Has everyone moved over to Facebook?

Sorry to hear you don't have PM privileges, hawkeye. Messaging works just fine for me. Um... disrespecting the community? Rob? That's pretty laughable coming from you.

Quote:
"
She was a sufficiently good detective to use her computer to find
the other fellow on Facebook, which she then vindictively published on A2K,
exhibiting his countenance and his full name from Facebook,
unexpectedly and against his will.
"

PM works for me

Call me eccentric; call me ideosyncratic,
but when I go onto someone else's property,
I usually make it a point to observe a modicum of decency
and courtesy when addressing my host, Hawkeye.

I guess u don 't approve of politeness.





David

Telling truth to power is necessary, whether it is taken as politeness or rudeness speaks to the reception that the truth receives, not to the character of the speaker.

Besides, my language is almost always highly civil, unlike some around here.

I don't know much about computers, Ed.
Its like I can drive a car, but I 'm no expert on them.

I imagine that our real world names are on our computers.
I do not know how to keep them off.
I have never knowingly put a picture of myself on my computer.

Presumably, that fellow had a trail leading from his computer to Facebook.

I have no idea how such a thing can be kept confidential.





David

I think I already said this to you on another thread, hawkeye, but you really are a pain in the ass, y'know.

If your language were CIVIL,
then u 'd not have used reference to excrement in your statement.
That has nothing to do with telling the truth.

As a mere WITNESS to that,
I was shocked and offended and grossed out,
tho it had nothing to do with me.

In my opinion,
that is nothing but unprovoked rudeness, for twisted ego reasons.
I am completely certain that u coud not possibly care less about my opinions.





David

You told an outright lie about me hawkeye, why not back it up?

I started the process of this transition years before you ever even joined the forum. I started over a two dozen threads in private and in public about the changes. I had beta testers using the software before it launched.

You, and all the other critics, never said a word about the plans when I repeatedly solicited feedback, yet you have the temerity to say that I never did so and that I "flat out said that you did not give a **** about the community".

This isn't the first time you've flat out lied about me, hawkeye and then cowardly refused to back up your words. A2k has been a big part of my life for many years, there are a lot of things I wish I could have done better (e.g. launch with PMs and search) but the bottom line is that I had little choice other than to do things this way.

The old software was coming apart at its seams. The search function was breaking down (don't take my word for it, nimh pointed out publicly that it stopped indexing new posts), the new topics page wouldn't load anymore, and there were many times where the site would become inaccessible and I'd have to keep spending more and more on RAM to try to keep it online.

It was not tenable, and we were racing the clock to build the replacement. I wanted a smoother launch but the bottom line is that I didn't have the money for it. I spent about $30,000 out-of-pocket to get us to a launchable state and could not spend more, the rest of the improvements had to come incrementally.

You didn't say a word on the dozens of threads where I spoke of the changes, and to say that I never consulted with the community just because you are ignorant of the many times I reached out is bullshit. To say that I flat out stated that I don't care about the community is an intentional lie.

Back it up hawkeye. I spent $30,000 of my own money to fix the software for the community. I've spend much much more throughout its lifetime to get it where it is today. This is my favorite thing I've done in my life, and you are simply full of it to state that I am disrespecting the community just because we don't see eye-to-eye about software design. I certainly do care about a2k, and you have no basis upon which to make that accusation.

Wow, are you trapped in some kind of time warp?? The profanity that I use is mild, and all profanity is now a routine part of speech through almost all layers of the collective. It is to be considered course, but can not be considered to be uncivil.

Your outrage tags you as out of touch, it does not reflect upon me.

I'd like to hear you respond to Robert, Hack...

seriously.

How long has it been since the change occurred? I can't even remember. A year? I knew when I saw this question, all this anti-change stuff would come up yet again. Seriously, if you don't like A2K since the change, then why are you still here?

Marty, who do you think is missing? Why did you come back now?
Facebook is vastly different than A2K to me.
I'm anonymous here. I'm not on Facebook. Here I get to read and think about things. Over there, I reading what someone had for breakfast. For me, Facebook is about staying in touch with people. A2K is for staying in touch with the world, what people over a broad area are thinking and talking about.

Regardless of whether I am out of touch,
a user of this website shoud be able to follow along
reading your typing without having our attention directed into excrement, damn u !





David

and u have the gall to claim to be "civil"

One can like a2k enough to decide not to leave as others have, but be sad that the community is dying.



and this a2k does well, maybe even better than before. A2k still has value, but the new a2k will appeal to a different type of person than the old. The lack of new blood is a huge cause for concern however. A2k will not survive without it.

I don't care at all about the "profanity", I care that you are deliberately lying about me. That is not civil. Back it up.

quit trying to sound like a prophet, it's laughable at best.

answer Robert, please.

Any evidence for this claim? Didn't think so.



This is hillarious, you spent the first months after the change explicitly saying that this is where it would suffer. Telling us that this was run like the "gestapo" and that different view points were being silenced.

Make up your mind, which is it?



Pop quiz. What is the difference in the rate at which the new software attracts members in comparison to the old software? For example, how many regulars were attracted in the year prior to the change versus new regulars since?

You have no idea, and you are talking out of a position of complete ignorance.

No, you didn't. No one who's been around A2K long enough to know who you are would believe Shorteyes’ nonsense. The idea that the demented misogynist speaks for the community, any community, is laughable. Hell, Shorteyes’ continued presence is likely more damaging than FaceBook, MySpace, and Twitter combined.

Who, besides you, thinks this community is dying?
I'm still seeing plenty of community.