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What is your attitude towards your gender?

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chai2
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 02:19 pm
@spendius,
fuckin'-A tweety

you can't handle the truth.
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The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 02:52 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
I'm content to let others take that risk of pleasing you chai.

Spendius, that's a REALLY horrible thing to say.
You're content for Chai to get raped?
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 03:18 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
I didn't mean that at all.

I meant I am content to accept what she might say she doesn't want and leave it at that. I'll leave the ones who secretly like to be forced, and I have heard of that, to the blokes who fancy taking the chance.

I'm surprised at you misreading my post to that extent.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:01 pm
@spendius,
Trust me, honey, they wouldn't. That would be stipulated with a dotted line.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:05 pm
@ossobuco,
Just read Spendius. Shitcity, we have an engagement of Hawkeye and Spendius.

Oh, wait, people won't like it if I swear.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:10 pm
@spendius,
Oh good. Glad we cleared that up.
BorisKitten
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:16 pm
@ossobuco,
Laughing, Osso! Not that they won't Like your swearing ('cause I do), they're just surprised!

Frankly, I like it.

OMG, Osso said "****!" Laughing
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:17 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
Did we clear that up? I don't know, as I don't know spendius. I don't mean to impugn you unnecessarily, Sp, and may be working up to an apology. Hard to separate your gynecophobia from various sentences.

ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:23 pm
@BorisKitten,
Alas, BorisK, you're behind on this, I swear moderately often, more than polite. (It's from my swearing deprived background, you know, later aroused by real life..) I have friends and relatives who never ever swear, many of them english majors. But I was primed in a laboratory with a boss who swore, and it was comforting, mostly, and, of course, he didn't over use it.) Overuse, tacky.
BorisKitten
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:24 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
Hard to separate your gynecophobia from various sentences.

No ****, Osso!

OMG, I said "****!"
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:32 pm
@ossobuco,
I'll be quiet here and just talk. Some women like to be forced in a kind of controlled fantasy, which of course I don't take as rape, but titillation.
Real no holds barred rape in or out of marriage is abuse.
Some women have been raped so much that is all they know of attention. Get these women help, don't rape them again.

spendius
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:42 pm
@BorisKitten,
Don't get too fascinated BK. It's not all that cute. It sticks to blankets, skids across underwear gussets, is a nuisance when it gets into the blades of fans and Henry Miller said that if it had value the poor wouldn't have arseholes.

Unmentionable really taking everything into account.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:48 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
I'll be quiet here and just talk. Some women like to be forced in a kind of controlled fantasy, which of course I don't take as rape, but titillation.


Do you mean with those tough guys who rip your tights and talk about themselves a lot. That's kinky osso.

Eager surrender to an admired cash machine is the Darwinian scientific approach.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:49 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

what women want is very often different from what they say that they want. How this is dealt with in the collective should take into consideration the nature of the relationship. Long term/short term should factor, so should married/not married.

given that in my opinion a man does not have the right to go against what a woman says that she wants unless he knows her very well, I would say that in your situation you had no choice but to take this woman at her word about what she wanted, as frustrating and as unnatural as this is. The woman was clearly frustrated with the need to supply overt consent, it did impede the natural flow of the evening.


Baloney.

Unless he knows her very well? How about listening to fellow humans? What would that harm you, big boy?
BorisKitten
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:55 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
... what women want is very often different from what they say that they want.

Oh, pleez!

Honestly, I think females are MUCH better at communicating their desires than males. My own prejudices speaking here? Maybe, but I don't think so.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:56 pm
@ossobuco,
Well, we didn't really 'clear it up', as in clear the whole thing up.
I was just glad spendius didn't mean he was cool with people raping chai, so was going to leave it at that because i didn't understand the rest of the stuff he said.


'You can't rape the willing, my friend'.
I forget who said that.
But basically, 'raping' when it is the woman's desire to be 'raped' is a bit of an oxymoron.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:59 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
what women want is very often different from what they say that they want. How this is dealt with in the collective should take into consideration the nature of the relationship.


Who cares about figuring out what women want if it is different from what they say they want. In the collective one simply moves along the bar to find a woman who wants what she says she wants.

One might have to hire a trick-cyclist to advise one otherwise and they charge nearly as much as bankers do for adding up columns of numbers and running off with the fractions.



The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 05:00 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
what women want is very often different from what they say that they want. How this is dealt with in the collective should take into consideration the nature of the relationship. Long term/short term should factor, so should married/not married.

given that in my opinion a man does not have the right to go against what a woman says that she wants unless he knows her very well, I would say that in your situation you had no choice but to take this woman at her word about what she wanted, as frustrating and as unnatural as this is. The woman was clearly frustrated with the need to supply overt consent, it did impede the natural flow of the evening.


Is it really?
I'm always pretty honest about what I want. Whats the point of saying you don't want something when you do?

I've never had an experience like that.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 05:01 pm
@spendius,
Eh? Do I need to educate you about fantasy sex? I admit that's not much my interest, but I don't think it's abuse, and I know a bit about the borders. Check Oshima. Don't you even begin to lecture me, Spendius.

The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 05:01 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
Who cares about figuring out what women want if it is different from what they say they want. In the collective one simply moves along the bar to find a woman who wants what she says she wants.


Exactly, Hawkeye, you've been after the wrong kind of women.
 

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