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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2018 05:05 am
I should mention.... the Spetznaz group in Houston was giving out those spiffy "I colluded with Russia/Я вступил в сговор с Россией" tshirts on the street and I got the last size 2x they had!!
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2018 05:55 am
@gungasnake,
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Putin and Trump are the hope of the world. 

They are the grave diggers of this world, the rapists of this world, the conmen of our world, and as far as Putain is concerned, a murderer in chief as well.

You know what Jesus said about rich men, camels and needle shafts, right? It's like that with Trump and Putin. Too rich to be any good.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2018 08:17 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
The EU is directing a policy aimed at the annihilation of the demographic basis, culture, and religion of indigenous Europeans.
It certainly would be interesting (at least for some, especially me) what people/tribes you consider to be "indigenous Europeans.

There was the Paleolithic migration of hunter-gatherers, the Neolithic migration of Middle-Eastern farmers and the Bronze-Age migration of invaders from the Caspian steppe. Then ...

The tribe, where my ancestors lived, was called Bructeri. They defeated Varus (together with the Cherusci, Marsi, Chatti, Sicambri, and Chauci), participated in the Batavian rebellion, occupied a rather large territory and ... disappear from historical records.

Perhaps, they became part of one of the other Sacon tribes and were later absorbed into the Frankish communities of the early Middle Ages.

At least, my family name comes from the Old Saxon language, the only thing I still have from my "indigenous European" ancestors.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2018 09:25 am
@Olivier5,
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They are the grave diggers of this world, the rapists of this world,


Sorry, Islam has that title, hands down.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 12:42 am
@Olivier5,
You have to be rich to have any shot at surviving against the fricking globalists.

Trump and Putin have put themselves in a position to challenge the lunatics.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 01:13 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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The tribe, where my ancestors lived, was called Bructeri. They defeated Varus (together with the Cherusci, Marsi, Chatti, Sicambri, and Chauci), participated in the Batavian rebellion, occupied a rather large territory and ... disappear from historical records.

The Huns perhaps? If I remember well, they fought, then allied with Saxons tribes. Those guys did genocide Europeans alright...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 04:13 am
@Olivier5,
Non, non, pas du tout!

One of my ancestors died in 1657 when he had joined the prince-bishop's troops (The Münster prince bishop had a feud with the city and was thrown out.)

https://i.imgur.com/i7kTxaKl.jpg
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 10:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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One of my ancestors died in 1657 when he had joined the prince-bishop's troops


Exactly what the gun debate needs. Nothing like getting to the heart of the problem.
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Wally world
Nickname for Wal-Mart that is used for over-zealous shoppers who just can't get enough of the store you can buy guns, knives, toys and groceries at but can't buy white-out unless you're over 18 and have an I.D.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wally%20world
revelette1
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 11:16 am
From most, not all, the following is the present mind set of gun right activist. It is embarrassing to have a President like this, but his followers, for the most part come across as simple minded as he does.

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President Donald Trump harkened back to the racist attack he made on Mexican immigrants on the first day of his campaign in the summer of 2015 during a speech at the National Rifle Association (NRA) convention Friday.

“These countries send up their worst,” Trump said, addressing the crowd assembled in Dallas, Texas. “Remember in my opening speech, I got criticized for it. Remember? Well, guess what. They’re not sending their finest. That I can tell you.”

In his opening speech nearly three years ago, Trump said Mexico was “not sending their best,” a racist attack that drove his campaign and eventually catapulted him into the White House.

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” he said at the time. “They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

He resorted to the same dishonest smear Friday.

“We’re getting some real beauties in here,” he said. “But we’re taking MS-13 horrible killer gang members. We’re getting them out because our guys are much tougher than there is not even a little bit of a contest. And that’s the only language they understand. That’s the only language they understand. These are savage killers.”

It’s simply not true.

As The Washington Post wrote at the time, “Data on immigrants and crime are incomplete, but a range of studies show there is no evidence immigrants commit more crimes than native-born Americans. In fact, first-generation immigrants are predisposed to lower crime rates than native-born Americans.”

Immigration and crime have also had, as the Post noted, inverse trajectories since the 1990s: immigration has risen, while crime as fallen.

Trump’s address to the NRA convention comes just weeks after saying the powerful lobbying organization doesn’t have power over him.
“They [the NRA] have great power over you people,” he told a group of lawmakers gathered at the White House in February. “They have less power over me.”


TP
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 11:21 am
@coldjoint,
I don't remember that I ever did it in all the 16 years here, but ... eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth ...

You, one's old bean, really are a loudmouth.
When, where and how often did you get your deep insight knowledge in England?
And what was about your gun proficiency again?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 11:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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I don't remember that I ever did it in all the 16 years here

I do not care how long you have been here or what you have done. You are entitled to an opinion just like me. Deal with it, Wally.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 11:37 am
@revelette1,
So you'd prefer Bork Obunga's version of an immigration plan i.e. prioritize immigration from a place like Somalia which is 99% muslim and has an average IQ of 68?

I mean, at least one of the gorillas which has been taught deaf signs has taken human IQ tests on two or three occasions and gotten scores of 75 - 90. That says we could simply bring gorillas into the country and turn them loose and be better off than we were two years ago.

And all of that was while absolutely barring the door against real Christian refugees and anybody else who really need to find places of refuge.

The thing which is really different now versus 1969 is the thing about the pigs these days all calling themselves demokkkrats. The Obunga immigration plan is the kind of thing I'd expect from pigs.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 12:08 pm
@gungasnake,
you'r certainly one obsessed and angry dude. If it wasnt for OBAMA rescuing the economy in his first term, wed be a third world nation and Trump would still be getting pissed on by workin girls.

I like the way you guy try to revise history by sounding like you know of wht you speak.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 01:29 pm
@gungasnake,
just the usual racist nonsense.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 01:46 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Monsieur Hinteler, s'il vous plait...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 02:00 pm
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A senior London surgeon has hit back at US President Donald Trump for criticising the level of knife crime in the city while defending US gun laws.

Prof Karim Brohi, who heads the group overseeing the city's trauma treatment, said it was "ridiculous" to suggest guns could help combat knife violence.

He said the capital faced a "serious issue" but gunshot wounds were at least twice as lethal as knife injuries.

Mr Trump's comments came in a speech to the National Rifle Association (NRA).

Addressing the firearms lobby's conference in Dallas, Texas, on Friday, Mr Trump referred to reading a story "that in London, which has unbelievably tough gun laws, a once very prestigious hospital right in the middle is like a war zone for horrible stabbing wounds".

It is unclear where Mr Trump sourced his information. However, leading London trauma surgeon Dr Martin Griffiths, who works at the Royal London Hospital, told BBC Radio 4 a month ago that his hospital was likened to an Afghan war zone.

The interview was the basis for a Daily Mail article.

Prof Brohi, who is also a trauma surgeon at the Royal London, is clinical director of the London Major Trauma System Directorate. The organisation has responsibility for co-ordination and policy development between hospitals in and around London dealing with serious injuries.

In a statement released by Barts NHS Trust, he said: "We are proud of the excellent trauma care we provide and of our violence reduction programmes...

"There is more we can all do to combat this violence, but to suggest guns are part of the solution is ridiculous. Gunshot wounds are at least twice as lethal as knife injuries and more difficult to repair.

"We are proud of our world-leading service and to serve the people of London."

Dr Griffiths had earlier responded to Mr Trump on Twitter with an image suggesting the president had missed the point, adding that he was "happy to invite Mr Trump to my prestigious hospital".

He had told the BBC last month about treating stabbing victims "on a daily basis".

Dr Griffiths said: "Some of my military colleagues have described their practice here as being similar to being at [Helmand province's former Camp] Bastion."

He added: "We routinely have children under our care, 13, 14, 15 years old are daily occurrences, knife and gun wounds."

Mr Trump is due to visit the UK on 13 July, after previously cancelling a trip amid calls for mass protests.

Referring to London in his NRA speech, Mr Trump, had said they don't have guns. They have knives and instead there's blood all over the floors of this hospital.

"They say it's as bad as a military war zone hospital. Knives, knives, knives, knives." He mimed a stabbing motion.

"London hasn't been used to that. They're getting used to it. It's pretty tough."

At least 38 people in London have lost their lives to knife crime so far this year, the Met Police has said.

But Marian Fitzgerald, a criminologist at the University of Kent, said although there had been a spike in knife-related deaths in London, it was a separate issue to gun control.

She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "It's just politically convenient, in a speech to the gun rights lobby, to try and make those comparisons and they are totally spurious.

In a tweet, shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said she could "hardly see how violent crime in London justifies the licensing of guns in the US".

Lib Dem home affairs spokesman Sir Ed Davey acknowledged crime had risen in the capital, but said Mr Trump's remarks were "nevertheless ridiculous" and revealed "his ignorance of Britain".

The Home Office has not responded to the comments.

It was Mr Trump's fourth address to the NRA and his second in office. The last president to do so was Ronald Reagan in 1983.

The lobby supported Mr Trump during his 2016 presidential election, spending more than $11m (£8m) in advertisements for him, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

After a high school shooting in Parkland, Florida, left 17 dead in February, Mr Trump said he would "fight" the NRA on gun control. But he later said there was "not much political support".

The Met Police and London Mayor Sadiq Khan declined to comment on Mr Trump's latest remarks.

Last year Mr Trump criticised Mr Khan for his handling of terrorist attacks in the city.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44017054
McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 02:06 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

If it wasnt for OBAMA rescuing the economy in his first term, wed be a third world nation.

I like the way you guy try to revise history by sounding like you know of wht you speak.


What was the debt when Obama left compared to his start?

On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, when he left, it was $19.947 trillion.

Hmmm... 9 Trillion Dollars... Thanks for rescuing the economy.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 02:18 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Monsieur Hinteler, s'il vous plait...
Et j'ai aussi un permis de porte-d'armes!

https://i.imgur.com/c7V17crl.jpg

Actually from a maternal great-great-grandfather
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 04:14 pm
@McGentrix,
so the fact that the economy is on a record upside for the lst 9 years is nothing to you? It didnt mean **** to you, that people were being put bck to work in OBAMAtime ? Had it not been for #44 There would be no Trump taking credit for the sunrise .
As far as the debt, does the TRUMP "focused"tax cut raise or lower it??? You neocons are a shifty bunch. You only seek credit for expediency, and you like to use deficits when its a DEM thing but you will totally

PS, Barrons said that your number blows.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2018 04:29 pm
@farmerman,
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that people were being put bck to work in OBAMAtime ?

With part time jobs and doctored numbers to make Obama look like he actually did something to grow business, when all he did was regulate many small businesses out of business.

Why people insist he did anything but divide the country, chip away at our sovereignty, and pay for Iran's terror for years to come is beyond me. History will call him what he was, a bad president and a traitor.
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