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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 03:30 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

djjd62 wrote:

i will never understand ...



Drop in for a friendly visit - I will let you shoot a few rounds from a few rifles in my collection.
If nothing else, you will gain a new appreciation and understanding of fire arms and you may have some fun.

U r very generous.





David
Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 03:42 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Was the quote from Heller? Interesting!
Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 03:44 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Careful, the man comes across as a dangerous moron. He may mistake you for someone who came for his cherished guns.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 03:48 pm
@Advocate,


Beware, Advocate is the dangerous, moronic left wing loon everyone should avoid.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:05 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

Was the quote from Heller? Interesting!

The quote was from HELLER.

Among the purposes of 2A was the citizens' ability
to successfully defend themselves from tyranny.
The Founders had some PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE about that.

What 'd we do if elections were declared held in abayance, indefinitely,
with all incumbents to remain incumbent ?

Forget about democracy ?




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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:08 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:




Guns: how much longer will it take before
we have hand gun vending machines next to the Coke machines?


I LOVE IT!!!!! THANK U!





DAVID
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:08 pm
@Advocate,
i'm a moron, but i'm not dangerous Very Happy

i don't think anybody here is dangerous, perhaps misguided, but who's to say what guided is

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:11 pm
@djjd62,


I've un-ignored you Very Happy
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:14 pm
@H2O MAN,
i've been feeling overly pricky lately, i'll try to reign it in
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:15 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

i'm a moron, but i'm not dangerous Very Happy

i don't think anybody here is dangerous, perhaps misguided, but who's to say what guided is


and that's why I put you on ignore years ago.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:18 pm
@dyslexia,
but.......if.......i.......wait a minute
dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:20 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

but.......if.......i.......wait a minute
speak up, you snooze, you lose moron.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:30 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:




Guns: how much longer will it take before
we have hand gun vending machines next to the Coke machines?


I LOVE IT!!!!! THANK U!





DAVID



I knew you would dig it the most!
Cool
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 04:59 pm
@Advocate,
You do know that anyone can own a civil war field piece correct?

A friend of mine had one and the town of Florida City Florida gave him a hard time about firing it too often.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2009 05:40 am
So you guys are worry about assault weapons and other minor weapons in the hands of the citizens?

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http://tmiller.web.aplus.net/wordpress/?p=202

11.16.07Big Guns For Sale For the Real Civil War Artillery EnthusiastPosted in Civil War at 9:26 pm by Tim

Civil War artillery has always fascinated me. I love to study the guns and tactics of course, and collecting the shells is a blast, but none of that can hold a candle - or a fuse - to watching the real thing set off at reenactments and demonstrations. The beautiful green barrels of the bronze Napoleons scattered across the battlefield parks have become a sort of icon in my mind for the real war.



To make the move from spectator to rammer I always thought I would have to join a reenactment group, but there is another way. All I have to do is convince Warren Buffet that I am his son.

That’s right kids, for $180,000 you too can own an authentic Civil War cannon. Actually it isn’t quite that bad, but close enough that it’s all the same for this wannabe.

After a brief search on the web I found several dealers with full size cannon for sale. At CiviLWarPreservations.com They are offering a 24lb Tredegar Foundry heavy field barrel for $89,000. At another site you can buy a 6lb howitzer for $30,000, a pair of matching 4 inch “gunades” for $16,000 or, for the very discriminating artillerist, the only complete and original 1862 Confederate mountain rifle in existence.



The $189,500 price tag includes shipping anywhere in the US. You have to admit, that is a serious piece of American history to still be for sale to the private collector.

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2009 05:47 am
@BillRM,

We have the worlds only double barreled cannon in my town Cool

http://goldenink.com/images/doublebarrelcannon1.jpg
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2009 07:14 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



I've un-ignored you Very Happy

On the strength of my respect for the waterman 's judgment,
I will let u out of the dungeon
.

I respect your right to 100% free speech & freedom of any opinion,
but if u choose be personally offensive, please keep it within reason.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2009 07:48 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

The term assault rifle is a translation of the German word Sturmgewehr (literally meaning "storm rifle"), "storm" used as a verb being synonymous with assault, as in "to storm the compound". The name was coined by Adolf Hitler[1] to describe the Maschinenpistole 44, subsequently re-christened Sturmgewehr 44, the firearm generally considered the first true assault rifle that served to popularize the concept.

The translation assault rifle gradually became the common term for similar firearms sharing the same technical definition as the StG 44. In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[2][3][4]

It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
It must be capable of selective fire;
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.
Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles despite frequently being considered as such. For example, semi-automatic-only rifles that share designs with assault rifles such as the AR-15 (which the M-16 rifle is based on) are not assault rifles, as they are not capable of switching to automatic fire and thus not selective fire. Belt-fed weapons (such as the M249 SAW) or rifles with fixed magazines are likewise not assault rifles because they do not have detachable box magazines.

The term "assault rifle" is often more loosely used for commercial or political reasons to include other types of arms, particularly arms that fall under a strict definition of the battle rifle, or semi-automatic variant of military rifles such as AR-15s

The US Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges".[5]

--wikepedia.com

Advocate:
I agree with this description of assault rifles.
Most pointedly: assault rifles r capable of fully automatic fire.

As this article indicates: it is most worthy of note
that reference in the media to "assault rifles" is incorrect
insofar as that nomenclature is applied to semi-automatic weapons,
e.g. a Garand, an M-1 Carbine or an M-14 without a selector switch.

An "assault weapon" can be anything from a rolled-up newspaper,
to a slingshot, to a chair that is used to assault someone.

It is worthy of historical note, that the nazi Sturmgewehr
was the progenitor of the commie AK 47,
Kalashnickov 's protestations to the contrary notwithstanding,
inasmuch as Louis Schmeisser had been captured by the Red Army
and was in close attendance to Kalashnickov 's project (literally a slave thereto).





David
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2009 09:18 am
David - I thought you gun folk knew everything about guns. The key definition of a assault rifle is not automatic fire, but that the rate of fire is variable, i.e. - you can have multiple modes (single, 3-round burst, full auto). A fully automatic machine gun is not a "assault rifle" by definition, however it may fall under the definition of a "assault weapon" based on it's features (clip size etc).

Just when I think there is one topic you guys might actually know enough about...

T
K
O
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2009 09:22 am
@Diest TKO,

Wrong!

TKO get's another one wrong!

Pay attention!
A semi automatic rifle that has no other mode of fire has never been an assault rifle and it never will be an assault rifle.

Got it?

 

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