Guns: how much longer will it take ....

The trial testimony clearly shows zim was trhe aggressor, not trayvon.

Chris Cooper was a Harvard educated nerdy bird watcher, hardly a thug, and all he ever did was try to get the dog leashed as the law said. No threats from him.

Amy was the thug.

nonsense, as usual..

None of ts dna on zim's gun, so z lied abouy t trying totake ot away frpm him. none of z'ds dna on t's hoody, inconsistent with z' claim t beat him. z's wounds insignificant, incpnsistent with claim t beat his head multiple times on sidewalk.

facts shpw z chased t. accpsted him. t said to z, get off me. z started it all and killed an innokcent kid.

chris cooper only tried to get sm's dog on the required lkeash. anything other than that, as oralloy keeps claiming is purely his own fevered imagination.

she was the thug in the picture.

Again all oralloy's claimsfalsely cast black people as commiting crimes against whites when the wrongdoing went the other way, and that is racist.

I repeat, you manufacture imaginary scenarios unsupported by the evidence and usually illogical.

I went back and read the trayvon-zim testimony, zim's insignificant wounds do NOT support his picture of head bashing. T's DNA was NOT on the gun he claimed T tried to take from him.

You're flat wrong.

What threats do you allege chris cooper made against amy.

None exist.

He was not threatening her or her dog.

He wanted the dog leashed, that's all he did.. that's the law she was breaking. Detail what threat you think he made.

He didn't.

BLM do not want to kill police.

They want police to stop killing them. Basic logical difference.

George Floyd is a clear example of that.

And your touting of the three s's is purely murderous against innocent black people.

Your "facts" and "reality" are really neither.

They're ill-thought-out to boot.

Christian Cooper recounts incident with Amy Cooper before Central Park video
By Kate SheehyMay 26, 2020 | 4:46pm | Updated
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The black man accosted by a white dog-walker in Central Park has posted an online rundown of what happened right before videotaping the now-infamous confrontation.

Christian Cooper — a Harvard University grad, former Marvel Comics editor and a current member of the board of directors for the New York City chapter of the Audubon Society, according to reports and the nature organization — wrote on Facebook on Monday:

“Central Park this morning: This woman’s dog is tearing through the plantings in the Ramble.

“ME: Ma’am, dogs in the Ramble have to be on the leash at all times. The sign is right there.

“HER: The dog runs are closed. He needs his exercise.

“ME: All you have to do is take him to the other side of the drive, outside the Ramble, and you can let him run off leash all you want.

“HER: It’s too dangerous.

“ME: Look, if you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.

“HER: What’s that?

“ME (to the dog): Come here, puppy!
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“HER: He won’t come to you.

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“ME: We’ll see about that…” before adding, “I pull out the dog treats I carry for just for such intransigence. I didn’t even get a chance to toss any treats to the pooch before Karen scrambled to grab the dog.

“HER: DON’T YOU TOUCH MY DOG!!!!!

“That’s when I started video recording with my iPhone, and when her inner Karen fully emerged and took a dark turn..

-then posted vid”

“Karen” refers to the social-media term for white women who call the cops on black people over harmless incidents.

Christian later explained that he pulls the dog-treat ploy on owner scofflaws hoping they’ll leash their pooches to restrain them from taking the goodies, thus getting them to comply with the rule. The Central Park dog-walker, investment banker Amy Cooper, has said she freaked out partly because she was afraid what was in the treats.

Amy was caught on the footage threatening to call the cops on Christian, to which he replied, “Please call the cops.”

Amy screamed back, “I’m going to tell them there’s an African American man threatening my life!” — a claim that has drawn widespread outrage for what critics, including Mayor Bill de Blasio, call its blatant racist undertone.

Christian responded, “Please tell them anything you like.”

Amy proceeded to call 911 and report that an “African American man” was “threatening me and my dog.”

She has since insisted she’s no racist, although it didn’t stop her employer, Franklin Templeton, from giving the University of Chicago business-school grad the boot Tuesday.

After cops arrived for a report of an “assault” at the park, they ended up leaving without filing any charges against anyone, police said.

Christian said in an interview set to air Tuesday that he had “the choice of either capitulating to this racist spin she was going to try to use to alter my behavior, or I could continue doing what I was doing, which was recording her scofflaw behavior on my iPhone.

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“So I decided I wasn’t going to be racially intimidated and just keep recording on my iPhone,” he told Newsy app, according to producer Matt Simon on Twitter.

Christian studied government at Harvard between 1980 and 1984, when he received a bachelor’s degree, according to a LinkedIn page attributed to him by such outlets as Heavy.com.

He also worked for nine years as a writer and editor at Marvel Comics, where he developed the first gay character for the “Star Trek” comics, said the LGBT magazine The Advocate.

Christian is currently a biomedical editor, according to LinkedIn.

He also is a board director for the local Audubon Society. The national organization put out a statement Tuesday saying, “We unequivocally condemn racist sentiments, behavior, and systems that undermine the humanity, rights, and freedom of Black people.

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The actual physical evidence shows that Trayvon was 100% the aggressor.

That he threatened her is clearly just your ownmalign inference totally unsupported by what chris actually said and posterd. it's purely only in your own mind, not in the facts.

You're reall going full on racist here, no way to deny it.

You've got the context completely wrong. BLM want police to stop; killing black peokle who are innocent or doing something really innocuous and are not in any way threatening police or doing anything that in any way would constitute a threat to them. Like George Floyd, or the guy killed in his relatives yard holding a cellphone not a gun, or the off-duty cop who walked into someone else's apartment and thought it was hers and killed the rightful tenant, or Ahmad Arberry simply jogging and threatening no one.

You're making murderous inferences here, not justified ones.

the doctokr who examined zim said his wounds were insignificant. that is clearly the case in those pictures. those are not wounds from the multiple heavy beatings he described. and he did decline hospitalization.

And to repeat the encounter took place far from his vehicle,

around several corners, well away from the street,

in the communal BACKYARD of the block T's dad was staying at.

Z had to have been chasing him to have ended up there.

T was trying to get away from the creepy man (Z) who was chasing him.

Z was the instigator. That's clea

Your claim Chris Cooper threatened Amy on facebook is completely unsuppoerted by what he said.

From NY Post:

Quote:

"ME: Look, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're not going to like it.

"HER: What's that?

"ME (to the dog): Come here, puppy!

"HER: He won't come to you.

"ME: We'll see about that..." before adding, "I pull out the dog treats I carry for just for such intransigence. I didn't even get a chance to toss any treats to the pooch before Karen scrambled to grab the dog.

"HER: DON'T YOU TOUCH MY DOG!!!!!

Just to be clear - the physical evidence shows only that Zimmerman lost of the fight. It does not show who the instigator / agressor was. Being attacked and being able defend yourself from attack while throwing a better punch, does not make the person throwing a better punch the agressor. Even ending up on top, particularly if you have rolled around a couple of times, does not make you the agressor.

As for your nonsense claims regarding the Coopers.

A vague threat is always subjective, and always requires context to understand. For example, you'll get whats coming to you, can easily mean:
- Karma will get you
- "I'm going to sue you for everything"
- you'll be on social media and condemned by everyone
- I'm going to kill you
- etc
...only context, including the nature of the person saying the thing, can help interpret such a vague 'threat', as to its meaning, and even if it is a 'threat' (ie. not a 'karma will get you', and not a unlawful threat - like I'm going to sue you, or a non violent threat - ie, I'm posting your behaviour on instagram).

The nature of Christian Cooper was:
- lawful (asking her to leash her dog)
- calm
- sounded somewhat bemused
- no moves towards her
- videoing (people with the above behaviour do not do this in order to attack or threaten another)

Your biased interpretation of events...where you admit to ignorning context (including the nature/behaviour of the person) in order to reach your conclusions...of a vague threat...

your ignoring of anything that does not support your congemnations of the black guy...

coupled with a history of favouring the white persons side....

You even said she would have been justified shooting him.

...show just how racist you are in this area.

In these types of situations, you have no interest in justice, which accounts for all contributing circumstances.

You have no interest in fairness...which accounts for all contributing circumstances an perceptions.

You have no interest in truth, which looks at and acknowledges all angles of an incident.

You claims that these are what is important to you are just fables made up by yourself, and largely only for yourself

your own posts show this,

and no-one else seems to buy your claims

The location of the fight proves that Mr. Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon four minutes earlier, when the dispatcher advised him that it was a bad idea.

He did make a move towards her. He tried to lure her pet away from her.

Saying that I condemn him is pretty strong language.

No such history. I only favor the white person when the white person is in the right.

Appeals to the crowd are a logical fallacy.

Uh no. Only Zimmerman can give the exact location he was when they told him to stop following.

And anything he says would of course be self serving. As he was supposed to meet police, he should have been back at his car / on the roadway...but he was holed up in an alley. So you have no facts - just a self serving statement by Zimmerman.

Now you're making things up.

He said "Come here puppy". Nothing he said was about moving towards her, and certainly nothing on the video showed him moving towards her or the dog.

It's quite obvious you condemn him,

when:
- you only argue for her perspective

- you remove his words from context

- you interpret them in the harshest light possible

- you say she would have been justified shooting him

And in each of these posts on these forums, you've a history of only supporting the white person,

and giving almost no credence to the black person.

That is your history on his forum.

You've not been able to show anywhere where you do otherwise,

despite numerous requests to back up your claims.

This is your reality on this forum.

True- but I wasn't appealing to crowd authority, but the opposite.

I was pointing out that here on this forum, you are the only one who thinks you deal in facts and reality, rather than your own opinion. And also that, I daresay everywhere else you hold these discussions the result is the same...perhaps excluding supremacists...That is to say, I wouldn't doubt virtually all others also think you deal in your own opinions. Ie. just because you think every other person on earth is crazy, does not make it so.

That is incorrect. It is possible to estimate how far he would have traveled in the 20 seconds or so that he jogged after Trayvon.

Wrong. The thug admitted on Facebook that he tried to lure her pet away from her.