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Proof of nonexistence of free will

 
 
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 11:54 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
It's just a bunch of mumbo jumbo, but because it is 'philosophically inclined' you hope to give off that impression to others.

You're like a puppy wagging its tail at the master(others) hoping 'they' will throw you a bone because you're 'so cute'.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 12:06 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
...oh and on top of that you can also loose all the à priori concepts like space and time...guess what ? yeah again, functions in the System, no background !
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 12:08 am
@JPLosman0711,
How old are you ? Really ? You seam sixteen...must be it...either you can say something related to what I wrote or you just prove yourself an idiot in public !
(How ironic...you are the one who follows with no personality like a rabbit what Dasein says...)
...I tell you what...join the club with Hexhammer...same kind of no real, nothing to say or criticize, idiocy...
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 12:26 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Alright, one more time, but this is my last try.

If you really 'knew' what you were talking about right now you wouldn't play the 'insult' card. Insults are an attempt to lay the burden of communication on the other person. Where is this 'public' of which you speak? How is it that I should somehow become responsible for this text? Am I supposed to take that as some sort of threat?

You're running around in circles here, I suggest you quit before you pass out.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 12:35 am
@JPLosman0711,
Insult ??? After what you just did post above ? and you expect what, a hug ?
Either you can demonstrate a fault in my reasoning, which is not even particularly exclusively my own, although I get to it far before I read any of its formal contents, (Information Theory of Everything) or you drop it...now you are the one who insulted without pointing nothing concrete against my, lets say, wild dissertation, that much is fair...I´m still hoping to see something aside you childish remarks...
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 12:40 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Ignored.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 12:42 am
@JPLosman0711,
...as I said, nothing to say, really you are a joke ! Rolling Eyes
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 12:47 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Why are you still clinging to your silly post? In my 'mind', it happened eons and eons ago.

All you're doing is throwing up a 'game' that only you know the rules to.

Even if I did somehow know the rules and went along with your game, 'we' would just end up going in circles that you've already mapped out.

Stop hiding by using the past to explain the present, you've got it backwards my friend.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 01:16 am
@JPLosman0711,
Quote:
Stop hiding by using the past to explain the present, you've got it backwards my friend.


...funny how you can´t see the fault in there...not just in logic, but even considering the 2 law of thermodynamics...
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 08:50 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Where/what is this 'logic' you speak of......?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 09:37 am
@JPLosman0711,
can you remember when you learn the first equations ?

Kind of 1 + x = 3 which also can be composed as 3 - x = 1. There you have it !
You assume one is possible while the other is n´t...

Your second error is build upon causality and the direction of the arrow of time...if for one it is true the present justify´s the past for other it cannot cause it, given the degree of entropy in a system never decreases...at best in an holistic Hegelian perspective the past has in itself the functional disclosure of what is to come thus rendering the timely sense of cause obsolete...
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 10:06 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
You really haven't the slightest clue of what you're talking about.

Who's to say 1+1=2? What if it had always been 1+1=4? What if whoever decided that it was 1+1=2, changed their mind and made it 1+1=50??? 'Math' is another one of our interesting 'subject/principles'. It's a terrific system of very agreeable, stern, 'logical', understandable, provable and safe conceptualizations that we have used to 'create' certainty where there clearly isn't any.

What's a number? Where are numbers? What do they signify? How is there signification important? What have they done for us?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 11:44 am
@JPLosman0711,
What ????????????????????????????
if it was the case that 1+1=4 then it would be the case that 1+1=4...it happens at least for your degree of comprehension, (I am not to speak on Principia Mathematica on this regard) that you fail to suggest or present any good reason to believe otherwise...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 01:26 pm
@JPLosman0711,
What if? Wow, you're really lost.
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guigus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 01:28 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:
Why are you still clinging to your silly post? In my 'mind', it happened eons and eons ago.


For someone who remembers the early history of the universe as being part of his own history, a few days in the past should seem like right now, don't you think?
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guigus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 01:31 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

You really haven't the slightest clue of what you're talking about.

Who's to say 1+1=2? What if it had always been 1+1=4? What if whoever decided that it was 1+1=2, changed their mind and made it 1+1=50??? 'Math' is another one of our interesting 'subject/principles'. It's a terrific system of very agreeable, stern, 'logical', understandable, provable and safe conceptualizations that we have used to 'create' certainty where there clearly isn't any.

What's a number? Where are numbers? What do they signify? How is there signification important? What have they done for us?


http://able2know.org/topic/167752-1

Although numbers have never done anything for us, we have built our whole civilization using them -- as also many other, past civilizations. Without numbers you would't be here talking in this forum, child. Instead, you would be hunting some prey for dinner in the jungle -- or it would be hunting you.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 01:33 pm
@guigus,
Yeah...that might prove useful to him...hopefully !
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JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 02:24 pm
@guigus,
What came first? You or the numbers? I would say that 'you' have to be there to even determine whether 'numbers' are even there or not. So, if you came before the numbers, how could they have done anything for you?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 04:34 pm
@JPLosman0711,
It doesn't matter what came first. What matters is that man continues to develop new methods to view our environment, and when we are born into that environment. That math and science have developed exponentially during our generation shows that man is capable of inventing new things and theories to view our world.

If we were lucky enough to have been born in "this" generation (from the early 1900's to now), we have seen science at its best. We saw man reach the moon, satellites reaching far beyond our stratosphere, the computer, and airplanes that can take us half way around the world in one day.

The next generation will probably see technology advance to a stage way beyond what we have today.

As knowledge and communication increases, we can only hope that mankind will seek a more peaceful world.

JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 04:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What are you some sort of motivational speaker? Who are you motivating and why? Who is it that is in need of motivation?

Your post is an exact depiction of very common regurgitation regularly found in 'idle talk' of the 'they'.

If you want to continue to 'echo' all of that which you have heard in your life that's fine, just don't expect anyone to take you seriously.
 

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