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What is one mistake your parents made that you struggle to forgive?

 
 
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 05:06 pm
@dyslexia,
He's just an idiot. His replies in this thread show it all so clearly.
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BorisKitten
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 05:09 pm
@dyslexia,
Me too, Dys!

My mother always expected grandchildren... what with 5 children this was not an unreasonable expectation.

Yet she never had even one grandchild: I think because all 5 of her own children were so very unhappy, at least during their child-bearing years.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 05:13 pm
My two Blythe brothers did not have children, but I think they would have, under other circumstances. Of my half siblings, all but two had children. (There were eight to reach adulthood).
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 05:28 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

interestingly enough, the only pressure I ever felt to have children came from my father who expressed a strong desire to have a granddaughter. I'm not suggesting some kind of sexual issue with my father, only that he very often said he wanted a child/grandchild who would admire/dote on him. He often commented to my mother that she bore him 4 sons and all he wanted was one daughter.
Genetically, that was HIS fault.
Did anyone explain that to him ?
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 05:34 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Not necessarily.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  -3  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 05:39 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

Quote:
I imagine that people make erroneous decisions at all ages.
Yes, there are even those adults that suggest that 7 yr olds should carry firearms.
Thay, among others, have been the victims of horrible violence -- sometimes fatal violence.
My enduring desire is that victims of immoral violence shoud prevail and that the predator
(human or animal) be defeated. In order for that to happen, the victim (including a 7 year old)
needs competent tools to control the emergency.

If the victim of immoral violence is 7 years old,
I desire that HE WIN anyway and defeat the bad guy.

In other words, Dys, I cannot find it in my heart to say to a 7 year old boy or girl:
" because of your age, I will CONCLUSIVELY PRESUME that u are too stupid to be allowed to defend your life.
I am willing to sacrifice your life upon the altar of my prejudice against the minds of 7 year old kids."

Instead, I 'd apply the OLD approach -- the NON-politically correct approach -- of the 1800s
and early 1900s of TEACHING children self defense at the earliest possible age, if thay are willing to learn it.

The other approach, the current approach, your approved approach
is just to read about the crime in the next day 's paper over your morning coffee;
u shake your head saying: "what 's the world coming to?"
and have another sip. Maybe u suggest more laws, because criminals r so good at obaying laws. Right, Dys ?

Annie Oakley and James Butler (Wild Bill) Hickok had similar childhoods
on the frontier of the 1800s. When Annie was 8, her mother
put a rifle in her hands and told her not to come back without lunch.

Hickok had the same circumstance at age 9.
Inasmuch as this happened every day, thay became proficient
and later: trick shots. Their ages did not prevent them from this.

When I was 8, I was surrounded by kids with guns for 5 years,
with no complaints and with no ill effects.

Your attitude toward 7 year old kids is only naked prejudice
resulting in your willingness to sacrifice their lives to your ignorance.



David
dyslexia
 
  3  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 05:45 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
well david, I'm a tea drinker.
spendius
 
  1  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 05:47 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
When are you going to call for cars to be banned Dave?
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 05:55 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
When I was 8, I was surrounded by kids with guns for 5 years,
with no complaints and with no ill effects.

Your attitude toward 7 year old kids is only naked prejudice
resulting in your willingness to sacrifice their lives to your ignorance.


you seem to be running into my theme, which is that when it comes to kids the collective (to include parents) tends to run either hot or cold....we either smother them or abandon them. Neither is good for kids.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 06:12 pm
@BorisKitten,
BorisKitten wrote:

Quote:
BorisKitten wrote:
I was 5 years old.

OmSigDavid: "So, thay were good when u were 6 years old ?"

Quote:

BK: My impression here, David, is that you just don't "Get It."

OmSigDavid: "Admittedly, I don't understand everything."

Quote:
NOBODY understands "everything," regardless of what they claim.
To that, we can stipulate.



Quote:
I see your association w/Mensa, and I hafta tell you, I qualify as
a member but never chose to join. I guess I felt like Woody Allen,
never wanting to be a member of a club that would include ME.
That was Groucho Marx, not Woody Allen; good thing that was not on the test.
(Woody may have quoted him.)
U shoud join us; try the different SIGs; I lead the fine dining SIG in NY,
the Opulent Mensan Special Interest Group. U can start your own SIG, if u wanna; maybe a kitten SIG.
We have many regional gatherings around America every year
in fun places like NY, Chicago (HalloweeM), Las Vegas, New Orleans, Orlando.
In 2 years, we are having the Annual Gathering (nationwide) in Reno.
The gatherings are tons of fun and educational; lots of new friends n old ones.
I like the speaker programs.
Mensans can be creative qua having fun; give it a shot.
The dues r not much.





Quote:
This is a very touchy topic/thread, IMHO.
It's best not to go replying to posts without background.
Folks are likely to get offended. Not enough info to make a judgment.
The whole website is built around freedom of discussion.
I did not have a background of a hard life, but I have some observations.

If someone gets offended, maybe we can work it out. Discussion is good for that.
It can be cathartic.
Sometimes, in a spirit of informality, I get a little jaunty.
In a worst case scenario: its not as if someone is going to get a broken bone.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 07:33 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
When I was 8, I was surrounded by kids with guns for 5 years,
with no complaints and with no ill effects.

Your attitude toward 7 year old kids is only naked prejudice
resulting in your willingness to sacrifice their lives to your ignorance.


you seem to be running into my theme, which is that when it comes to kids
the collective (to include parents) tends to run either hot or cold....we either
smother them or abandon them. Neither is good for kids.
As a general rule, I advocate curtailing and strangling
the domestic power of government over citizens of all ages, in the name of personal freedom.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 07:38 pm
@BorisKitten,
BorisKitten wrote:

Me too, Dys!

My mother always expected grandchildren... what with 5 children
this was not an unreasonable expectation.

Yet she never had even one grandchild: I think because all 5
of her own children were so very unhappy, at least during their child-bearing years.
Without joking, I can assure u that I have been happy,
and very, very pleased to have no children
(tho I was pleased to have girlfriend 's children around).





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 07:49 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

well david, I'm a tea drinker.
In South Bend, Ind., Tony D. Murray broke into a home
occupied by Sue Gay, an 80-year-old grandmother and
her 11-year-old grandchild.

The intruder held a jagged box cutter to the grandmother's neck,
at which time the 11-year-old ran upstairs where he retrieved a .45 revolver.
The 11-year-old returned, pointed the gun at the intruder, and shot and killed him.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 07:50 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

When are you going to call for cars to be banned Dave?
I don 't get your point, Spendius.
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ossobuco
 
  0  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 08:01 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
urgggh, memories of Sierra Leone..
ossobuco
 
  0  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 08:17 pm
@ossobuco,
Well, Sierra Leone at one time in my own memory had child warriors. Some people in my extended family were caught up in that. As did Eritrea, another story.

I do think the thread is galloping off track, and am sorry if I added to the discursion.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 08:51 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

Well, Sierra Leone at one time in my own memory had child warriors.
Some people in my extended family were caught up in that.
As did Eritrea, another story.

I do think the thread is galloping off track, and am sorry if I added to the discursion.
Yes; there were also those 2 little 9 year old twin boys
in Burma whose parents were murdered by pillaging soldiers
from Thailand. I remember pictures of them smoking cigars.
The boys got some AK 47s and some machineguns
and organized a militia that profitably counter-raided the Thai soldiers
until eventually the children were killed in battle at 12 years of age.
At the beginning, thay were clever tacticians; good with ambushes,
who developed good reputations for military success.

Remember them ?





David
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CalamityJane
 
  6  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 09:54 pm
God dammit David, give it a rest! You kill just about every thread there is
with your excessive gun talk.
msolga
 
  1  
Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 10:14 pm
@CalamityJane,
But, Jane, the intention is to ruin the thread. And to be as irritating as possible in the process. It's attention of some sort, I suppose?
Best to just ignore the long silly posts, one after the another. The thread reads a lot better that way, trust me! Smile
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 27 Sep, 2009 10:20 pm
@msolga,
OMG, another person who not only thinks that they have the right to judge words by the presumed motive behind them, but who is sure that they are right about their guess of motive. Get over yourself, you neither have that right, nor are you that good.
 

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