timur
 
  2  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:26 am
Frank wrote:
And we really should take this over to the other thread. Don't know why you felt compelled to start it again over here, but there is no need for it. You are already taking enough beating over there.
I'm wondering why you always utter such crap, Frank.

You should be talking about atheism instead of babbling about stuff you know nothing about.

Reality is a cultural thing and nor you neither fresco will convince the other that it's not..
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:35 am
@timur,
You decided to start your nonsense here again, Timur...YOU STARTED IT...and I am responding.

C'mon.
timur
 
  2  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:38 am
@Frank Apisa,
You are a liar, Frank, and you can't go around it.
layman
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:40 am
@timur,
Quote:
Reality is a cultural thing


Quote:
When I hear the word "culture," I reach for my Luger. (Hermann Goering)
timur
 
  2  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:42 am
@layman,
A worn out one, don't you think?

On the other hand, you didn't hear that word, did you?
layman
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:45 am
@timur,
Quote:
A worn out one, don't you think?


Truth is timeless and eternal, aincha heard? It never goes "out of fashion."
Herald
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:47 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
You can ask whatever you want. The subject was whether two mutually exclusive claims can BOTH be true. The answer is "no," not if you accept logic.
     No, the subject was if you don't define A you cannot tell anything about non-A - that was the topic. If you don't know what God might be, by believing blindly in the Big Bang 'theory' you cannot claim for sure that you don't believe in God for any interpretation of the world, for in the end it may come out that the Big Bang has some brain ... and that it may be indistinguishable from God.
layman wrote:
Your question does not even address that topic.
     Obviously ... after you have replaced the topic.
timur
 
  3  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:48 am
@layman,
Truth too, is a cultural thing and, as so, subject to changes over time..
farmerman
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:48 am
@layman,
"If you say the word "culture" in my presence and you aint talkin about makin great beer or cheeses, then kindly get out of the store"
-Sam Calagione
layman
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:51 am
@timur,
Quote:
Truth too, is a cultural thing


Quote:
When I hear someone say "culture is truth," I grab my sawed-off, right quick, slap some buckshot into that baby, shuck that sucker, and squeeze off both barrels. (Me and my brother)


layman
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:51 am
@farmerman,
Exactly, Farmer!
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:52 am
@timur,
I am not a liar.

You seem to get off on calling me a liar.

Glad you are enjoying yourself...I guess we all have our own way of getting off.

You started this...I will end it. I thought we'd be able to get this silliness out of this thread...and keep it in the other thread, but obviously you have gone off the edge.
timur
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:53 am
@layman,
You seem to be a very "truthful", "cultured" guy..
0 Replies
 
timur
 
  2  
Tue 12 May, 2015 10:55 am
@Frank Apisa,
If only you could shut up your clap-trap and stop lying, we should be able to get this to the other thread..
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 11:04 am
@timur,
I am not lying.

What I am doing is trying to make you make a fool of yourself (and being very, very successful)...so why not just take the argument to that other thread.

What say?
timur
 
  2  
Tue 12 May, 2015 11:17 am
@Frank Apisa,
It will do for now.

I'll be back here to reply to further nonsense on your part...
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 11:53 am
@timur,
Best to keep it there, but if you want to intrude here, I will be here for you.
0 Replies
 
fresco
 
  2  
Tue 12 May, 2015 11:58 am
@Frank Apisa,
The problem Frank,is that your incessant vacuous bleating puts peoples backs up. I don't know what the tiff is with Timur, but I can certainly confirm that you are either a liar or a fool (take your pick) when you write drivel about you "having no beliefs".

Now if you have something to say about atheism other than some nonsense about it "being a belief system" lets hear it. And whatever you believe about my "contextual reality" (equivalent to Timur's "cultural reality") opening the door to "the indefensible", I suggest that only what we are able to define as "human rights abuse" (which does happen in some religions), can be cited as "indefensible", and that what we think of as "logicality" can play no part.

Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Tue 12 May, 2015 12:00 pm
@fresco,
Sorry, Fresco...I've got to continue beating on Timur.

I'll get back to you when I'm ready.
0 Replies
 
timur
 
  2  
Tue 12 May, 2015 12:03 pm
Frank wrote:
Best to keep it there, but if you want to intrude here, I will be here for you.
As my offer was dismissed, I'll keep pointing out what a boaster and a sucker you are.
 

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