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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 09:17 am
@oralloy,
That's just it, nobody enjoys watching massacres except you. You seem to take a perverse pleasure from it.

Most gun nuts I've spoken to claim not to enjoy watching children being killed, it's something they're vehemently opposed to but they can't see any solution.

Not you though.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 09:24 am
@izzythepush,
What are you talking about? I never said that I enjoy watching massacres.

I'm telling him to enjoy the continued massacres. Because the massacres are going to continue unabated, with nothing being done to stop them.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 09:34 am
@oralloy,
I'm talking about the ghoulish pleasure you're demonstrating when you talk of future massacres. You don't mock people for wanting gun control, you mock people for being upset when innocents are killed.

That's not the behaviour of someone concerned with civil rights, it's the behaviour of a sick individual.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 09:42 am
@izzythepush,
They deserve to be mocked. They are bad people who are trying to violate other people's civil liberties for fun.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 09:45 am
@oralloy,
You're the bad person. You should be locked up.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 09:48 am
@izzythepush,
No. I'm the good guy here. I'm fighting to protect civil liberties.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 09:51 am
@oralloy,
Don't talk nonsense. You don't care about civil liberties, all you care about is that there will be more mass shootings.

You clearly are a danger to others, and you should be placed in a secure mental unit before you start acting out your fantasies.

Your posts read like the stuff mass shooters write before they commit another atrocity.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 09:55 am
@oralloy,
Thegun rights folks really do.love death dont they, the way rhey condone massacres and salivate at the prospect of more rather than doing anythiing about them
.

Glennn
 
  -3  
Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 10:02 am
@MontereyJack,
If the current gun laws are not being enforced, whose fault is that?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 10:06 am
@MontereyJack,
If you want my support for doing something to curb the massacres, first stop trying to violate people's civil liberties, and compensate all of your victims. Then we can talk about curbing massacres.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 10:07 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
You don't care about civil liberties, all you care about is that there will be more mass shootings.

No. I'm doing this because I care about civil liberties.

Opposing efforts to curb mass shootings is just a means to an end.


izzythepush wrote:
You clearly are a danger to others, and you should be placed in a secure mental unit before you start acting out your fantasies.
Your posts read like the stuff mass shooters write before they commit another atrocity.

Don't be silly.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 10:11 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Thegun rights folks really do.love death dont they, the way rhey condone massacres and salivatd at the pvthem.roszpect of more rather than doing anythiing about

You do have spell check on that phone don't you?

Gun owners are the opposite of wanting death, they actually want people to live. The right to self-defense is a human right, those who are against self-defense are the lovers of death.

Leftists send a confusing message on purpose. You tell us that we can't have guns because the police are there to protect us, and then they say the police are fascist and you can't trust the police. The SCOTUS has already ruled that the police have no legal obligation to protect you, our protection is in our own hands. If you want the population unarmed, then you are in favor of death and misery of the population at the hands of the criminals and the police.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 10:23 am
@oralloy,
Yiur support isnt particularly valuable. The support for more action on gun control by 145 top CEOs presented to trump on the other hand is
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 10:32 am
@Baldimo,
So try and tell me that rhe mass shooters like stephen paddock and dylan roof and the el.paso shooter were using their guns for self defense. Go ahead. Try.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 10:37 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Yiur support isnt particularly valuable. The support for more action on gun control by 145 top CEOs presented to trump on the other hand is

When my side defeats all new gun control laws, have fun watching the massacres continue unabated.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 10:38 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
So try and tell me that rhe mass shooters like stephen paddock and dylan roof and the el.paso shooter were using their guns for self defense. Go ahead. Try.

Are you an idiot? Where in anything I said gave you that sort of conclusion? You can't separate self-defense from murder? There are between 500,000 and 2.5 million self-defense gun uses each year, this was noted in the 2013 study released by the CDC, that the anti-gun groups ignore because it doesn't work with their propaganda. Go stuff your idiocy where the sun doesn't shine.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 15 Sep, 2019 12:24 pm
@Baldimo,
No, I'm not an idiot. Are you? You're the one who made a big deal of guns for self-defense as a justification. What is apparent is that guns are being used all too often NOT for self-defense, which is allegedly whythe amendment is there, but for violence and murder. That is aftyer all why they were invebted in the first place. That is inescapable in the nature of the gun and it is unacceptable.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 15 Sep, 2019 12:34 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
it is unacceptable.

Too bad. No new gun laws for you!

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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2019 08:47 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
No, I'm not an idiot. Are you?

Your lack of logic on this subject show's exactly what you are.

Quote:
You're the one who made a big deal of guns for self-defense as a justification.

That is exactly the justification. As has been pointed out and the left likes to ignore, there was a study released by the CDC pointing out that there are 500,000 to 2.5 million self-defense gun uses per year, that is a much higher number than the murders per year with guns.

Quote:
What is apparent is that guns are being used all too often NOT for self-defense, which is allegedly whythe amendment is there, but for violence and murder.

You would be wrong and the media has been doing a disservice to this country for the lies they tell about guns and self-defense. The Amendment is also there to allow us to protect our nation from a tyrannical govt. Which is exactly the type of govt the left wants in the US. The power to tell us what to eat, what car to drive, even where we can and can't work.

Quote:
That is aftyer all why they were invebted in the first place. That is inescapable in the nature of the gun and it is unacceptable.

Guns actually do nothing, to have an irrational fear of an intimate object is a sign of a mental disorder. The left should be more concerned with people than intimate objects.

vikorr
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 02:39 am
@Baldimo,
Out of curiousity -do you have a link to such? And do they include police officer use, or just civilian use? (To me it seems abnormally high for civilian use, but what do I really know about the US)

And I thought CDC stood for Centre of Disease Control, or some such.
 

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