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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 04:43 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
You do realize that when you make that argument you're making the case for banning semi auto guns too which the town hall meeting Marco Rubio organized met with wild enthusiasm when he inadvertently suggested it. Semi autos aren't popular with the majority either.

You're forgetting the Constitution again. Semi-autos don't produce aimed fire much faster than any other gun that is suitable for self defense.

There is no justification for outlawing them.

"Leftists thinking that it is fun to violate people's civil liberties" does not count as justification.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 04:45 pm
@oralloy,
And guns covered under the assault weapons ban remain banned no.matter whether you agree with the term or not. Semi autos with a standard magazines commit mass murder in five seconds and that is sufficient for most people to not want them around.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 04:47 pm
@MontereyJack,
Actually the 1994 ban on hunting rifles expired long ago. But the left will need to pay massive compensation to gun owners for having imposed this ban before you will ever get my support for any new gun laws.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 04:48 pm
@oralloy,
What color is the sky at 2 am.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 04:49 pm
@MontereyJack,
It's pretty weird the lengths that the left will go to in order to avoid addressing reality.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 04:50 pm
@oralloy,
The NSSF dosnt agree with you at all, and they are the gun industry direct lobby. They say that lightweight semi auto "military Style" (Or in their words "Modern Sporting Rifles")
"by their ability to load subsequent shells, allow quicker target acquisition for such animals a feral pigs.

Thats a market statement, used when they came up with that bS term "modern porting rifles" (In order to divert our attention that these weapon are copies of military rifles most used for urban assault.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 04:52 pm
@farmerman,
Pumps and lever-actions are fairly quick.

Kudos for acknowledging that the lobby for the gun manufacturers is the NSSF.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 05:04 pm
@oralloy,
The sky isn't actually blue. The molecules of atmosphere scatter different wavelength as of light different amounts and blue predominates. No sun nocolor. Your contention is as ludicrous as usual. And assault weapons ban so called remain constitutional whether you.like the language of not.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 05:06 pm
@MontereyJack,
Wrong again. There is no compelling government interest in outlawing pistol grips on a semi-auto rifle.

"Progressives thinking that it is fun to violate people's civil liberties" does not count as a compelling government interest.

As for denying the color of the sky, that just shows how far the left will go to deny reality.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 05:12 pm
@oralloy,
And some states currently ban them and the courts let those bans stand. And the new also lobbiesfor gun manufacturers. They're not limited to one lobby. Nobody is waiting for your support I assure you.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 05:13 pm
@MontereyJack,
Good luck getting any new gun laws without support from moderates like me.

No soup for you!

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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 05:17 pm
@oralloy,
What you think is compelling interest is purely in your own mind only. The public and the courts and state legislatures disagree with you and they have the clout.And it's got nothing to do with pistol grips. That's. Just silly.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 05:24 pm
@MontereyJack,
Wrong again. Your laws forbidding pistol grips on semi-auto rifles have everything to do with pistol grips on semi-auto rifles.

And gun rights activists have the clout to block all new gun laws.

If you ever want to stop violating people's civil liberties for fun (and pay compensation to your victims), let me know.

Until then, no soup for you!

Have fun helplessly wringing your hands and watching all of these massacres while nothing is done to prevent them.

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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 06:16 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

izzythepush wrote:
Not always. It's not blue here right now, it's black.
We call it night.

Do you also believe that all the colors change in a room whenever you turn a light switch off?


Color is a matter of perception.

What color is this dress?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/The_Dress_%28viral_phenomenon%29.png
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 06:48 pm
@InfraBlue,
The dress is blue and gold.

And reality is not "whatever the left wants it to be at a given moment".
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 06:54 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
The dress is blue and gold.


I see the dress as white and gold.

oralloy wrote:
And reality is not "whatever the left wants it to be at a given moment".


And other irrelevant straw men.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 06:59 pm
@InfraBlue,
You are wrong. The dress is blue and gold.

Calling out the left for denying reality is neither irrelevant nor a straw man.
snood
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 07:23 pm
@oralloy,
Are you too dumb to know the goddam dress was designed and promoted to have ambiguous colors? It’s like you look at the optical illusion that appears as both a young and old lady and INSIST it’s a young lady. Do you understand how freaking daft that is?
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 07:28 pm
@snood,
Leftists sure do get testy when people point out facts and reality.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 23 Sep, 2019 08:03 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

You are wrong. The dress is blue and gold.


White.
 

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