timur
 
  3  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 01:06 pm
Frank wrote:
Strong atheists actually have a belief on the matter...and that belief is that there are no gods.


I told you already that you don't know what you are talking about, Frank.

Yet you persist with your fantasies.

You are still coming with this bullshit.

It doesn't enter your mind that there is an "absence of beliefs" is some atheists' stance.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 01:31 pm
@timur,
timur wrote:

Frank wrote:
Strong atheists actually have a belief on the matter...and that belief is that there are no gods.


I told you already that you don't know what you are talking about, Frank.

Yet you persist with your fantasies.

You are still coming with this bullshit.

It doesn't enter your mind that there is an "absence of beliefs" is some atheists' stance.



Yes, I do, Timur. And I have said so...so your nastiness is uncalled for.

Strong atheists go a step further...and deny the existence of a particular god...or more often, the existence of any gods.


So what is your problem.
timur
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 01:45 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Well, we have a self designated expert on atheists: agnostic Frank!

edgarblythe
 
  2  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 01:53 pm
@Frank Apisa,
As for me, I believe there are no gods and I don't believe there are gods. Live steam. Dead steam. All a same same.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 01:56 pm
@timur,
timur wrote:

Well, we have a self designated expert on atheists: agnostic Frank!




I have said that some atheists simply are atheists because they lack belief in gods.

BUT there are some who assert that there are no gods.

You still haven't explained what your problem is.

Do you disagree with me?
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:00 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

As for me, I believe there are no gods and I don't believe there are gods. Live steam. Dead steam. All a same same.


So...you are a believer that there are no gods.

Fine.

I have never argued with you on that...and have often used your name as an example of an atheist who asserts there are no gods.

You once wrote to me: "There are no gods. Period!"

Can't get any more specific than that.

So...despite what Timur is beating around the bush about...there are some atheists who assert that there are no gods.

Which is exactly what I have said.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:01 pm
@timur,
Who gave Frank the designation of 'expert?' LOL
Oh, he did, himself.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I not only said it on here many times, I also said, it makes no difference how you say it.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Who gave Frank the designation of 'expert?' LOL
Oh, he did, himself.


I notice you gave yourself the designation of "above average" in the use of English grammar.

You suck at it, ci.

I have NEVER suggested I am an expert in anything...so your ho, ho, ho thingy is about on a level with your abilities in English.
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timur
 
  2  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:06 pm
My problem is that you "believe" that you know everything about atheists.

You make illusory assertions about them and pretend to know what they think.

In that field, you are no better that any other bible thumper.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:08 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

I not only said it on here many times, I also said, it makes no difference how you say it.


Okay!

Although some atheists simply note that they do not "believe" in gods...some atheists go a step further and do indeed assert that there are no gods.

That is all I've been saying.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:12 pm
@timur,
timur wrote:

My problem is that you "believe" that you know everything about atheists.


I do not do "believing" at all...and I KNOW for absolute certainty that I do not know everything about athesits.

If you have any statement that I have made about atheists or atheism that you consider incorrect...why not simply quote it and tell me why you disagree...

...rather than this nonsense in which you are engaging?

Do it!

Quote something I have said about atheists or atheism...and tell me why you think it is wrong.

Quote:
You make illusory assertions about them and pretend to know what they think.


I do not do anything of the sort.

Quote any comment I have made about atheists or atheism with which you are in disagreement...and we can discuss it.

I doubt you will...or that you will acknowledge that you cannot.

But that seems to be the way you operate.

Quote:
In that field, you are no better that any other bible thumper.


Quote any comment I have made about atheists or atheism with which you are in disagreement...and we can discuss it.

I doubt you will...or that you will acknowledge that you cannot.
timur
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:18 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Talk about beating around the bush!

I quoted you already a lot of times on this thread but you always persist in your crazy assertions.

I will quote you again, when I see it fit..
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:20 pm
@timur,
The best thing is to 'GET OFF HIS MERRY-GO-ROUND.' Trust me. LOL

I don't read over 90% of his posts, and I know for sure I'm not missing anything!
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:48 pm
@timur,
timur wrote:

Talk about beating around the bush!

I quoted you already a lot of times on this thread but you always persist in your crazy assertions.

I will quote you again, when I see it fit..


Quote anything I have said about atheists or atheism that is incorrect...and we can discuss it.

You are not quoting me...because I have not said anything that is incorrect. In fact, most of the things I have said about atheism and atheists...have also been said by atheists here.

But it is amusing watching you try to squirm around that. Wink
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:49 pm
@Frank Apisa,
When you are ready, of course, Timur...or as ci might say, "of coarse."
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

The best thing is to 'GET OFF HIS MERRY-GO-ROUND.' Trust me. LOL

I don't read over 90% of his posts, and I know for sure I'm not missing anything!


You wouldn't understand most of them, ci. You are too busy hating your country to pay attention.
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timur
 
  2  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:51 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Don't try that crap with me Frank..

You are a ****ing weasel.
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 02:58 pm
@timur,
timur wrote:

Don't try that crap with me Frank..

You are a ****ing weasel.


Nah...I am not a ****ing weasel.

Anyway...quote anything that I have said about atheists or atheism that you find incorrect...and I will discuss it.

I do NOT think you will quote anything...and I do not think you are man enough to acknowledge that all the things I have said are correct.

So...weasel away, Timur. Wink
timur
 
  3  
Fri 22 Aug, 2014 03:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
You are doing that crap again about manhood. Appealing to emotions is the your way to act as a weasel.

You stated countless asinine assertions and you have been called on them.

Acknowledge that you are a weasel and that you are wrong on many counts, especially your statements about atheists.
 

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