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I have respected snood for a long time. Thought of him as a friend. I guess that's why I took it so hard when he went off on us like that. He still has many good qualities, and I would gladly have a cup of coffee with him, should he ever stop near enough to Tomball.

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So that is two prominent atheists on this thread who have refused to answer the question of whether their presentation of atheism in glowing terms and their criticisms of Christians is intended to convert everyone to their viewpoint.

Obviously, if the question is on Ignore they cannot answer it but that is the very reason why they have the question blotted out of their attention.

As things stand it looks like they wish to discuss the experience of atheism in a Christian society which is tantamount to their acceptance of it. One supposes that such experiences are similar to those of any vociferous minority whose opinions are not acceptable to the large majority.

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@spendius,

you keep asking atheists to crusade, spendi.

crusades are you guys's thing.

it's not a war.

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Spendi wrote:

One supposes that such experiences are similar to those of any vociferous minority whose opinions are not acceptable to the large majority.

The problem is that you belong to such vociferous minorities.

People see you as a fierce defender of christianity, while, on your own admission, you are not religious.

I wonder what people would think if they really understood what it entails...

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@Francis,

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I wonder what people would think if they really understood what it entails...

Yeah--it does seem to be beyond the comprehension of participants I must admit. What can I do about people who are thick, or blinkered or obtuse or all three.

I'll tell you what it entails. Keeping out atheism is what and my position has been strengthened on that little matter by A2K's atheists. I'm not up for a drastic change to our way of life. If you lot are you should try tempting us to embrace your beliefs.

Do you want to convert everybody to atheism? Or are you like the street furniture wrecker who would not like everybody to be because if they were he would no longer by naughty.

Jesus was considered by His contempories to be a man of no religion.

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@spendius,

Talk about obtuse...

LOL

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Spendi wrote:

What can I do about people who are thick, or blinkered or obtuse or all three.

And what can I do about people who know it all?

and wrote:

I'll tell you what it entails.

Yeah -tell me, because the rest of your post doesn't say anything about it..

and wrote:

I'm not up for a drastic change to our way of life.

Why the hell do you suppose I am?

and wrote:

If you lot are you should try tempting us to embrace your beliefs.

This is a major mistake about atheists. In no way would I try tempting you, I'm sufficiently busy with my own temptations..

and wrote:

Do you want to convert everybody to atheism?

That would be denying the very essence of atheism, leave people alone..

and finally wrote:

Jesus was considered by His contempories to be a man of no religion.

Intending to be his successor, Spendi, are you?

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@hingehead,

hingehead wrote:

Perfectly, I thought he was seeking moral justification after the fact. You called him on it, so he laid his fiendishly cunning 'I told you so' trap. That was how it played out in my mind anyway - he actually started the thread a couple of weeks before - maybe because the atheists were being respectful in it he thought he'd poke their hive? Beats me. Snood used to be a happy dood but a couple of times recently rather than turn the other cheek he's beaten people over the head with it.

Surely you know the difference between fiendishly cunning traps and getting targeted.

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@hingehead,

Snoods thread is running hot. Almost a whole page since January. About as well as this one would do without the existence of challenging opinions. I think we find our more about ourselves and each other through arguments than agreements. I know the purpose of this thread was to avoid that, but it would be less than a page if it had. I think the omnipresent Christians helps us understand what kind of lions we are.

I think Christians with torches and pitchforks is part of the reality of any attempt of atheists to gather together or communicate their ideas.

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@hingehead,

The internet in hell? Will I finally get wifi? This is great news!

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@Eorl,

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I think Christians with torches and pitchforks is part of the reality of any attempt of atheists to gather together or communicate their ideas.

Leaving out references to Mr Burrough's "switchboard" I think it is only the communication of ideas that I am concerned about. Gathering together is not important. They have a lot going for them in the sex department and they could easily really catch on.

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@Eorl,

I see your point, but it gets damned irritating when the thread was unusual in that the primary post was that it was for atheist conversation; it seems the majority posters are the naysayers that fail to read and absorb. I think many to most of us atheists have mentioned somewhere along the line that we aren't speaking here to convince anyone else to join our non-club. We don't, if people understand what they've read here, have a club to ask anyone to join.

Spendius, for example, has read that many times in this thread (and over the years) and he dismisses it since it doesn't fit his box, and addresses the issue repetitively, boink, boink, boink again. I think of him as a pest as far as this thread goes. I rarely have spendi on ignore as an a2k function.
Far as I know I'm ok with Snood and Intrepid and many other believers on a2k.
I'm not anti belief in a god; I just don't share it.

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@ossobuco,

Wifi? It's hell remember - we'll all be using these:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zuoLvDUY4wg/TVDfmB8g0LI/AAAAAAAAJJ0/qHdEMgy4mew/s400/modems_4.jpg

at 300 baud your average youtube video will take a month to download - not that it matters because all the puters will be running Windows ME and displaying nothing but the blue screen of death.

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@Eorl,

It's true. This thread is like a self perpetuating experiment. Started out to share what it's like to be an atheist in a largely christian society, and then the lovely christians come in and give us live case studies. Very sweet.

I don't think they should stop posting here at all, at least the ones that have something to contribute. The occasional bungee christian that drops in, let's us know God will judge us, and ascends out of here again does grate a little, but it's no biggie - I can put up with that to see some of the great vids and pics people have posted and the anecdotes shared. I've got the two attention seeking spazzes on ignore and mostly I enjoy this thread.

Earlier snood had posted something very reasonable, where he confessed he had an inbuilt prejudice against any atheist before he knew anything about them - that's a cool piece of honesty. 'Trep will get his hackles up occasionally but will eventually show his sense of humour, Aidan tries to be civil (if God gives her strength to do her job then he gets a pat on the back).

As you say the more annoying ones are just like little scratching posts for our lion claws.

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@hingehead,

Ok, you've got me howling laughing..

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@spendius,

Your quote: Jesus was considered by His contempories to be a man of no religion.

If you think that this is true what makes you think that it is?

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@edgarblythe,

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Surely you know the difference between fiendishly cunning traps and getting targeted.

To-may-to, to-mar-to Wink

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@reasoning logic,

The dominant priesthood thought of him as a whacko with anti-religious ideas . This means he was more a humanist than the elitist priests .

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@hingehead,

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not that it matters because all the puters will be running Windows ME and displaying nothing but the blue screen of death.

Where's the punishment in that, Hinge? The blue screen of death has to hit at precisely the right moment to exact the greatest punishment.

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@JTT,

OK, how about just when Flash says buffering complete on the youtube video that's taken two weeks to download?

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