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Proof of nonexistence of free will

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jun, 2019 05:10 pm
@brianjakub,
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By that definition people of the same sex cannot have sex.
Try telling that to the people who are having homosexual intercourse or are arrested for sexual assault. Sexual Assault Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
definitions.uslegal.com/s/sexual-assault
Sexual Assault Law and Legal Definition Sexual assault refers to an assault of a sexual nature on another person. It can include a wide range of unwanted sexual contact such as rape, forced vaginal, anal or oral penetration, forced sexual intercourse, inappropriate touching, forced kissing, child molestation ,exhibitionism, voyeurism, obscene ...
brianjakub
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jun, 2019 11:33 am
@cicerone imposter,
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Try telling that to people who are having sexual intercourse.
Determine what sexual intercourse does not exist look it up. If you find a common use of that phrase please provide it.

Homosexuality is an attraction or sexual orientation. That orientation could never lead to intercourse because intercourse must happen between people of the opposite sex. If you look up homosexual behavior you will not see the term intercourse use terms like mutual masturbation.

Could you explain how your comments on sexual assault has anything to do with their discussion on how judges of change the meaning of the words in the constitution as your previous quote stated. Could you explain that for me please?

I would also like to know why you referred me to that article when the quote I pulled out of that article disagrees with your premise that the supreme court justices did not change the meaning of the constitution when, your quote says they did by their changing the meaning of words I interpreting them differently then the people that wrote them.

Could you explain why you chose that quote and how it supports your argument?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jun, 2019 11:45 am
@brianjakub,
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short for sexual intercourse.
synonyms: sexual intercourse, sex, lovemaking, making love, sex act, act of love, sexual relations, intimate relations, intimacy, coupling, mating, going to bed with someone, sleeping with someone; More

brianjakub
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jun, 2019 05:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I meant to say homosexual intercourse does not exist. That is like saying male pregnancy. It is physically impossible.

You are giving examples of loose definitions used in different contexts in casual conversation. I was talking about legal terms as they refer to the American Constitution, and how those were defined and interpreted by the founders as they wrote the constitution. Do you think loose definitions taken out of context from casual conversations should be used in determining the original meaning of the constitution?

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jun, 2019 05:36 pm
@brianjakub,
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I meant to say homosexual intercourse does not exist.
. Your narrow views about sexuality is arcane and ignorant. You're not worth the time of day to discuss any subject, because your ignorance is too overwhelming.
chai2
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jun, 2019 06:42 pm
@brianjakub,
So if homosexual intercourse does not exist, then what is the big deal that many religions have against them?
brianjakub
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jun, 2019 05:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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your narrow views about sexuality or arcane an ignorant


We were talking about the supreme court and legal matters. Sexuality has nothing to do with that. we were talking about changing the meaning of the Constitution by changing the meaning of words in a legal environment not casual conversation. If all the constitution is to you is casual conversation then I understand why you think you could change its meaning at the whim of what’s currently in vogue .

If you will look at our past exchanges you didn’t discuss anything. You did not answer any of my questions. And when I asked you to explain why you put certain posts up as responses, you could not explain yourself. Well your inability to back up your own posts makes it hard to comment on your ignorance so I wont.
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brianjakub
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jun, 2019 05:38 pm
@chai2,
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So if homosexual intercourse does not exist, then what is the big deal that many religions have against them?
There’s a lot of religions that teach it’s wrong that’s a pretty broad question . But historically most religions thought marriage was a religious convenient or sacramental relationship between two people of the opposite sex and God in which they agreed to raise children according to God’s plan. The act of procreation was the physical sign that sealed the covenant. Procreation is not possible in a homosexual act, therefore it’s not possible for a homosexual act to build a seal that covenant. That does not mean homosexuals can’t form covenants and raise families, it just means it doesn’t fit the definition of the word marriage as it was defined and understood for thousands of years.

As for the Christian world they take marriage as a mirror image of the relationship between Jesus and the church where Jesus is the groom and the church is the bride and there is a masculine feminine relationship there.
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wolflarsen88
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 12:27 am
Logically speaking, you can't prove a negative anyways. So a proof of the non-existence of something is illogical. Your challenge instead is to prove that all outcomes are the product of natural forces.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 02:20 am
@wolflarsen88,
That assumes that free will isn't natural.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 11:41 am
@Olivier5,
We are all subjective beings based on our culture, race, parents, teachers, siblings, friends, religion, and education. That's the reality of living on this planet as humans. Most of what we believe to be factual and true are based on our own level of faith.
Quote:
faith
/fāTH/
noun
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something:
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms:
trust, belief, confidence, conviction, credence, ... more
antonyms:
mistrust
Do we have free will? To the extent that society allows us.
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