Atheism

@argome321,

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Why would or do you think " Can an agnostic be anything other than an atheist?

So, as has now become your habit, you won't answer. Instead of answering a question about YOU, you ask one about me.

@layman,

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So, as has now become your habit, you won't answer. Instead of answering a question about YOU, you ask one about me.

This sounds more like you than me, In fact you're doing now
You can ask about me , but I can;t ask about you?

But even if I was, I'm learning from one of the best

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@argome321,

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Why would or do you think " Can an agnostic be anything other than an atheist?

I'll respond to your red herring question anyway. YOU are this one who made THIS post:

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You can be an atheist which means that if you feel that the gods posited don’t make any sense that they could not exist, if you are without belief you are an Atheist, nothing more, nothing less. If you admit you do not know then you are an agnostic atheist.

So I was asking you for "clarification" of something you have already appeared to answer before.

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Why would or do you think " Can an agnostic be anything other than an atheist?

To answer your quesiton: I asked you a question. I said NOTHING whatsoever about what I think

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@layman,

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Why would or do you think " Can an agnostic be anything other than an atheist?

I'll respond to your red herring question anyway. YOU are this one who made THIS post:

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You can be an atheist which means that if you feel that the gods posited don’t make any sense that they could not exist, if you are without belief you are an Atheist, nothing more, nothing less. If you admit you do not know then you are an agnostic atheist.

So I was asking you for "clarification" of something you have already appeared to answer before.

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Why would or do you think " Can an agnostic be anything other than an atheist?

To answer your quesiton: I asked you a question. I said NOTHING whatsoever about what I think

Nice, a non-answer as an answer Rolling Eyes

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@argome321,

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You can ask about me , but I can;t ask about you?

You can ask anything you want. But don't pretend that a question is an answer.

One more question:

Are you going to answer the question?

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@layman,

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Are you going to answer the question?

That a rhetorical question, right?

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@argome321,

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Nice, a non-answer as an answer Rolling Eyes

Heh. You ask a completely non-sensical question, to begin with. Look at it:

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Can an agnostic be anything other than an atheist?

How in the hell could you even think that I think ANYTHING about anything, when all I did was ask a question and a question is all you refer when asking "why I think x or y?" The question makes no sense.

By definition, a question does not make a statement of belief. That's why it's called a "question."

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@argome321,

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That a rhetorical question, right?

No, it is definitely NOT rhetorical.

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@layman,

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Nice, a non-answer as an answer Rolling Eyes

Heh. You ask a completely non-sensical question, to begin with. Look at it:

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Can an agnostic be anything other than an atheist?

How in the hell could you even think that I think ANYTHING about anything, when all I did was ask a question and a question is all you refer when asking "why I think x or y?" The question makes no sense.

Like I said I'm learning from the masters

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@layman,

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No, it is definitely NOT rhetorical.

Sarcasm, Sarcasm Layman

I'm stepping out for a while. I only mention this because you ask the last time you didn't hear from me for 20 minutes.

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@argome321,

Arg, it's frustrating enough to be unable to take someone at their word. It is frustrating enough for it to be impossible to understand what you "really mean' (which is apparently different from what you "really say"), because you refuse to say what you "really mean."

But it really takes the cake when you use your own denial, equivocation, and evasiveness as a basis for saying someone else is DISHONEST.

Know what I'm sayin?

You don't say that maybe you have been misunderstood.

You don't say that perhaps you weren't clear.

You say other people are LIARS for taking you at your word.

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@layman,

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But it really takes the cake when you use your own denial, equivocation, and evasiveness as a basis for saying someone else is DISHONEST.

When it comes to dishonest you are Frank are the masters.

Or perhaps it is my fault. Perhaps I gave you guys more credit then you guys deserve.

You took part of a statement and left out the total statement giving a false impression and interpretation of what I said, it is you and Frank that ask all the questions and answer none, You asked me personal question and I have answered them.
No, you two guys are doing the very thing that you are accusing me of.

Just asking, do you mirrors in your place of residence.

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@argome321,

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When it comes to dishonest you are Frank are the masters.

So you merely repeat your totally unfounded allegation, eh?

OK, we're through.

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@layman,

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b]So you merely repeat your totally unfounded allegation, eh?
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Our entire discourse on this topic will show that this is more than an allegation. Any impartial person who will read it will see who asked the questions and who answered, who was being manipulative and dishonest. I am more than confident that the post will bear this out.

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@Olivier5,

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For clarity's sake, Set is misunderstanding Layman here. Layman has in fact been arguing all along that agnosticism is a valid "tag"...

Thanks for taking the time to clarify, Ollie. I wasn't going to bother. He comes in here only to announce something like "the last few pages are pure bullshit." Then he promptly demonstrates that either (1) he hasn't even read them, or (2) he can't understand what has clearly been stated.

Anyone who actually read my posts on the topic, and who was capable of understanding, would know what my actual (as opposed to sarcastic) claims were.

He has a tendency to do that quite frequently, from what I've seen. He's not trying to "understand" much of anything. He's just looking for some excuse, real or imagined, to insult someone.

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@layman,

What a whiner you are. It was not i who took you to task for saying that agnosticism is not possible. I took you to task for not responding to that claim with anything other than a bullshit claim about "free thinkers." Why should anyone take the trouble to find out if you are being sarcastic when you don't take the trouble to give straight answers to legitimate questions? Now you're going to play our "poor, poor, pitiful me" routine, yet again.

If you were so damned interested in clarity and understanding, you could have pointed our your sarcasm long ago. You are a sad case, and you're also a devotée of the fallacy of the enumeration of favorable circumstances. I have thousands of interactions with other members which don't involve insult or sarcasm on either side--anywhere from a few to ten or more such interactions every day. Of course, if it's someone like you or Olive Tree, you're not going to know that because you're both just looking for something to whine about.

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@argome321,

argome321 wrote:

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He apparently is unable to see that he has not answered it...and he has been asked at least 6 times.

Just because my answer escapes you doesn't mean I haven't answered it, that's on you if you don't see it

You simply have not answered it.

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@layman,

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Thanks for taking the time to clarify, Ollie. I wasn't going to bother. He comes in here only to announce something like "the last few pages are pure bullshit." Then he promptly demonstrates that either (1) he hasn't even read them, or (2) he can't understand what has clearly been stated.

You can safely ignore Setanta. I was just using his cluelessness as an excuse to chip in. He doesn't like newcomers, at least those who don't kiss his tired ass. Many weaklings here do kiss his ass, BTW.

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@Frank Apisa,

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You simply have not answered it.

There is none so blind as those who will not see

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@argome321,

argome321 wrote:

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You simply have not answered it.

There is none so blind as those who will not see

Don't be so hard on yourself.

If you have answered it...was the answer YES or NO?

But you know as well as I...and anyone else following...that you have not answered it.

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