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Who will win the senatorial election in Massachusetts ?

 
 
Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:19 pm
@Gala,
They think they are socialist...
Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:20 pm
@realjohnboy,
There is a Kennedy - no relation - he is so far behind it isn't funny. I think he got about 10 votes total so far. (not 10% - 10 votes). He wasn't bad though in the debates. He sounds like and I believe he is a libertarian - which is the way I slant - quite possibly why I liked some of what he had to say.
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Gala
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:29 pm
@ehBeth,
Yeah, your boyfriend seems to not only be an expert in History, but apparently he's all knowing when it comes to a woman's reproductive cycles.

http://able2know.org/topic/140201-2

ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:30 pm
@Gala,
Oh, I see. He was goofin' on ya.
Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:30 pm
@realjohnboy,
Here's a different point of view of the larger turnout - stating the higher turnout means it is better for Brown...

Experts said the higher turnout was good news for Scott, in that it likely meant that independents - who often stay out of special elections but have trended toward Scott - were coming out.

"High turnout benefits Republicans because intensity is on their side," said the Brookings Institute's Darrell West. "They are the ones who are ticked off and the people unhappy with the current direction of the country."

I suppose it could be slanted either way...

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/01/19/2010-01-19_mass_hysteria_.html#ixzz0d61Gcjwn
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:36 pm
This is crazy - Stocks are up especially in the health care sector as investors think that Brown will win.
Green Witch
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:37 pm
@Linkat,
The insurance companies win either way.
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Gala
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:37 pm
@Linkat,
No, they do not. The wealthy Liberals of Cambridge, Mass are no different than the wealthy Liberals of Takoma Park, Maryland or Boulder, Colorado. They make a lot of money and are willing to pay more in taxes to support social programs but they never ever, ever want to see a halfway house in their neighborhood.

They're snobs, they demand much from the cashiers and workers at their local food coops, and proudly display their Obama/Biden bumper stickers on their Subaru wagons. They wear Birkenstocks and are often quite hairy, and they don't care if their neighbors are a married couple named Adam and Steve. They are not Socialists.
Gala
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:39 pm
@ehBeth,
He's better off sticking with history than taking creative license with female bodily functions.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:45 pm
@Gala,
Quote:
No, they do not. The wealthy Liberals of Cambridge, Mass are no different than the wealthy Liberals of Takoma Park, Maryland or Boulder, Colorado. They make a lot of money and are willing to pay more in taxes to support social programs but they never ever, ever want to see a halfway house in their neighborhood.

They're snobs, they demand much from the cashiers and workers at their local food coops, and proudly display their Obama/Biden bumper stickers on their Subaru wagons. They wear Birkenstocks and are often quite hairy, and they don't care if their neighbors are a married couple named Adam and Steve. They are not Socialists.


I don't wear Birkenstocks.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:53 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Well, that's in large part b/c he has had to moderate and make deals to achieve goals once in office of the president - whereas in the campaign, everything is golden and rosy.

True, governing is not the same as campaigning. The current president appears to have had more problem with that transition than his predecessors.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I will say that Obama continually warned folks that it would be a long, hard slog and that we would have to take what we could get for some time. I wonder why nobody remembers that part?


A remarkable statement in view of your own often overbearing triumphalism of just a couple of months ago.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 03:55 pm
@Gala,
Gala wrote:

No, they do not. The wealthy Liberals of Cambridge, Mass are no different than the wealthy Liberals of Takoma Park, Maryland or Boulder, Colorado. They make a lot of money and are willing ....


Boulder, perhaps, but certainly not Tacoma Park MD which is a rather seedy old suburb of Washington. Did you mean Montgomery County MD, Bethesda or perhaps Potomac ?
parados
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 04:15 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:


True, governing is not the same as campaigning. The current president appears to have had more problem with that transition than his predecessors.
And when did Cheney schedule the first meeting to discuss terrorism? Everything is relative if you want to talk transition.

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 04:22 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
A remarkable statement in view of your own often overbearing triumphalism of just a couple of months ago.


I have always maintained that it would be very difficult for us to enact change, and why wouldn't it be? Considering the amount of money entrenched interests can bring to play, that was always going to be the case.

Nevertheless, the situation remains the same now as then: the Dems have the numbers to pass bills. Obama has been pretty effective in his first year, as presidents go; if HC reform gets nailed down, he will be the most successful first-term prez (in terms of legislation passed) in a few generations.

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 04:33 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
If you measure success in terms of how much money has been wasted or junk pushed through Congress, to drive up debt, and so forth, as one poster asserted on this forum, yes Obama has been "successful," but reasonable people would have to say that is a weird definition of "success."
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 04:39 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

If you measure success in terms of how much money has been wasted or junk pushed through Congress, to drive up debt, and so forth, as one poster asserted on this forum, yes Obama has been "successful," but reasonable people would have to say that is a weird definition of "success."


You call needed reforms and meaningful changes 'junk,' because you have a very twisted and antiquated view of the world, Okie. Fortunately, we don't seem to rely upon your opinion for much analysis around here, but rather, sort of a comic relief.

Cycloptichorn
littlek
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 04:53 pm
@Gala,
Gala, do you live here?
okie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 04:57 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

You call needed reforms and meaningful changes 'junk,' because you have a very twisted and antiquated view of the world, Okie.
Cycloptichorn

If you consider the constitution, freedom, liberty, and citizenship in the form of individual responsibility as becoming twisted and antiquated, then I suppose you might have a point. The founders might have been considered to be rather twisted by the establishment in England in the 18th Century as well, cyclops.

Go Scott Brown!!!!
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 05:00 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

You call needed reforms and meaningful changes 'junk,' because you have a very twisted and antiquated view of the world, Okie.
Cycloptichorn

If you consider the constitution, freedom, liberty, and citizenship in the form of individual responsibility as becoming twisted and antiquated, then I suppose you might have a point. The founders might have been considered to be rather twisted by the establishment in England in the 18th Century as well, cyclops.


The things you advocate for have nothing to do with any of that, Okie. You are interested in one thing and one thing only: your own personal greed. I don't know why you even bother denying it, it's clearly obvious that your intent (when it comes to legislation) is to support the candidate or policy which taxes you the least and helps others the least, because you don't give a **** about anything other than your own personal bottom line, and ensuring that you are kept safe from Terrorism (which is just another way of protecting your stuff).

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 05:08 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclops, you will find your agenda, by looking up CPUSA Election Platform 2004 in the link provided, and I can guarantee you that it looks nothing like the constitution or anything like what the founders envisioned. Only a left wing kook or a whacko would think so.

http://www.cpusa.org/

By the way, the Dems are the most greedy, they cannot keep their grubby hands off of anything and everything they do not own or earn. Accusing people that earn what they have of being greedy is typical of Marxists, cyclops, so keep it up, you have learned well.
 

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