Atheism

@Wilso,

I'm an atheist Wilso. My philosophy on the matter is that we men have a duty to shag any lady who shows us the green light. To avoid such an onerous duty one should avoid women.

But a respectable married man coming that old trick about getting more sex than others gave me a chuckle. I have an excellent record seducing other blokes wives and they told me all I need to know about the marital bliss department. I think women want jobs for no other reason than to put themselves in the way of a change in sex partners. Women are not biologically set up for monogamy. They even get fed up with adultery if it goes on too long. They like a bit of fresh just as much as we do.

It isn't reading comprehension that's important. It is what is read. That written by those who had a choice. Marriage isn't called the "ball and chain" for no reason. The whole ethos of stag nights is that of a wake.

I think you must have led a sheltered life. Maybe because you are not very attractive or are skint.

The idea that atheism is not related to sex is strictly for the Agony Aunts. It has no other power source as Thomas demonstrated.

In The White Goddess Robert Graves uses the expression "intellectual homosexuality". The default position for chaps under the cosh.

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@Wilso,

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As many as there are atheists.

All communists share the same atheist philosophy , by and large, so this is simply not true.

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The point is that there isn't one you can ascribe to all atheists. Which is the point we've been trying to make.

Indeed, but that argument works for religion as well: you can't ascribe the crimes of a few religious people to all religious people.

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Maybe you need to take some reading comprehension classes.

Unfortunately for you, there are no such things as thinking classes.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Incidentally, we holy men don't do "sex".
It's been 12 years since my last -ahem- "romantic liason" and even that was nothing to write home about...

It's because you're gay ya idjit. Holy crap, how can you not know. You use this religious "holy men" bullshit to prop up your denial, you love Jesus because he's the only man you think you are "allowed" to love, you play with big knives to compensate for your feminine feelings, you hate gays because it hits too close to home, and you hang out on Atheist threads because you know religion is bullshit but you can't escape it because it's your shield against your own desires. Do yourself a favor and get a good psychiatrist, put your father's abuse in the past, come out of the closet, admit to yourself that you're a gay atheist and try to put a little bit of dignity back into your life. Sheesh.

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@rosborne979,

Ah-hahahahahahahahahahahaha . . . ordinarily, i am opposed to talking to the trolls, but that one was priceless. Kudos to Roswell!

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@Setanta,

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Setanta, and his ilk, do not belong on A2K never mind this thread. They are all trolls and control freaks and intellectual cowards of the lowest order.

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@rosborne979,

So, it's not low T?
How could I have missed that? Laughing

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Romeo said: Incidentally, we holy men don't do "sex".
It's been 12 years since my last -ahem- "romantic liason" and even that was nothing to write home about...
Rosborne replied: It's because you're gay ya idjit... you play with big knives to compensate for your feminine feelings, you hate gays because it hits too close to home, and you hang out on Atheist threads because you know religion is bullshit but you can't escape it...Do yourself a favor and get a good psychiatrist, put your father's abuse in the past...

1- Well I fancy the woman in the chip shop and go out of my way to buy my chips there rather than at other shops that only have men working behind the counter, so I definitely don't think I'm gay.
2- Also, playing with big knives is definitely a sign that I'm oozing high octane male testosterone from every pore.
3- I wouldn't say I hate gays, all I ask is that they keep their flies zipped when they're near me.
4- I pop into atheist forums because I like poking them through the bars of their cage with a stick.. Smile

5- My solicitor sent me to a psychiatrist in connection with that vigilante charge i was facing, but to our surprise the shrink pronounced me sane; i must be one of the few A2Kers who've got it in writing that i'm not bananas.
6- My old man couldn't face the fact that I might grow up to be brainer than him, so he embarked on a campaign of verbal abuse against me all through my childhood years to try to break my spirit. It didn't work though because I grew up to be the toughest person I know.
He died of liver cancer 30 years ago and I was in his fond thoughts right to the end, I think among the last words he said to my mother about me were "When's he going to get a bloody job?"

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@neologist,

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How could I have missed that?

How could anybody have missed it. The only thing that could make this clown more gay is if he was a catholic priest. Wink

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@Setanta,

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The basic problem with this subject having nothing to do with anything else other than sex is that it ratchets up the subjectivity, sex being so personal and all to neurotics, into the top end of the Red Zone. In this dangerous, and debilitating, zone the distortions created produce effects such as to cause those subjected to them to think of myths at the level of common vulgarity and thus, without further thought, as absurd fictions, when they are actually a form of verbal iconography for intellectuals and in the folklore of the peasantry.

Such a crass, and easy, distortion of the mental processes leads directly to an inability to read properly. The Bible, for example, when read in a mental state involving the constant thought--"this is a load of ****"---is impossible to understand in the same way that a Picasso is impossible to understand when viewed with a similar mindset.

That Christian theology, or any of the opposing heresies, whether more puritanical or more permissive, is to do with anything other than heterosexual sex is not even worth considering. Sex is the Theme of all true art. Without it there is only the journalism of the megalopolitans.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Don't worry Fabio, we love you the way you are... and since when is "gay" an insult anyway? Ros was just trying to win you over to his side of the street.

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@spendius,

"Although I am not for religion, I do think that we should show respect for anybody who believes honestly."

Karl Popper.

Setanta looks completely ridiculous citing Popper to us.

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@rosborne979,

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because he's the only man you think you are "allowed" to love,

With that ros, unconsciously I don't doubt, points to the transfer from Jesus to the Virgin Madonna of the accolade of Prime Symbol, which took place when the Christianity we know and love, who wouldn't love a teat like that?, came into being between about 1100 and 1500 and is the main source of European art.

Organised by the Structure of the Church through its patronage and other methods. Just as Stalin's atheist art was organised by the structure of the State.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Indeed, but that argument works for religion as well: you can't ascribe the crimes of a few religious people to all religious people.

As I pointed out on another post. I'm not a writer with the ability to hide my thoughts in a bunch of big words. I only have the capacity to write simple clear English, but understanding even that appears beyond your obviously minute intellect. You're either blinded by your prejudices, or you're a ******* halfwit. The latter is looking more likely.

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@rosborne979,

rosborne979 wrote:

Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Incidentally, we holy men don't do "sex".
It's been 12 years since my last -ahem- "romantic liason" and even that was nothing to write home about...

It's because you're gay ya idjit. Holy crap, how can you not know. You use this religious "holy men" bullshit to prop up your denial, you love Jesus because he's the only man you think you are "allowed" to love, you play with big knives to compensate for your feminine feelings, you hate gays because it hits too close to home, and you hang out on Atheist threads because you know religion is bullshit but you can't escape it because it's your shield against your own desires. Do yourself a favor and get a good psychiatrist, put your father's abuse in the past, come out of the closet, admit to yourself that you're a gay atheist and try to put a little bit of dignity back into your life. Sheesh.

If you're not a psychologist, you should be.

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@spendius,

I see that atheists are now discussing sex.

ros used a trick Freud tried when he claimed that the more a man denies that he is homosexual the more he is repressing that he is and hence the more deep seated his homosexuality and therefore the more it is necessary to undergo a course of Dr Freud's expensive chichanery.

Don Quixote can be shown to be a closet homosexual by this method: and all those who take an unusual interest in weapons and displays of prowess in their use.

And that's a turn up for the book it seems to me. That's the NSA pinned to the wall eh ros? And many a female sensibility has said similar things.

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@Wilso,

I am an atheist just like you, Wilso, but unlike you I am not a parrot. I have a brain that can think independently. And I can understand your posts - that's not the problem. The problem is that what they say is false.

If Atheism was only an absence of belief, you'd be less dogmatic and more open to other people's ideas than you actually are...

Massive crimes were committed by some atheists during the 20th century. Some of these crimes can legitimately be linked to atheism, either directly when these leaders implemented a tenet of their atheist philosophy (e.g. destroy religion), or more indirectly when their atheist philosophy helped justify their crimes.

It's very simple if you think of it: why is it you don't kill people around you (assuming you don't)? That beggar that you see at 1:00 am in a dark allay, why not end his misery? Nobody will see you, nobody will care... Why not, if you fear neither God nor the police?

The only reason why not, is because you believe it is morally bad to kill other people. (hopefully)

Atheism is not necessarily criminal, but if a society becomes predominantly atheist and gets rid of the fear of hell and of religious morals, it may need to replace old moral codes by something else. No society can live and prosper without some sort of common ethic.

I understand that most of you live in societies that are still deeply religious and with a vast majority of Christians, so it may seem as a lunacy for you to speak an atheist society. I live in a society that is largely atheist or at least secular, and the issue of forging a set of values that will work for all, including Muslims and Muslim "unconverts" (I mean the youth of Muslim origin who do not believe anymore), is an important one here. And I am pretty sure it will become important in your societies as well in a few decades.

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@Olivier5,

It is not really a question of "forging a set of values that will work for all" but also of inculcating them. Those values related to sex are very difficult to be legislated for because doing so makes the law applicable to the legislators and the enforcers.

Of course we might not have values in this regard and no sense of guilt or shame attaching to any activity between consenting adults.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Denial is NOT a river in Egypt.

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@spendius,

I agree with your last sentence. You'd have to explain to me what wrong is made when consenting adults are having some fun in the privacy of their bedroom or any other room for that matter.

I also agree that the issue is not just about how to forge new values but also how to spread and inculcate them. Public school has traditionally played this role in my country but the system is near collapsing.

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