Atheism

Some people are just too sophisticated and intelligent to be convinced.

A group of soldiers in a war saying that they're atheists is not empirical evidence for atheists in the metaphorical "foxholes"?

What do you require, then? What more evidence can you have that someone is an atheist than his/her own profession that such is the case?

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A group of soldiers in a war saying that they're atheists is not empirical evidence for atheists in the metaphorical "foxholes"?

What do you require, then? What more evidence can you have that someone is an atheist than his/her own profession that such is the case?

Certainly something more than mere assertions.

I don't know why there is a dispute over the authenticity of the photo. It shouldn't matter. Anyone being honest will know there are atheists in fox holes. You can't quit knowing something just because death is imminent. I knew an atheist who on his death bed continued to despise such notions. He could not be the only one.

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Some people are just too sophisticated and intelligent to be convinced.

No,no Frank. Some of us are agnostic about the picture. We have no evidence that the chaps in the picture have been in foxholes or are even soldiers.

And for someone who opines, every silly post, that to acknowledge what you do not know – is a display of strength and to pretend you know what you truly don’'t – is a display of weakness it is rather odd to find you coming to any conclusions about the picture unless you know whether or not those blokes have ever been in a foxhole (shitting oneself is the obvious implication) or are even soldiers.

One doesn't have to be particularly sophisticated and intelligent to know that there are implications in the picture. It is a question of whose implications they are. And it is not just the picture that has a range of implications. There is its being posted on A2K.

What you mean by saying that the implication is obvious, or you only think it is, is that what is obvious to you should be obvious to everybody; which is a symptom of megalomania.

From where we are, as agnostics on the matter and unwilling to believe in things without evidence, a weakness you say, all we might safely imply is that the picture was posed. It was thought up as a piece of propaganda. It wasn't a spontaneous slice of life caught by a camera. It had a motive. It had logistics. As did posting it on here.

Did you see the picture of the President executing a Chinese prisoner on the gun threads? You knew that was faked.

With even simple technology the message could be what anybody wanted.

Nah!! You answer the post eh? That tripe is trolling.

Your agnosticism is tailored.

Never mind that. Answer the post. You might as well stamp your foot, slam the door and stride off down the hallway with angry steps as write you last two posts.

Well--don't start ranting about people believing things they have no evidence for.

That picture is not the way to promote the atheist cause. An explanation of the benefits of atheism is what is required.

An explanation of the benefits of atheism is what is required.

That is all I was saying.

In my opinion, it was an excellent, clever response to what I see as an unnecessarily insulting, demeaning perspective of atheists.