cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 11:46 am
@MWal,
"He won't come" because Jesus is a fictional character that never existed. You know, all those miracles to prove he's the son of god? That's almost too funny to contemplate.

Why would any god have to sacrifice his own son for humans to have eternal life? Isn't he god? Or, is god at the mercy of another god more powerful?
MWal
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 11:53 am
@cicerone imposter,
It sounds like to me God took up a deal with Death the undertaker to me? Christian Father God dealing with the devil.

I believe Jesus should have lived to prove eternal life lol.
neologist
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 12:04 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
What if dung heaps were blueberry hills?
Then Blueberry Hill would no longer to be a place to find your thrill.

Or, maybe cow pies would be served with whipped cream.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 12:09 pm
@MWal,
Once life was assured, it also guaranteed death; this planet is too small for all life forms to survive forever; it's logistically impossible.

Only trees have the longest life span, but they're also necessary to produce oxygen. The human destruction of forests only creates more problems for biological life on this planet.
MWal
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 12:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
If we realized eternal life we can accomplish sufficient space for all things. I don't believe people can be born forever with unique archetype.
Germlat
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 02:21 pm
@MWal,
I would settle for negligible senescence..
neologist
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 02:25 pm
@Germlat,
Well, if you drink enough beer. . .
Germlat
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 02:32 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Well, if you drink enough beer. . .

I don't think that helps..,but it would certainly help you not care.
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Setanta
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 02:33 pm
I'd be interested to know what policies Intrepid alleges that atheists have, and what power and influence they have to impose those policies on others.
MWal
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 02:53 pm
@Germlat,
You don't have to die. You are capable of happiness!
neologist
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 03:15 pm
@Setanta,
Yeah. I'd think atheists even more diverse a group than theists.
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Setanta
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 03:19 pm
Categorizing atheists brings to mind that tired, old expression, which nonetheless covers it well--herding cats.
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edgarblythe
 
  2  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 03:34 pm
Our secret policies are, being skeptical and adhering to no dogma. We shall subvert them and rule the world with our secret formula. Heh heh heh.
Setanta
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 03:37 pm
When i become benevolent dictator of the world, everyone will be required to believe in the benevolence of world dictators.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 03:40 pm
@edgarblythe,
You should use water resources to reach your goal. Mr. Green
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Intrepid
 
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Sat 23 Aug, 2014 05:15 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
When it comes down to it, all mankind would probably get along if they all kept their beliefs to themselves.

PS: From what I see here and on Facebook, you rarely take your own medicine. In practice, I have never seen you encourage Christians to keep their beliefs to themselves. It is only when atheists or agnostics state their beliefs clearly that you suggest "we all" better be quiet about them.


Perhaps that is because I have not seen Christians pushing their beliefs on others. Oh, sure, there are the crazies that post on threads like this just to get a reaction and stir up the pot. I do not consider these trouble makers to be Christians in the true sense.

As for myself, I have never bashed atheists or agonostics on this or any other thread. I have had disagreements, but I have made no attacks and have even clearly indicated my tolerance for those who hold different beliefs.

I could only hope that you and, some others, could do the same in kind. Sometimes I think that those who are the most vocal and feel the need to try and belittle others are doing so because they are really afraid that they may be wrong since they have no more proof of anything than those who think differently. If atheists are right (since you feel that there must be a right and wrong) then they should have no fear of any future judgement day.

If it turns out, in the end, that perhaps I personally have been wrong in my faith at least I will have the knowledge that I held firm to what I believed and did not try to force others to think as I do. I will also be happy with the fact that I lived my live in such a way as to not hold judgement. I have many friends who are atheist and I do not treat them any differently than those with whom I share as faith.

Many equate those with religious beliefs with some who would despise gays etc. If we truly believe that God created man, then He is responsible for ALL men including gay men and women.

I often hear people saying that belief in God is like belief in Santa Claus since Santa Claus does not exist. For many children, and even some adults, Santa Claus does exist because they want him to exist.

You follow me on Facebook? Cool.


Intrepid
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 05:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Once life was assured, it also guaranteed death; this planet is too small for all life forms to survive forever; it's logistically impossible.

Only trees have the longest life span, but they're also necessary to produce oxygen. The human destruction of forests only creates more problems for biological life on this planet.


How does the folly of man equate with whether there is a God or not? You can't blame God because you emphatically state that He does not exist. Why do you spend so much energy discussing something that does not exist?
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edgarblythe
 
  2  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 05:22 pm
Christians (not all) try to subvert science education, try to close separation of church and state, practice politics from the pulpit, knock on doors, try to exclude atheists from civil process - more, but you can see where I am going. We have to push back or get run over.
Germlat
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 05:24 pm
@MWal,
MWal wrote:

You don't have to die. You are capable of happiness!

If you mean that to accomplish "happiness", I should buy into some made up nonsense...then no...I took the blue pill( reference to The Matrix).
MWal
 
  1  
Sat 23 Aug, 2014 05:25 pm
@edgarblythe,
Use their scripture against them and turn the other cheek...
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