. I liked Derek.

Quote:
I mean I knew a2k was full of transphobic bigots but it's a bit pathetic to claim you give a crap about other people just to deflect from the fact you don't think trans people should have human rights.


Wow - what in the ******* world makes you think you know that I don't think trans people shouldn't have human rights? If you can be so wrong about that why should I listen to anything else you say?

Perhaps because, like Ricky Gervais, thoughts you express can stand up for themselves without being dismissed by the listener's personal disdain for the person who uttered them.

I've yet to see you or your dad refute the statement from Gervais that I posted to start this **** fight. You both have just gone ad hominem for anyone involved.

That's a hell of a way to go through life and I'm sorry I've inflicted it on you.
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TheSubliminalKid
 
  0  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 03:04 am
I mean, this is basically how this thread has gone:

Me: Hi, this guy is pretty openly transphobic (not just telling transphobic jokes – but also arguing why we shouldn’t support trans people) so I don’t support him.

Bigots: You’re just being too sensitive, the problem is with you as transphobia isn’t a problem

Me: Three of my trans friends have killed themselves and I have been sexually assaulted just for being trans.

Bigots: You’re just projecting your issues onto us! Lol transphobia is funny and I'm going to call you by the wrong gender because it's funny to me.

Me: Maybe if you stopped condoning casual transphobia, it would help a narrative that it’s not okay to kill us?

Bigots: Let’s make a few transphobic jokes and attack your autistic brother to show you transphobia isn’t a problem.

The world is moving in the right direction and the likes of Chai will be long dead while we get more and more rights. Stay on the wrong side of history, future generations will cringe at the fact that people were as disgusting to trans people as you are.

Also I didn’t read that long rant Chai posted lol. I really don’t care, and I find it funny she wastes so much time on here.

And yes my opinion on trans rights is important because... I'm trans. Clearly I’m going to know far more about how this is manifested than you as it’s my every day. So by suggesting I'm "crazy" by telling the harsh reality of trans existence is just willfully ignoring what happens.

And yes, it sides with the people that kill us, disown us, rape us.

Chai is gross, no wonder the only person who would take her is a geriatric addict that drinks to get through her gross company.

Meanwhile I'm making wedding plans.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 03:20 am
@TheSubliminalKid,
Quote:
Imagine you’ve just bought a new jacket and you love it. You love it so much you spend considerable portions of time devoted to telling people just how much you love it and how they should get one too, just like it.

Imagine now that you’re wearing this jacket and you walk into a pub to see someone wearing the exact same one, the wearer being a complete ******* wanker of some repute. You’d start to question yourself.

If we share the same taste in outerwear, you think, does that mean we share other qualities? 'Am I also', you ponder, 'an execrable prick'?

This is how Ricky Gervais makes me feel about atheism.

You’d be forgiven for forgetting that Ricky Gervais is quite possibly the single greatest British comic mind of his generation. He created The Office, a perfect sitcom - one that’s instantly relatable and a certified classic. A piece of art. A piece of modern pop-culture history.

That all, of course, has gone to **** as Gervais’ over-exposure to his own genius has seemingly irritated any semblance of talent he once had, like a comedy Chernobyl.

Now Gervais spends all day hanging out with career racist Richard Dawkins, probably throwing darts at sputum-stained pillow with baby Jesus’ face on it. He’s now a professional pedant and pusher of his own arrogant agenda: that there is no God - nope, none - and you’re all ignorant cunts for thinking that there is, was or ever could be anything approaching a higher being. That and the fact that 'mongs' (his words, not mine) are hilarious.

Gervais feels extremely strongly about both of these things.

Imagine devoting your life to bragging about the fact you don’t believe in something.

I was like that once.

Despite being from a vaguely Christian and Jewish background and having been brought up in a vaguely Church of England school, I was at first skeptical and then adamant that there wasn’t a god and that when we die that’s it.

The main thrust of my argument for atheism was “Uh, you guys - where’s the proof? Where’s the science behind all this hypothesising?”

A particularly original argument it was not and that’s because it’s pretty hard to argue against.

I was steadfast that this was a watertight case until I started following Ricky Gervais on Twitter.

Perhaps nobody, save for the medium of print journalism, has suffered as badly as Gervais from the advent of social media - and the comic’s constant stream of belligerent bullying and condescending anti-faith agenda made me question my spiritual allegiance.

Why would I want to be part of a club like this? Especially part of a club where at the end of it, you get nothing.

I started to see the other side’s allure.


I’m still agnostic at best and still think that organised faith is too easily manipulated and can be very dangerous but sure, I get the appeal. It seems nice, all that heaven and stuff. Way better than down here, with grumpy bastards fighting over who believes in stuff less.

There are bad Christians, bad Muslims and bad members of all faiths and sure, the bad ones tend to be REALLY bad. That’s something we can all get behind - but Gervais has also shown that there are bad atheists too. Terrible ones, in fact.

Atheists who bully and belittle and ridicule and have crafted a die-hard following of people who won’t let anyone say a bad word about their leaders let alone disagree with their views.

Sounds like fanatical atheism is going the right way about summoning up a backlash. Imagine being such an awful wanker that you’ve made people believe in God.


https://sabotagetimes.com/life/how-ricky-gervais-ruined-atheism-for-the-rest-of-us<br />

What's very telling is that Hingehead had to scour the right wing press to come up with a reason to attack Frankie Boyle. He found Boyle's misguided attempt to attack Katie Price by referring to her son and told us all that Boyle was awful for attacking people with Down's Syndrome.

Gervais constantly uses the term "Mong" to insult people. Mong is short for mongoloid, and archaic and derogatory term used to insult people with Downs. Hingehead keeps silent about that.

Despite being told of Gervais' transphobia, something even Chai acknowledged Hingehead denies it because he's not seen it. I've never seen Hitler gas anyone at Auschwitz, so according to Hingehead's logic he must have been innocent of that.

Gervais has shown us one thing, that atheists can be every bit as bigoted and intolerant as the most fundamentalist of believers and his followers are every bit as fanatical as those who burned witches.

Olivier5
 
  -1  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 03:41 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Gervais has shown us one thing, that atheists can be every bit as bigoted and intolerant as the most fundamentalist of believers and his followers are every bit as fanatical as those who burned witches.

And after all these years on A2K, you couldn't figure that out by yourself? You needed this guy Gervais (never heard of him) to realize it, really? Perhaps you were a bit too busy dishing out your own intolerance and bigotry to smell the vitriol dished out by the anti-jeebus crowd...

For the record, I'm an atheist, but Donatien Alphonse François de Sade ruined virulent atheism for me.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 03:51 am
@TheSubliminalKid,
I'm a fan of Chai, whom I see as one of the best persons around here. She can be grumpy but she's smart, funny as hell and capable of empathy, something rare enough to be mentioned.

It's very easy to get angry at random people. Anybody can do it and derive a brief "high" from it; especially insecure people. It's harder to see the light in other folks, because for that, we need to pay attention a little bit instead of projecting our own insecurities and fears onto them.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 04:20 am
@Olivier5,
When someone mocks the deaths of your friends you're not projecting fears and insecurities on anyone. You're seeing them for what they are.

The scales fell from my eyes.

At least you're not defending Gervais and his bigotry, I'll give you that.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 04:41 am
@izzythepush,
Who has mocked the death of your friends, pray tell?

You too are a bit too quick in spotting monsters everywhere and flaming them at the stake. Consider the harm you might be doing by encouraging such capacity for facile hatred in your children.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 05:17 am
@Olivier5,
No my friends, the Kid's friends and Chai mocked their deaths.

Do you seriously want to know, because when you use archaic terms like "pray tell" you don't sound interested, just condescending.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 05:25 am
@izzythepush,
If I sound condescending, it's because you sound foolish.

In which of her posts did Chai mock the death of your kid's friends, pray tell? It better be more than subliminal.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 06:02 am
@Olivier5,
She did it in a PM. I don't have access to the Kid's account.

Why do you care anyway? You've already made your decision.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 06:09 am
@izzythepush,
In other words, you can't prove it but it won't stop you from spreading the allegation... Shame on you.

izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 18 Apr, 2019 06:12 am
@Olivier5,
I know what I saw.

In other words you don't care what was done, you just want to jump on the bandwagon so you can attack me and my family.

You have no concept of shame.
 

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