spendius
 
  0  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 06:04 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
We're nobody, living nowhere--stuck on a rocky little planet orbiting a not terribly large or prepossessing star in the boondocks of just one of the billions of galaxies out there.


How lovely. How does "prepossessing" apply to a star?
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sun 9 Mar, 2014 06:37 am
Quote:
Setanta said: We're nobody, living nowhere--stuck on a rocky little planet orbiting a not terribly large or prepossessing star

Don't put yourself down mate-
Jesus said "Even the very hairs of your head are all numbered" (Matt 19:30)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/jedward.jpg
spendius
 
  0  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 07:16 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
I don't think anybody is bothered, Romeo, about Setanta putting himself down. It's his putting the rest of us down with glee that we need to worry about.

He doesn't really mean it. It's his shtick which is incomprehensible on his own argument. Why would a nobody even have shtick?

Why would a nobody help produce more nobodies bearing in mind the crushing burdens life has to offer in nowhere-land. Not that the help males provide is any big deal. More often than not it can't be helped.

It's "trousers down" shtick too. Nothing else to it. Justification for wanking, pre-marital rumpy-pumpy, adultery, divorce, abortion, orgies, porn, and homosexuality.

Taking into account how popular those activities are, and how dependent Media is on them, it's a wonder Setanta can't gather a coalition of the faithful and ride to power. Instead he's an eccentric. A member of a fringe group which can't even raise a gallop. And never could.

I bet he dare not read the Divine Marquis in case he finds out what atheism really means. Or meant in de Sade's times without our wonderful technology.
spendius
 
  0  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 09:41 am
@spendius,
Part 4 of Chapter 4 of Professor John Gray's book Straw Dogs is titled Atheism, The Last Consequence of Christianity.

Quote:
Unbelief is a move in a game whose rules are set by believers. To deny the existence of God is to accept the categories of monotheism. As these categories fall into disuse, unbelief becomes uninteresting and soon it is meaningless. Atheists say they want a secular world, but a world defined by the absence of the Christian's God is still a Christian world. Secularism is like chastity, a condition defined by what it denies. If atheism has a future, it can only be in a Christian revival; but in fact Christianity and atheism are declining together.

Atheism is a late bloom of a Christian passion for truth. No pagan is ready to sacrifice the pleasure of life for the sake of mere truth. It is artful illusion, not unadorned reality, that they prize. Among the Greeks, the goal of philosophy was happiness and salvation, not truth. The worship of truth is Christian cult.

The old pagans were right to shudder at the earnestness of the early Christians. None of the mystery religions in which the ancient world abounded claimed what Christians claimed--that all other faiths were in error. For that very reason, none of their followers could ever become an atheist. When Christians insisted that they alone possessed the truth they condemned the lush profusion of the pagan world with a damning finality.

In a world of many gods, unbelief can never be total. It can only be rejection of one god and acceptance of another, or else--as in Epicurus and his followers--the conviction that the gods do not matter since they have long ceased to bother about human affairs.

Christianity struck at the root of pagan tolerance of illusion. In claiming that there is only one true faith, it gave truth a supreme value it had not had before. It also made disbelief in the divine possible for the first time. The long-delayed consequence of Christian faith was an idolatry of truth that found its most complete expression in atheism. If we live in a world without gods, we have Christianity to thank for it.


As the human condition does not change it will not tolerate a world without gods and thus atheism is the harbinger of neo-paganism.

Atheist's posts on this thread express a fundamental rejection of the divine. They are turgid, meaningless and inspired by one hing only--a little willie.
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panzade
 
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Sun 9 Mar, 2014 05:07 pm
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147/panzade/arthurclarke_zps66ea558c.jpg
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 05:23 pm
Quote:
It is beyond the purpose of this article to elaborate the ethics of rational egoism. But those who see the glaring need for a rational (i.e., non-mystical), life-serving (i.e., non-sacrificial) morality—a morality for living and achieving happiness on Earth—will find it elaborated in the works of Ayn Rand.42

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2008-fall/mystical-ethics-new-atheists.asp#.Uxya-VH80q0.twitter
Are atheists conservatives?
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 05:44 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Are atheists conservatives?

The article did seem to lean hard toward extreme conservatism or sociopathy.

I would be willing to bet that some atheist vote that way but I think atheist are like any other group of people, They are all different.
spendius
 
  0  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 05:51 pm
@reasoning logic,
Having eschewed the divine, rl, they all talk in a turgid, vulgar monotone and, to keep us in order, will have to invent hell on earth to replace the one in the afterlife.
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spendius
 
  0  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 05:59 pm
@reasoning logic,
The latest groundbreaking, breathtaking scientific breakthrough is a 90% accurate blood test predicting the onset of dementia within 3 years.

Would you take the test rl?
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hingehead
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 07:17 pm
@coldjoint,
Atheists can be conservatives, you don't define someone by what they don't believe. Lots of people don't believe in Santa Claus but it's ridiculous to consider them a homogenous group.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ca/7a/55/ca7a550b699f4241524afad132fc64f4.jpg
hingehead
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 07:41 pm
Pardon my silliness

http://cdn.themetapicture.com/media/funny-toilet-paper-roll-empty.jpg
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edgarblythe
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 07:47 pm
There are lots of conservatives who accept evolution. None are politicians. Likely, none are teabaggers. One of the most famous atheist/evolutionists of the 20th Century (Phil. Wylie) identified as conservative.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 08:12 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
but it's ridiculous to consider them a homogenous group.

Thanks Captain Obvious, that was a question not a statement.
hingehead
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 08:50 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Quote:
but it's ridiculous to consider them a homogenous group.



Thanks Captain Obvious, that was a question not a statement.


And that's an answer, Captain Comprehension.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 08:57 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
And that's an answer, Captain Comprehension.

No, it was an opinion. Of all threads this one has no answers.
hingehead
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 09:02 pm
@coldjoint,
Dismal definition. Opinions are answers. Some more verifiable than others. Happy for you to disprove my answer, by proving all atheists are the same in anything other than a lack of belief in deities.

So if I ask how you are, I can dismiss whatever you tell me as 'merely an opinion'. Your logic has you disappearing up your own recursive fundament.

PS, I asked you about Ted Nugent because your avatar initials were CJ, and you suddenly reminded me of a former A2K regular, CJHSA, who loved Ted Nugent.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 09:08 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
Dismal definition.


Dismal response.
hingehead
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 09:55 pm
@coldjoint,
I love the well organised evidence to support your argument, Brainiac.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 09:59 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
I love the well organised evidence to support your argument, Brainiac.

I am not arguing.
hingehead
 
  1  
Sun 9 Mar, 2014 10:01 pm
@coldjoint,
Clearly.
 

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