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Amanda Knox

 
 
oralloy
 
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Wed 23 Mar, 2011 04:30 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
No, I would never want to see an innocent person go to jail.


I believe you. But there are people on this thread who I would not believe if they tried to make that claim.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 23 Mar, 2011 10:24 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
wandeljw wrote:
Quote:
Amanda Knox Wikipedia Info Scrutinized for Bias by Wiki Founder Jimmy Wales
(By Curtis Cartier, Seattle Weekly, March 23 2011)

There is no Wikipedia page for Amanda Knox. There is a page for the "Murder of Meredith Kercher," but Knox supporters claim it's chock-full of misinformation and bias. And after a well-placed letter caught the eye of Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales, the article-editing minions and Wales himself are taking a fine-tooth comb to the entry.

Steve Shay at West Seattle Herald reports today that Wales has opened up discussion on the accuracy of the Kercher murder page after he received a letter from the folks at the pro-Knox blog www.injusticeinperugia.org.

The letter argues that several facts are misrepresented on the Wiki page and that it draws too heavily on British tabloids that are, well, British tabloids. The letter's authors also say that physical evidence is ignored and facts are wrong.


There is interesting news on the "planted DNA on the knife and bra clasp" front as well. Nothing in English yet. But it should be worth looking for a new entry from Frank in coming hours over on Perugia Shock.


Since there is no report in English so far, I'll try to relay what I know.

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First, the contaminated bra clasp that was claimed to have Raffaele's DNA (but quite obviously didn't):

The bra clasp was stored right next to the spot where the Italian police erased everyone's hard drives.

When it was removed for testing, it was found that the conditions of storage were such that the entire bra clasp had rusted into powder, and no second test was possible.

----

Second, the knife that was said to be the murder weapon and said to have DNA from both Amanda and Meredith (despite the fact that the knife was quite clearly not shaped like the murder weapon and quite clearly had no DNA from Meredith):

No DNA whatsoever was found on the knife. Unsure if that means there was no DNA from Amanda either, or whether they only looked on the blade since Amanda's DNA on the handle was not a relevant issue.

If it turns out that there is now no DNA from Amanda on the handle, that makes it probable that all the results of the first DNA tests were intentionally forged.

If it was just a matter of only looking at the blade and finding no DNA, that is mere confirmation of what we already know -- never was Meredith's DNA on it to begin with.
oralloy
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 08:18 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
There is interesting news on the "planted DNA on the knife and bra clasp" front as well. Nothing in English yet. But it should be worth looking for a new entry from Frank in coming hours over on Perugia Shock.


http://blog.seattlepi.com/dempsey/2011/03/24/amanda-knox-no-incriminating-dna-on-murder-weapon
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JTT
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 10:00 am
@oralloy,
You've had more than enough time to read that article, Oralloy. What do you think? A system that is so patently unfair that it's a mockery to suggest that the US operates by the rule of law.

Let's look at another comparison, though this doesn't give you the freedom to ignore the other one.

All those bought and paid for prisoners from Afghanistan, not a one has been convicted, unless you count the terrifying man who was convicted of being Osama's chauffeur. Jesus, what a lame banana republic the US is, is it not?

Watch the BBC documentary,

The Power of Nightmares Part 3: The Shadows in the Cave - by Adam Curtis

at

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2081592330319789254#


djjd62
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 10:02 am
@JTT,
yeah, but none of them were adorable american college girls, who everyone knows can do no wrong Rolling Eyes
JTT
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 10:15 am
@djjd62,
Amanda could be innocent. I don't really have the foggiest notion, djjd. Oralloy obviously knows more about the situation but that doesn't mean he knows whether or not she's is innocent.

But again, the hypocrisy, not only out of Oralloy, but out of major portions of the US is so difficult to comprehend. And what does a moral person do in these situations, it's so easy; demand that those who have committed crimes/war crimes be held to account.

These other gambits, including the deafening silence from way way too many, are simply people providing excuses for evil, something these folks would never consider doing for other forms of evil. Witness the threads on holding child molesters, mothers who do in their kids, ... to account. The demands for justice in those cases are loud and strident.

Have you had a chance to view the BBC documentary?

djjd62
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 10:30 am
@JTT,
i actually have all three parts on dvds that came with issues of Wholphin

been a few years since i watched them, will have to pop them in again for a review

contrex
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 01:38 pm
@djjd62,
I think they ought to keep Knox in jail, if for no other reason than that Oralloy is such a dork.
JTT
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 02:33 pm
@contrex,
That had to have been major, humongous tongue in cheek.
oralloy
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 04:41 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
yeah, but none of them were adorable american college girls, who everyone knows can do no wrong Rolling Eyes


Explain why there is no evidence of her guilt, and strong evidence that Guede did it alone.
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oralloy
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 04:41 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Amanda could be innocent. I don't really have the foggiest notion, djjd. Oralloy obviously knows more about the situation but that doesn't mean he knows whether or not she's is innocent.


I actually do know she is innocent. And I know she has been intentionally framed by corrupt judges who also know she is innocent.
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oralloy
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 04:41 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
You've had more than enough time to read that article, Oralloy. What do you think?


I will pound an iron spike through my own skull before I take this thread off topic.

And I have dialup. No video downloads for me in any case.
oralloy
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 04:43 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
That had to have been major, humongous tongue in cheek.


No, contrex is an evil person who actually supports sending innocent people to prison.
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contrex
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 04:44 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

That had to have been major, humongous tongue in cheek.


No, I'm absolutely, utterly, completely serious. I have forwarded the details of his posts here to the legal authorities in Perugia, and they have indicated that the doctrine of testimonio di testa di minchia applies. This means that for every post of Oralloy's, Knox stands to serve an extra year in jail. Also she gets a new cell mate called "Signorina Bubba" who has lots of toys, some quite large...

oralloy
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2011 04:51 pm
@contrex,
contrex wrote:
This means that for every post of Oralloy's, Knox stands to serve an extra year in jail. Also she gets a new cell mate called "Signora Bubba" who has lots of toys, some quite large...


You actually thought you made me worry didn't you? Laughing

Actually, the thugs probably could prosecute me for defamation. After all, they are prosecuting Amanda's parents for merely telling the truth about their daughter's innocence.

They know though that they have no chance of extraditing me. And if they even tried, I'd use the circus of their extradition attempt to draw lots of public attention to their evilness.
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contrex
 
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Fri 25 Mar, 2011 12:53 am
You Americans really don't "do" irony, do you? Or is it just the nutty ones that have a problem with it? Look up "testa di minchia".



oralloy
 
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Sat 26 Mar, 2011 02:28 pm
@contrex,
contrex wrote:
You Americans really don't "do" irony, do you? Or is it just the nutty ones that have a problem with it? Look up "testa di minchia".


"Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

Yes it Is an insult but sometimes we do not say to really offend somebody or anything similar to that....mhhh yeah Depends on the people who use it
Minchia means Dick
We use it for example when you get hurt and you be like "Oh Minchia that Hurts"
Or we use it as "testa di minchia" which means "Dick head"
It is mostly used by friends to one another!"


I hope you aren't suggesting I'd ever be a friend to a monster who supports sending innocent people to prison. Maybe one day when you're finally in Hell you can be buddies with Hitler.
contrex
 
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Sat 26 Mar, 2011 02:53 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Maybe one day when you're finally in Hell you can be buddies with Hitler.


You'll be sucking his dick.
oralloy
 
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Sat 26 Mar, 2011 08:10 pm
@contrex,
contrex wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Maybe one day when you're finally in Hell you can be buddies with Hitler.


You'll be sucking his dick.


I don't want to speculate which direction I'll go in the end, but I do know that I'll never have to explain to God why I supported sending innocent people to prison.

No way I'll end up in the same pit as you two monsters.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 26 Mar, 2011 08:11 pm
For what it's worth, the police in Perugia are not only falsely accusing Frank of Perugia-Shock of beating up five police officers (at once), now they are trying to suggest he was involved in killing Meredith Kercher:

Note his latest entry:

Quote:
THE LAST LAUGHTER

This is going to make you laugh. Guess who the prosecution, now, thinks to be involved with the crime? Me. It’s no surprise. It’s perfectly consistent with everything else.
The great psychologists who thought that a girl first watches Amelie and then goes and kills her housemate must of course think that the one who writes about a crime is the criminal...
Indeed they got something in their hands; they found out that criminals know me. Will they manage to understand why I talk to criminals? No, there’s no hope.
Five cops, then, reported to have been beaten by me and they proved it with a medical certificate... Will the great judges be fooled again by a couple of cops and a piece of paper? Of course. It’s their specialty!

This is the local mind. Have you all now figured out why this judicial disaster happened?


http://perugia-shock.blogspot.com/2011/03/cabaret-mignini-at-knox-sollecito-trial.html
 

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