Proof of nonexistence of free will

@Fil Albuquerque,

I value not the effort but the competence, not the symbolic but that which works, not the morally "good" but the efficient...
My model seeks to grasp the perfection in the Universe and don´t has the pretension to correct it with moral human pantomime...
Every time I look at the sky by night...galaxy´s... and stars... and on how all comes together I allays come to the same conclusion...
There´s nothing to be changed, nothing really changing, all is exactly as it should be...Perfect and Complete !

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@Fil Albuquerque,

where it reads:

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There´s nothing to be changed, nothing really changing, all is exactly as it should be...Perfect and Complete !

it should read:

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There´s nothing to be changed, among change nothing really changing, all is exactly as it should be...Perfect and Complete !

Otherwise its hard to grasp the meaning in it...

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@Fil Albuquerque,

You still have no idea that you have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not talking or care about what you call 'intelligence'. That's just a banner you hide behind.

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@Dasein,

Your model is a castle build on thin air, full of contradictions and paradoxes...what one would rationally call a disaster...a classic case where relativism falls upon itself...the relativity of relativism one might joke... Mr. Green

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@Dasein,

Dasein wrote:

Felipe;

Have you ever taken a nanosecond to notice that all that crap in your head, (which you dump here in this forum), all that crap hasn't resolved anything for you or for anybody else.

Doesn't that make you curious?

For the first time I agree with you, man. This is the kind of thing that really deserves to be called "crap." The great Einstein, which was a far better physicist than he was a philosopher, told himself all his life the world could be reduced to some kind of geometry, despite the tiny detail represented by quantum physics (that he helped creating). But then J. S. Bell, my hero, came along and proved he was wrong: there is no way of reducing the static to the dynamic, according to... nature. Not only that, but in 2010 we saw the discovery of the fundamental link between the Heisenberg uncertainty principle and entanglement (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101118141541.htm), which is one of the most exciting moments in the history of knowledge -- for those who live in these days, of course, and not in some atemporal geometric setup. So fortunately we live in a time in which one must no longer give such crap the serious consideration it once deserved even from very clever people.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

What is it there to be resolved, eh?

For you, nothing, so what are you doing here?

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

Have you ever seriously considered that you might be wrong in your model ?

Curious... I was about to ask you the same question.

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

...but more, you seam to suggest that my model is morally inferior to yours and yet you don´t even present an argument, an hint for it...

Your model is logically inferior as well.

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

Crap?

Yes, crap.

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

Honestly you simply don't have the necessary IQ to follow what I'm at...

Oho! For someone atemporal living in a geometrical universe under a diet of zeros and ones you are a bit unstable, don't you think?

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

You know what instantly pops into my mind about those advocates of permanent flux, the eternal change like you ? Anarchists who don't have a clue on what change means, sworn enemy´s of reason deeply entangled in the social French model which is the ruin of our University´s and young incompetent generations with 2 or 3 Masters on yoghurt thesis ...you people live always in the middle of paradoxes and duality's buried in moral claims...

Where does all that hate come from? Zeros or ones?

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

You know what instantly pops into my mind about those advocates of permanent flux, the eternal change like you ?

Dasein follows Heidegger, which is not that kind of guy: Heidegger is more of a Parmenides than of a Heraclitus. But you don't know such things, do you?

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

Anarchists who don't have a clue on what change means, sworn enemy´s of reason deeply entangled in the social French model which is the ruin of our University´s and young incompetent generations with 2 or 3 Masters on yoghurt thesis ...

Heidegger didn't leave Germany during the 3rd Heich and began his classes during that period with "Heil Hitler"... Would you call that an anarchist? It seems much more like one of your guys...

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

you people live always in the middle of paradoxes and duality's buried in moral claims...

You are so obsessed with the left that you are seeing them all over the place, including people that are not of that political inclination at all: you are getting paranoid...

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we think no better than beetles

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@north,

north, When did you get insight into the thinking of beetles?

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@north,

north wrote:

we think no better than beetles

And beetles think no better than bacteria, and so on. What a useful commentary! Congratulations, Ringo. Or would it be Paul? John? Is that you?!?

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@guigus,

guigus wrote:

north wrote:

we think no better than beetles

And beetles think no better than bacteria, and so on. What a useful commentary! Congratulations, Ringo. Or would it be Paul? John? Is that you?!?

the insect , beetle

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@north,

north wrote:

guigus wrote:

north wrote:

we think no better than beetles

And beetles think no better than bacteria, and so on. What a useful commentary! Congratulations, Ringo. Or would it be Paul? John? Is that you?!?

the insect , beetle

Oh, sorry! I would have never figured that out without your invaluable help. You are so clever!

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

north, When did you get insight into the thinking of beetles?

After reincarnation.

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@guigus,

guigus wrote:

north wrote:

guigus wrote:

north wrote:

we think no better than beetles

And beetles think no better than bacteria, and so on. What a useful commentary! Congratulations, Ringo. Or would it be Paul? John? Is that you?!?

the insect , beetle

Oh, sorry! I would have never figured that out without your invaluable help. You are so clever!

it is my fault though , I should have been clearer

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

north, When did you get insight into the thinking of beetles?

simple example of the non-existence of free-will

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@guigus,

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Dasein follows Heidegger, which is not that kind of guy: Heidegger is more of a Parmenides than of a Heraclitus. But you don't know such things, do you?

If I remember it correctly I was one of the best students of Philosophy in my high school when I studied those guys...the rest of your bullshit I won´t even bother to address, your just so naive...

Have a nice day Guigus, really ! Wink

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@north,

north wrote:

guigus wrote:

north wrote:

guigus wrote:

north wrote:

we think no better than beetles

And beetles think no better than bacteria, and so on. What a useful commentary! Congratulations, Ringo. Or would it be Paul? John? Is that you?!?

the insect , beetle

Oh, sorry! I would have never figured that out without your invaluable help. You are so clever!

it is my fault though , I should have been clearer

Are you being serious? I'm not, Ringo. Didn't you get it yet?

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@north,

north wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

north, When did you get insight into the thinking of beetles?

simple example of the non-existence of free-will

Jonh Lennon had free will, which unfortunately died with him...

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

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Dasein follows Heidegger, which is not that kind of guy: Heidegger is more of a Parmenides than of a Heraclitus. But you don't know such things, do you?

If I remember it correctly I was one of the best students of Philosophy in my high school when I studied those guys...the rest of your bullshit I won´t even bother to address, your just so naive...

Have a nice day Guigus, really !

Even so, you should better address the bullshit from Dasein, since you didn't get him at all. Regarding you philosophy student days, sorry, but I wasn't there: I'll try my best the next time not to miss these important moments of your life.

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@guigus,

You see, then again you miss the point...the point was not my student days or how well I did at the time...I could n´t care less...the point was your comment without any basis about what I knew on them Guigus...again I could n´t care less if you believe it or not, you are a stranger to me...besides doing well on high school does n´t present much of challenge to brag about...
I could go on just to show you how wrong your assumptions are...I am not right winged, in fact last time I vote I did so in the Socialist party here in Portugal (they are centrer moderates and not truly socialist) but how does that has anything to do with order or anarchy ? Your classic connotations just immediately show your lack of ability to reason independently and out of the usual cliché...seriously, you would do well if you kept your mouth shut most of the time.

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