spendius
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:01 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
Atheists don't need to impress. You are on a horse with no name.


I didn't say they did osso. I was only speaking of atheists talking about art.
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ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:02 pm
@aidan,
Start your own thread. This is your thing in a thread about how us atheists get along in our lives. The thread is still about that.

Go fish.
JPB
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:02 pm
@aidan,
But that's the point! Some of you NEED an origin that makes sense. Good. You have one. Go for it. Live with it, love it, embrace it. The one you have doesn't make sense to me in the least.
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aidan
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:02 pm
@JPB,
Okay - fair enough. That explains your belief.
I see it totally differently - thus - I wouldn't expect you to believe what I believe.
By the same token - maybe you all can stop calling people like me stupid and delusional for viewing the world as I view it and believing what I believe.
hingehead
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:03 pm
@aidan,
Quote:
But some of us need an origin that makes sense.


Then those some are destined to an uncomfortable span of existence in the short to medium term (at least).
Setanta
 
  0  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:05 pm
I enjoy the comic relief you provide, Hinge.


Aze, there was no question--your "answer" is not just silly, it was unnecessary.
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aidan
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:05 pm
@hingehead,
Why do you say that? I'm chuffed with what I see every day.


spendius
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:05 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
This is your thing in a thread about how us atheists get along in our lives.


That's what I'm trying to get you to do osso. All we have had so far is how atheists want the thread to be about how they get on with their lives but nothing about how they do. And denigrating religion.
JPB
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:13 pm
@aidan,
I don't know who "you all" are, but you're going to have to show me where I called you anything like stupid or delusional. I did write and delete the word "obtuse" three times about 10 minutes ago. Then I laughed out loud when you used the same word yourself.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:13 pm
How can a magical god make more sense than any other thoughts on origins of the universe? Presto there was a god. Presto he made the vast universe by willing it so for a handful of ragged animals on a tiny speck out there somewhere. Presto he had a magic son, human but also god. Presto believe in them/him (or a trinity) and be given magical post life rewards. (A god that magically grows more sophisticated as humans grow more so). But god takes part in our lives to help us in doubt/sickness/despair! (although millions can die in concentration camps simultaneously). Oh yeah. Lots more sense than spending lifetimes studying and basing theories on observable information.
ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:14 pm
@spendius,
We spend endless time here answering clowns as distractants or the odd honest questioner.

Why would one sensitive atheist or a new one try to post here, when all is blasted?

Denigrating religion? That isn't what this thread is about. You are a balloonist, spendi. Fear speaking.
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hingehead
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:15 pm
@aidan,
What JPB said Aidan: http://able2know.org/topic/141106-202#post-4483482
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wayne
 
  3  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:16 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
But on absence, tell me, what do you feel when you watch really bad tv shows? Let me guess - lack of interest. And certainly not some belief in your lack of interest in the shows, gathering members as you go. You would change the channel


I think I get that. It sounds similar to what setanta expressed when I asked him.
There is a certain humility in that, which I admire.
That would kind of free up ones mind to focus on being human, I suppose.

I am of the understanding, then, that the atheist doesn't reject god ( as the theist would have us believe). It's maybe a bit like the emperor's new clothes, nothing to see.
hingehead
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:17 pm
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20100819.gif
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aidan
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:19 pm
@JPB,
No, as far as I know - you never have JPB. I can't remember who specifically has - but I know I've been made to feel like an idiot for viewing it all differently.

I don't believe God is magical - I just believe 'It' 'is', and 'was' before any of us were.

That's all. Just something that was there first. Before all of 'this' and 'us'.
Not magical - just a 'fact'.

It's hard to explain. I can only say that I believe that someone like me didn't come up with 'IT'.
And I do see it as and call 'IT' 'miraculous'.
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ossobuco
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:19 pm
@wayne,
You are getting it.
hingehead
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:22 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
god that magically grows more sophisticated as humans grow more so


Love that EB - remember back in the 1700s when he suddenly remembered that he did stick the Earth revolving around the sun? Easy to forget something you did in a day back in 4,414 BC, I guess.
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ossobuco
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:33 pm
@wayne,
The whole thing of 'rejecting god' bores us. Not to speak for Set. If I tried that I might have to eat some tranna (Toronto food, which happens to be great) stuff.
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Setanta
 
  3  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:45 pm
@wayne,
wayne wrote:
That would kind of free up ones mind to focus on being human, I suppose.


This is a key point in my view. Einstein said of his theory of special relativity that it "beckoned like a liberation." That is how i felt about chucking the whole god dodge. Rejecting that silly superstition doesn't give one license, it gives one responsibility for one's own decisions.
wayne
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:48 pm
@ossobuco,
My formative years, spent with a fanatical mother, created obstacles I am still seeking to overcome. This thread has done a lot to increase my understanding.

I have never been prone to believing fairy tales, which is somewhat burdensome.
As a result I have faced a lifelong struggle with belief. I can readily see the problems faced by the atheist in a largely religious society.

From your previous posts, it sounds as though you have worked through this yourself in the past.
 

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