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Isn't it nice to not have such an incompetent tool in the White house?

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2009 09:45 pm
@kickycan,
yes, it is a relief.


It really is.


I have to say I feel very sorry for the poor man, though.

What a horrible job!!!
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2009 09:48 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
DontTreadOnMe wrote:

roger wrote:

I cannot imagine anyone playing down his speaking skills. Nor Bill Clinton's, for that matter.


ahh. roger baits the trap with troll treats...


They are both outstanding public speakers. Is there a problem with saying so?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2009 11:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
The American People elected Bush....Twice. Five minutes of pondering that thought
We call that "the lost generation". ACtually, the Supreme Court elected Bush the first time. The people actually selected someone else by a small but measurable plurality.

Bush begot :"the Tribulation" in AMerican Governance.
BUSH is writing a book --I predict that this line will beget an entire new batch of jokes about his incompetence.

DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2009 01:32 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

roger wrote:

I cannot imagine anyone playing down his speaking skills. Nor Bill Clinton's, for that matter.


ahh. roger baits the trap with troll treats...


They are both outstanding public speakers. Is there a problem with saying so?


absolutely not, dude. i am in complete agreement. we actually saw bill speak at the local college when he was president. excellent.

but of course, not everyone agrees with that.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2009 06:09 am
@kickycan,
That's the happiest possible analysis. The dim view reads like this:

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/03/19/terence-corcoran-is-this-the-end-of-america.aspx

Quote:

Terence Corcoran: Is this the end of America?
Posted: March 19, 2009, 7:38 PM by NP Editor
Terence Corcoran, Ben Bernanke, inflation
U.S. law-making is riddled with slapdash, incompetence and gamesmanship

By Terence Corcoran

Helicopter Ben Bernanke’s Federal Reserve is dropping trillions of fresh paper dollars on the world economy, the President of the United States is cracking jokes on late night comedy shows, his energy minister is threatening a trade war over carbon emissions, his treasury secretary is dithering over a banking reform program amid rising concerns over his competence and a monumentally dysfunctional U.S. Congress is launching another public jihad against corporations and bankers.

As an aghast world " from China to Chicago and Chihuahua " watches, the circus-like U.S. political system seems to be declining into near chaos. Through it all, stock and financial markets are paralyzed. The more the policy regime does, the worse the outlook gets. The multi-ringed spectacle raises a disturbing question in many minds: Is this the end of America?

Probably not, if only because there are good reasons for optimism. The U.S. economy has pulled out of self-destructive political spirals in the past, spurred on by its business class and corporate leaders, the profit-making and market-creating people who rose above the political turmoil to once again lift the world out of financial crisis. It’s happened many times before, except for once, when it took 20 years to rise out of the Great Depression.

Past success, however, is no guarantee of future recovery, especially now when there are daily disasters and new indicators of political breakdown. All developments are not disasters in themselves. The AIG bonus firestorm is a diversion from real issues , but it puts the ghastly political classes who make U.S. law on display for what they are: ageing self-serving demagogues who have spent decades warping the U.S. political system for their own ends. We see the system up close, law-making that is riddled with slapdash, incompetence and gamesmanship.

One test of whether we are witnessing the end of America is how many more times Americans put up with congressional show trials of individual business people and their employees, slandering and vilifying them for their actions and motives. And for how long will they tolerate a President who berates business and corporations as dens of crime and malfeasance? If the majority of Americans come to accept the caricatures of business as true, then America is closer to the end of its life as a global leader, as a champion of markets and individualism.

But America is at risk in other ways, especially in the technical business of setting and executing policy. The presidency of Barack Obama has set out on a course that has no precedent in U.S. history. Franklin D. Roosevelt, whose New Deal transformed the U.S. economy during the Great Depression, pushed America off on a sharply different political and ideological course. The Obama administration is different in many ways, not least in its supreme self-confidence in its methods and objectives.

Reform of health care, environmental policy, education, energy, banking, regulation " every nook and cranny of the U.S. economy has been put on alert for major change. Expansion of government spending, plunging the U.S. into unprecedented deficits, is without parallel. In economic policy, through regulation and control of energy output, financial services and monetary expansion, the U.S. government has embarked on a fundamental reshaping of America. It is designed, in short, to bring on the end of America.

The spillover effect of all this on the rest of the world promises to be dramatically disruptive. The greatest global risk is in monetary and currency policy. Below is a chart that graphically demonstrates the sharp deviation in monetary policy from past norms. Under the chairmanship of Ben Bernanke, the Federal Reserve is in the midst of a giant economic experiment, flooding the world with U.S. dollars, hoping that flood will stimulate economic activity.

The total monetary base, already at astronomical levels, is now expected to take another big hit with the new Fed policy of buying up U.S. longer-term treasury bills in a bid to drive down long-term interest rates.

Mr. Bernanke is sometimes known as “Helicopter Ben” because he once in an academic paper referred to the use of “helicopters” full of money to rescue an economy from deflation. In comments Wednesday to explain the Fed’s new policy of buying $300-billion in U.S. treasury bills, Mr. Bernanke noted that the Fed is now more worried about inflation being too low than about it getting too high in the future.

For the rest of the world, however, the worry is that America is at risk of becoming the fountainhead of a new inflationary outburst. The U.S. dollar is now in decline, gold is moving sharply higher, and new global currency turmoil is on the horizon.

It may not happen. A paper just published by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, source of the chart above, says that the Fed will have to be prepared to absorb all the excess money it has poured into the U.S. economy. It will be a technical and political challenge unlike any central bank has ever undertaken. The future of America is at stake.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2009 06:13 am
Basically, after a couple of months, it's possible to say that what we have in Washington right now is the worst clown act there has ever been, making even James Carter and SlicKKK KKKlintler look good.

Despite anything you might think about George W. Bush who was very far from anything I'd consider to be a good president, the system had been under some semblance of adult supervision for eight years. It no longer is.
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2009 06:51 am
@farmerman,
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2009 06:53 am
@gungasnake,
It's always funny to get the news reports from RW WORLD

Quote:
The U.S. dollar is now in decline, gold is moving sharply higher, and new global currency turmoil is on the horizon.




Meanwhile in the real world
Euro, Yen make dollar look good

And the gold is currently $70 off its high of Feb.
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2009 07:02 am
@kickycan,
kickycan wrote:

During his press conference tonight, he answered one reporter who asked why it took him so long to respond to something (I missed the beginning of the question) with the following: "It took a couple days for my response because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak."

And there we see a perfect illustration of the difference between them.


I liked that bit too. It is a huge contrast from "I like to practice my lines before I speak because there is no way I could possibly comprehend such a complex subject."
Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2009 07:41 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

But truth be told, I am also marveling that the American people had what it took to get this man into office - a principled, contemplative (self-identified as) Black man like Obama.



But truth be told, was his maturation process sort of unique as a (self-identified) Black man, having had a White grandmother raising him in his formative years?

And, as far as the American people electing him - while some Black folks pondered, "Is he Black enough?," were there many White folks that pondered, "Is he White enough?" Perhaps, the answer sometimes was "Yes." Will we ever know?

The only thing, I believe, we can be sure of, is that the American people have overcome bi-raciality (having not thought of him by a term used in early 20th century America). That is good, since it has been "purity" of race that made earlier generations of America "so" racist, I believe.

So, we have a bi-racial President (regardless of how he self-identifies) that many Americans are happy to have in the White House. That is progress, I believe.

And, even those folks that do not appreciate Obama in the White House, I believe, most people are very positive about the First Lady being in the White House, and that adds credence to the change in America's racial attitudes, since the First Lady is 100% African-American. So, she might reflect America's change, more than her husband?
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2009 01:35 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

It's always funny to get the news reports from RW WORLD

Quote:
The U.S. dollar is now in decline, gold is moving sharply higher, and new global currency turmoil is on the horizon.


Meanwhile in the real world
Euro, Yen make dollar look good

And the gold is currently $70 off its high of Feb.



and since when does the hard right give a rat's flying fuzzy through a rolling donut what the canucks think about anything.

even more bizarre, last night hannity was crowing (him being a big cock and all) about how "the french president, sarkozy" disagrees with obama's direction.

gee, sean... what happened to "freedom fries", dude????

what a complete gaper....
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2009 05:45 pm
@FreeDuck,
FreeDuck wrote:
kickycan wrote:

During his press conference tonight, he answered one reporter who asked why it took him so long to respond to something (I missed the beginning of the question) with the following: "It took a couple days for my response because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak."

And there we see a perfect illustration of the difference between them.


I liked that bit too. It is a huge contrast from "I like to practice my lines before I speak because there is no way I could possibly comprehend such a complex subject."

This is certainly not the "no spin zone."
snood
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2009 05:47 am
@Ticomaya,
Ticomaya wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:
kickycan wrote:

During his press conference tonight, he answered one reporter who asked why it took him so long to respond to something (I missed the beginning of the question) with the following: "It took a couple days for my response because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak."

And there we see a perfect illustration of the difference between them.


I liked that bit too. It is a huge contrast from "I like to practice my lines before I speak because there is no way I could possibly comprehend such a complex subject."

This is certainly not the "no spin zone."


Which is spin? The part about Obama being someone whose answers to press questions are thoughtful and well-phrased, or the part about Bush being someone whose incompetent and incomprehensible performances insulted our intelligence for 8 years?
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2009 08:57 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
Which is spin? The part about Obama being someone whose answers to press questions are thoughtful and well-phrased, or the part about Bush being someone whose incompetent and incomprehensible performances insulted our intelligence for 8 years?

The part where his remark as accepted as a beacon of his thoughtfulness, and not merely an indication of his intense desire to have his remarks prepared and typed up on his teleprompter well in advance.

If Bush had made a similar remark you leftists would highlight it as demonstrative of his incompetence and lack of intelligence.

Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2009 09:22 am
@Ticomaya,
This might be a compelling argument, if Obama hadn't answered all the reporter's questions so well - sans teleprompter.

Cycloptichorn
parados
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2009 09:27 am
@Cycloptichorn,
But Cyc.

You are assuming that the WH didn't plant reporters in the pool so they could specifically call on them knowing their questions in advance, because said reporter visited the WH and supposedly worked for an unknown web news agency.

If Obama had done that, then he might have been using the teleprompter for his answers.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2009 09:29 am
No one had to pick on Bush. He did such a wonderful job of portraying himself as a complete fool.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2009 09:47 am
@Ticomaya,
Ticomaya wrote:
If Bush had made a similar remark you leftists would highlight it as demonstrative of his incompetence and lack of intelligence.

Thanks, Ticomaya, for bringing us back into the "no spin zone" with this remark. Bill O'Reilly himself couldn't have purged the leftists' spin any better.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2009 11:05 am
@Ticomaya,
Ticomaya wrote:

If Bush had made a similar remark you leftists would highlight it as demonstrative of his incompetence and lack of intelligence.

Not true. If Bush had said those words I would have pointed out how completely absurd it sounded coming from him, but not as demonstrative of his incompetence. We have his actions to demonstrate that.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2009 02:41 pm
@Ticomaya,
Ticomaya wrote:

... his intense desire to have his remarks prepared and typed up on his teleprompter well in advance.


"oooohhhhh.... obama uses a teleprompter."

and bush? "bush good. him use flip book. bad teleprompter make speechifying too hard work for bush".

but since bush uses a flip book, the teleprompter clearly visible to his right (and right below grampa dick's right hand ) is just there for show, right?



yesss!! teleprompters! now there's a meaningful issue with legs!!
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