wayne
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:51 pm
@Setanta,
I am beginning to understand the courage involved in that.
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aidan
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:51 pm
@Setanta,
Yeah - see - here we go. People who don't believe that people like them could have created the earth are not humble and automatically don't take responsibility for their actions.

So, in other words, if you say you or someone like you couldn't have created the earth that's the OPPOSITE of being humble and automatically absolves you from all personal responsibility...huh?

Why can it not just be that I think that world was 'planned' or 'designed' and you don't.
But that we both might be intelligent and responsible, moral people who must monitor our behavior and be 'good' people.
We might even be able to agree on what a 'good' person is or does!
Or do you believe it's all dependent on a label?
JPB
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:59 pm
@aidan,
Wow! Defensive much? He didn't say any of those thngs. Where'd all that come from?
aidan
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:08 pm
@JPB,
Satanta said:
Quote:
Rejecting that silly superstition doesn't give one license, it gives one responsibility for one's own decisions.

Well obviously we interpret language differently JPB - my definition or personification or illustration of 'miracle' is not the same of yours.

So maybe 'silly' and 'superstition' and 'license' or 'responsibility for one's own decisions' (or the implied lack of) from people who still partake of the 'silly superstition' mean something different for you than it does to me.

I'm not defensive - I'm just observant. And there you go - assigning labels.

Please observe that I've yet to assign a label to you - or any other person who sees things differently or believes differently than I do.

Have a good night and delight in your spontaneously produced (from nothing into nothing) world tomorrow.
I gotta hit the sack - morning comes early here.

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ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:14 pm
@wayne,
I understand, Wayne.

I don't want to push you in any direction.

I'm here though.
hingehead
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:18 pm
@hingehead,
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0906/atheism-you-cant-blame-the-lions-on-us-we-just-rooted-for-th-demotivational-poster-1245448699.jpg
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ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:19 pm
@aidan,
Honey, you are way off thread and hijacking. Start your own thing.

Yes, I take honey as a diminutive.
aidan
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:19 pm
Finally!!! Some indication of what you might believe instead of only what you DON'T believe.

Nice one.
ossobuco
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:22 pm
@aidan,
You can take it as all designed.

So, what does this have to do with this thread? You want to hear yourself, on a thread about us atheists getting to talk.
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aidan
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:23 pm
@ossobuco,
Okay - Osso - I'm tired and anyway I don't know what you're talking about.

but thanks for calling me 'honey'. Only my dad ever called me that - and I was missing it...maybe you could also call me sweetheart- it would do my heart good - it'd be very christian of you.

For real though - I only answered the atheists posts. If they'd stop talking to me - I'll stop talking to them - even though no one ever did answer my question.

Night ya'll - I'll leave you alone for another six months now.
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ossobuco
 
  0  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:23 pm
@aidan,
mmm?
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Setanta
 
  0  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:37 pm
@aidan,
You should seek professional psychiatric counselling. Either that, or expert instruction in the English language.
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ossobuco
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:47 pm
@aidan,
aidan wrote:

Yeah - see - here we go. People who don't believe that people like them could have created the earth are not humble and automatically don't take responsibility for their actions.

So, in other words, if you say you or someone like you couldn't have created the earth that's the OPPOSITE of being humble and automatically absolves you from all personal responsibility...huh?

Why can it not just be that I think that world was 'planned' or 'designed' and you don't.
But that we both might be intelligent and responsible, moral people who must monitor our behavior and be 'good' people.
We might even be able to agree on what a 'good' person is or does!
Or do you believe it's all dependent on a label?


It took me a bit to comprehend this post.
First, take it elsewhere.
Second, please take it elsewhere.

Please bother to read the opening post.
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wayne
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:58 pm
@ossobuco,
Thanks Osso, don't worry about pushing me anywhere, never been known to happen Smile

I'll tell you something that affected me greatly.
A number of years ago, I saw a photograph of a small refugee child, in Africa, sitting by the side of the road surrounded by waiting vultures.( The Artist later took his own life)
I've thought that the religions of the world would do better to take down their phony images from the wall and place that photo in their stead.
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ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 08:11 pm
I know that photo and I think some of us posting here may.
wayne
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 08:13 pm
@ossobuco,
I thought you might.
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edgarblythe
 
  5  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 08:14 pm
Every time a believer starts in on this thread, we end up expected to make the same reassuring statements again and again. Here it is. You can be a good, intelligent person and believe in a god. Many if not most believers are likely moral and have integrity. That atheists don't see it the same way is not a call to war. Atheists and believers can be friends. Please start your own thread to argue about it.
ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 08:20 pm
@ossobuco,
Wayne, I'm interested in photography.
Check out Salgado.

But, re this thread, I'm interested in whatever discourse can happen between not very interested non believers...not at all meaning to shut up others, but not wanting for us to be somehow obliterated.
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JPB
 
  2  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 08:32 pm
@edgarblythe,
No kidding. That was one of the most bizarre exchanges I've ever seen.
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ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 19 Jan, 2011 08:46 pm
Salgado's photos are not always just accessible.

As it happens, I saw his work for real in the basement in a show (like, no one there) of the Art Institute when some of us met in Chicago (hi, all of you, I loved that day). JPB helped a2kers navigate, she knows the place, and I was a brat and dived around in the building as is my way.

I dunno, the Salgado photos may still be there in archives..
 

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