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Memories of 21, 42, 63 ... the 84th meandering

 
 
Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 8 Oct, 2009 12:24 pm
Afghanistan Issues Its 1st Wildlife Hunting Ban

Snow leopards, wolves, and brown bears are among the 20 mammals, seven birds, four plants and other creatures now on Afghanistan's first-ever list of protected species, banned from being hunted or harvested.

The newly earned legal protection will help Afghanistan’s wildlife and plants recover from the impacts of more than 30 years of conflict. The wide-ranging list also is aimed to protect the paghman salamander, goitered gazelle and Himalayan elm tree.

Afghanistan’s snow leopards are under threat from excessive hunting, loss of key habitat, and illegal trade. Snow leopard pelts for sale in tourist shops can go for as much as $1,500 each. Though international trade in these big cats is illegal because of their globally endangered status, last month, it would have been legal for any person to kill and trade a snow leopard inside Afghanistan. The new law reverses that.

The protected species list also comes at a critical time for Afghanistan’s wild species; a presidential decree banning hunting in the country expired in March. Last month, the country announced the creation of its first national park: Band-e-Amir, a series of six deep blue lakes separated by natural dams made of travertine, a mineral deposit.



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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 8 Oct, 2009 07:26 pm
@Stradee,
napped
clicked
will sleep again
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 10:57 am
@Stradee,
Great areticle about Afghanistan's effort to protect.

Hurray for the USA!

October 9, 2009
U.S. Blocks Oil Drilling at 60 Sites in Utah
By JOHN M. BRODER

WASHINGTON " The Department of the Interior has frozen oil and gas development on 60 of 77 contested drilling sites in Utah, saying the process of leasing the land was rushed and badly flawed.

The 77 government-owned parcels, covering some 100,000 acres in eastern and southern Utah, were leased in the last weeks of the Bush administration. But the leases were immediately challenged by conservation groups, and in January a federal judge blocked drilling on the ground that the Interior Department had failed to follow its own procedures for reviewing the appropriateness of lands designated for oil and gas extraction.

An Interior Department review team then presented Secretary Ken Salazar with a recommendation that drilling be allowed to proceed on 17 of the 77 parcels. But it also said that the leases on eight parcels should be withdrawn and that 52 should be subjected to further study because of potential threats to wildlife and air and water quality.

In announcing Thursday that he had accepted those recommendations, Mr. Salazar said there was a “headlong rush” at the end of the Bush administration to lease the sites, without proper attention to environmental and aesthetic concerns. Some of the parcels are near Arches National Park, Canyonlands National Park and Dinosaur National Monument.

The report of the review team “helps clear off the cloud that has hung over these 77 parcels since they were first proposed,” Mr. Salazar said, “and includes site-specific decisions on which should be leased and which " such as those near national parks " are simply not appropriate for development.”

In recommending lease withdrawal or further study for 60 of the parcels, the review team gave a variety of reasons, including possible damage to the habitat of sage grouse, which is being considered for endangered species protection, and to avoid the dust and noise pollution associated with drilling operations.

Conservation groups that had sued to block the leases applauded Mr. Salazar for weighing environmental effects in reconsidering the actions of the Bush administration. They expressed relief that most of the potential drilling sites would receive further scrutiny, and said they hoped that the leases on those sites would ultimately be withdrawn as well.

“Stopping the leasing of these treasured lands to protect them from devastation by oil and gas companies was the right thing to do,” said Amy Mall of the Natural Resources Defense Council. “The Department of Interior should move forward with clean energy solutions that will protect our pristine wild lands and vital wildlife areas and cut carbon pollution.”

Jack N. Gerard, president of the American Petroleum Institute, the chief trade group for the industry, criticized the action, saying it was one of a series by the Obama administration to thwart oil and gas development.

“This troubling trend means less revenue to federal, state and local governments at a time when our nation is running a record deficit,” Mr. Gerard said. “It also means fewer jobs at a time our nation is headed toward 10 percent unemployment, and it means less domestic energy available when our economy recovers and demand rebounds.”
Stradee
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 11:47 am
@sumac,
Good decision!

http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=583091674
danon5
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 01:25 pm
@Stradee,
Stradee, your stuff on Afganistan gave me a chuckle....... It brought back some stuff re. killing of our soldiers. It would be a good thing if they - the - Afgan Gov. banned THAT!!

sumac, Yes the deer do make those sounds. I hear them a LOT around my home here in NE TX. It's a warning sound that they make when threatened. It is like a hoarse cough that one makes when they have a cold only it is also mixed in with a snort sound. Lately, the herd stays close to our home - we are situated in the middle of 25 acres - and approx 5 miles outside of the limits of a verrry small town and our outside burgler alarm (Chloe) is getting old to the point that when she sees the deer herd she just watches them and doesn't chase them away. The deer also make some verrrrrrry strange noises - usually at about 10 to 12 pm during mating season. It is a noise that sounds like a baby crying at high pitch. As Maxwell Smart would say, "Would you believe a kid in the woods at night?"

It's nice to live out here with the rest of the animals. Grin

Croaked for all. ((My Frog takeoff))

Stradee
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 01:42 pm
@danon5,
That would be a good recovery sign also. Smile

Word Reaction - Obama's Nobel Peace Prize

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20091009/wl_time/08599192939300

congrats, prez Very Happy







ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 03:05 pm
@Stradee,
clicked
sooo ready for our Thanksgiving long weekend

(need time to figger out what's happened to my puter - now OE won't let me respond to emails Rolling Eyes gakkkkkkkkkkkk)
danon5
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 05:49 pm
@ehBeth,
My God, ehBeth - are you apoplectic?? (I looked it up and it's spelled ok.) You must be have shingles and such by now!!!!!!! (Rats - missspelled again.)

I would have corrected it - but, had already sent it.

Big Grin!!
Stradee
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 05:57 pm
@danon5,
Only if you had Chicken Pox do ya get shingles - but still, feetsies feel like they're on fire even if you didn't... (get c.p. that is) just cause.

But what does that have to do with e mail?

I'm sooooooooo Confused ..........................................

not really

just thought i'd say that

truly

Beth, hope your holiday is restful and happy. Smile

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sumac
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 08:25 am
Chevon spilling oil in the rainforests of Ecuador. Peasants up in arms.

October 10, 2009
Ecuador Oil Pollution Case Only Grows Murkier
By SIMON ROMERO and CLIFFORD KRAUSS

QUITO, Ecuador " The multibillion-dollar legal case between Amazon peasants and Chevron over oil pollution in Ecuador’s rain forest keeps unfolding more like a mystery thriller than a battle of briefs.

Ever since the oil giant released videos in August that were secretly taped by two businessmen who seemed to have the ambition of feasting off the expected $27 billion in damages sought, Ecuadorean officials and Chevron have accused each other of gross improprieties, including espionage.

The Ecuadorean judge hearing the case recused himself after he appeared in the recordings discussing the case and potential damages. He was returned to the case by another judge, but he was then removed again.

The two mysterious businessmen, who used watches and pens implanted with bugging devices to make the recordings, have refused to explain their motivations for going to the furtive meetings in Quito and a jungle outpost to discuss a bribery plot. And now, with questions mounting, one of them has enlisted a lawyer who has represented Barry Bonds.

In recent days the plot has thickened further. The Ecuadorean political go-between whose taped remarks about apportioning bribes put him in the middle of the scandal, Patricio García, said he was entrapped in a dirty-tricks campaign by Chevron.

In an interview, he claimed that Chevron had masterminded an industrial espionage project, with digitally manipulated videos and gangsters disguised as entrepreneurs on the prowl for contracts, intended to smear him and Ecuador’s legal system.

“This was all planned from the United States, by Chevron itself,” said Mr. García, 55, a businessman and former car mechanic. He chafed at any suggestion, as laid out in recordings made public by Chevron, that he had discussed a bribery scheme that was to include President Rafael Correa’s sister, Pierina Correa, and Judge Juan Núñez, who was then overseeing the case.

It is not clear from the recordings and transcripts provided by Chevron whether any bribes were paid or whether Judge Núñez and Ms. Correa were aware of plans to try to bribe them. Ms. Correa has denied knowing Mr. García, or having anything to do with the plot, and Judge Núñez has also denied any wrongdoing. Meanwhile, governing party and government officials have characterized Mr. García as a man of little influence.

Ecuador’s attorney general still somewhat echoes Mr. García’s interpretation of the events caught on the tapes, saying that Chevron’s contacts with the businessmen who discussed bribes mean the company should be investigated in the United States for possible violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which outlaws bribery of foreign officials to obtain business.

“It seems to me that Chevron’s strategy is to delegitimize the actions of our judges,” said Washington Pesántez, the attorney general. He added that he regretted that a resolution of the lawsuit, which has dragged on for 16 years, had been delayed by a month with the disclosure of the videos. “Justice that is delayed is not justice,” Mr. Pesántez said.

The tapes were the latest turn in a legal marathon over oil contamination left by Texaco years before it was acquired by Chevron. On one tape, Judge Núñez seems to suggest that he plans to rule against Chevron and that damages could exceed $27 billion, making it potentially the biggest environmental suit in history.

Whether Chevron avoided such an outcome by releasing the tapes may not become clear for months, or even years. Chevron gambled that the disclosure of the videos would enable it to cast doubt on the integrity of the trial and the honesty of the Ecuadorean legal system. But the tapes have also raised questions about its ties to the men who made the recordings, potentially opening the company to a new legal fight.

Taping conversations without everyone’s permission is illegal in Ecuador, and trying to bribe foreign officials is illegal under American law. But shades of gray tinge nearly everything to do with the videos. For instance, Mr. García, the political go-between, said the businessmen who tied him to the bribery plot joked about recording their meetings with a wristwatch, potentially giving them a way out if scrutiny of their tactics intensifies.

“For someone who is trying to figure out what you can learn from this, it’s not as though it yields a rational narrative,” said Ralph G. Steinhardt, professor of law and international affairs at George Washington University Law School, who has been following the case. “In trying to appreciate the complexities of this case, you need to have the skills of a poker player rather than the skills of a lawyer.”

Chevron says that it neither coached nor paid the businessmen to make the tapes, and that it did not edit the material, though it did give one of the men, Diego Borja, an undisclosed amount for moving and living expenses so he could safely move his family out of Ecuador.

Company spokesmen say that when Mr. Borja, an Ecuadorean logistics contractor working with an American businessman, brought tapes of three meetings to Chevron, company officials urged him not to go to more meetings because doing so could be dangerous.

“Chevron had no involvement in the videotaping,” said Kent Robertson, a company spokesman. “Chevron referred this matter to the U.S. Department of Justice and Ecuador’s prosecutor general after making every reasonable effort to verify the evidence that was presented.”

Mr. Borja went back for a fourth meeting, taped it, and gave more evidence to the company. But no one has yet explained what motivated him and his partner, Wayne Hansen, an American, to travel around Ecuador meeting officials and collecting evidence of a bribery scheme, especially one in which they stood to gain lucrative contracts.

Neither the men nor their lawyers would talk, although Mr. Borja’s lawyer, Cristina C. Arguedas, who has represented Mr. Bonds and other elite athletes in connection with the investigation into performance-enhancing drugs, released a statement: “Diego is an outstanding and proud Ecuadorean who came forward on his own to expose corruption. He will answer all questions in a fair proceeding.”

The video and transcripts have been open to interpretation. Still a mystery, for instance, is why supposedly well-connected Ecuadoreans with knowledge of the case would discuss bribes in exchange for government cleanup contracts to come out of a settlement in the Chevron case.

Chevron hopes to delay any future payments for many years; since it has no major assets in Ecuador, it would not be easy to get it to pay, even if it lost. Had the Ecuadorean officials checked Mr. Borja’s background, they would have seen that he had been a contractor for Chevron for years.
sumac
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 09:48 am
Solar power outshining Colorado's gas industry
By DINA CAPPIELLO, Associated Press Writer Dina Cappiello, Associated Press Writer 49 mins ago

DURANGO, Colo. " The sun had just crested the distant ridge of the Rocky Mountains, but already it was producing enough power for the electric meter on the side of the Smiley Building to spin backward.

For the Shaw brothers, who converted the downtown arts building and community center into a miniature solar power plant two years ago, each reverse rotation subtracts from their monthly electric bill. It also means the building at that moment is producing more electricity from the sun than it needs.

"Backward is good," said John Shaw, who now runs Shaw Solar and Energy Conservation, a local solar installation company.

Good for whom?

As La Plata County in southwestern Colorado looks to shift to cleaner sources of energy, solar is becoming the power source of choice even though it still produces only a small fraction of the region's electricity. It's being nudged along by tax credits and rebates, a growing concern about the gases heating up the planet, and the region's plentiful sunshine.

The natural gas industry, which produces more gas here than nearly every other county in Colorado, has been relegated to the shadows.

Tougher state environmental regulations and lower natural gas prices have slowed many new drilling permits. As a result, production " and the jobs that come with it " have leveled off.

With the county and city drawing up plans to reduce the emissions blamed for global warming and Congress weighing the first mandatory limits, the industry once again finds itself on the losing side of the debate.

A recent greenhouse-gas inventory of La Plata County found that the thousands of natural gas pumps and processing plants dotting the landscape are the single largest source of heat-trapping pollution locally.

That has the industry bracing for a hit on two fronts if federal legislation passes.

First, it will have to reduce emissions from its production equipment to meet pollution limits, which will drive up costs. Second, as the county's largest consumer of electricity, gas companies probably will see energy bills rise as the local power cooperative is forced to cut gases released from its coal-fired power plants or purchase credits from other companies that reduce emissions.

"Being able to put solar systems on homes is great, you take something off the grid, it is as good as conserving," said Christi Zeller, the executive director of the La Plata Energy Council, a trade group representing about two dozen companies that produce the methane gas trapped within coal buried underground.

"But the reality is we still need natural gas, so embrace our industry like you are embracing wind, solar and the renewables," she said.

It's a refrain echoed on the national level, where the industry, displeased with the climate bill passed by the House this summer, is trying to raise its profile as the Senate works on its version of the legislation.

In March, about two dozen of the largest independent gas producers started America's Natural Gas Alliance. In ads in major publications in 32 states, the group has pressed the case that natural gas is a cleaner-burning alternative to coal and can help bridge the transition from fossil fuels to pollution-free sources such as wind and solar.

"Every industry thinks every other industry is getting all the breaks. All of us are concerned that we are not getting any consideration at all from people claiming they are trying to reduce the carbon footprint," said Bob Zahradnik, the operating director for the Southern Ute tribe's business arm, which includes the tribes' gas and oil production companies. None is in the alliance.

Politicians from energy-diverse states such as Colorado are trying to avoid getting caught in the middle. They're working to make sure that the final bill doesn't favor some types of energy produced back home over others.

At a town hall meeting in Durango in late August, Sen. Mark Udall, who described himself as one of the biggest proponents of renewable energy, assured the crowd that natural gas wouldn't be forgotten.

"Renewables are our future ... but we also need to continue to invest in natural gas," said Udall, D-Colo.

Much more than energy is at stake. Local and state governments across the country also depend on taxes paid by natural gas companies to fund schools, repair roads and pay other bills.

In La Plata County alone, the industry is responsible for hundreds of jobs and pays for more than half of the property taxes. In addition, about 6,000 residents who own the mineral rights beneath their property get a monthly royalty check from the companies harvesting oil and gas.

"Solar cannot do that. Wind cannot do that," said Zeller, whose mother is one of the royalty recipients. In July, she received a check for $458.92, far less than the $1,787.30 she was paid the same month last year, when natural gas prices were much higher.

Solar, by contrast, costs money.

Earlier this year, the city of Durango scaled back the amount of green power it was purchasing from the local electric cooperative because of the price. The additional $65,000 it was paying for power helped the cooperative, which is largely reliant on coal, to invest in solar power and other renewables.

"It is a premium. It is an additional cost," said Greg Caton, the assistant city manager.

Instead, the city decided to use the money to develop its own solar projects at its water treatment plant and public swimming pool. The effort will reduce the amount of power it gets from sources that contribute to global warming and make the city eligible for a $3,000 rebate from the La Plata Electric Association.

Yes, the power company will pay the city to use less of its power. That's because the solar will count toward a state mandate to boost renewable energy production.

"In the typical business model, it doesn't work," said Greg Munro, the cooperative's executive director. "Why would I give rebates to somebody buying someone else's shoes?"

The same upfront costs have prevented homeowners from jumping on the solar bandwagon despite the tax credits, rebates and lower electricity bills.

Most of Shaw's customers can't afford to install enough solar to cover 100 percent of their homes' electricity needs, which is one reason why solar supplies just a fraction of the power the county needs.

The higher fossil-fuel prices that could come with climate legislation would make it more competitive.

"You can't drive an industry on people doing the right thing. The best thing for this country is if gas were $10 a gallon," said Shaw, as he watched two of his three full-time workers install the last solar panels on a barn outside town.

The private residence, nestled in a remote canyon, probably will produce more power from the sun than it will use, causing its meter to spin in reverse like the Smiley Building's. The cost, however, is steep: more than $500,000.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 01:28 pm
@sumac,
Quote:
“Chevron had no involvement in the videotaping,” said Kent Robertson, a company spokesman. “Chevron referred this matter to the U.S. Department of Justice and Ecuador’s prosecutor general after making every reasonable effort to verify the evidence that was presented.”



Reads like a Baldacci novel

http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=583091674
danon5
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 03:03 pm
@Stradee,
Stradee, re. ehBeth's emails - she must have a lot of them - knowing her and her vivacious (looked it up) personality. And, to lose track of them would/must be traumatic. ((It's never funny when it has to be explained))) Grin

Thanks for the info, sumac. Interesting.......

Clicked.

Stradee
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 03:43 pm
@danon5,
Both are pretty funny explainations Smile

Izzie
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 04:00 pm
@Stradee,
Razz

Iza clucked!

((cilckers))

Happy Thanksgiving Canadalalalallalallallala...
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 11 Oct, 2009 10:05 am
Clicked.
sumac
 
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Reply Sun 11 Oct, 2009 10:18 am
@sumac,
October 11, 2009
Debate Follows Bills to Remove Clotheslines Bans
By IAN URBINA

CANTON, Ohio " After taking a class that covered global warming last year, Jill Saylor decided to save energy by drying her laundry on a clothesline at her mobile home.

“I figured trailer parks were the one place left where hanging your laundry was actually still allowed,” she said, standing in front of her tidy yellow mobile home on an impeccably manicured lawn.

But she was wrong. Like the majority of the 60 million people who now live in the country’s roughly 300,000 private communities, Ms. Saylor was forbidden to dry her laundry outside because many people viewed it as an eyesore, not unlike storing junk cars in driveways, and a marker of poverty that lowers property values.

In the last year, however, state lawmakers in Colorado, Hawaii, Maine and Vermont have overridden these local rules with legislation protecting the right to hang laundry outdoors, citing environmental concerns since clothes dryers use at least 6 percent of all household electricity consumption.

Florida and Utah already had such laws, and similar bills are being considered in Maryland, North Carolina, Oregon and Virginia, clothesline advocates say.

The new laws have provoked a debate. Proponents argue they should not be prohibited by their neighbors or local community agreements from saving on energy bills or acting in an environmentally minded way. Opponents say the laws lifting bans erode local property rights and undermine the autonomy of private communities.

“It’s already hard enough to sell a house in this economy,” said Frank Rathbun, a spokesman for the national Community Associations Institute, an advocacy and education organization in Alexandria, Va., for community associations. “And when it comes to clotheslines, it should be up to each community association, not state lawmakers, to set rules, much like it is with rules involving parking, architectural guidelines or pets.”

As much a cultural clash as a political and economic one, the issue is causing tensions as homeowners, landlords and property managers have traded nasty letters and threats of legal action.

“I think sheets dangling in the wind are beautiful if they’re helping the environment,” said Mary Lou Sayer, 88, who was told firmly by fellow residents at her condominium in Concord, N.H., that she could not hang her laundry outdoors after her daughter recently suggested she do so to save energy.

Richard Jacques, 63, president of the condominium’s board, said he moved to the community specifically for its strict regulations. “Those rules are why when I look out my window I now see birds, trees and flowers, not laundry,” he said.

Driven in part by the same nostalgia that has restored the popularity of canning and private vegetable gardens, the right-to-dry movement has spawned an eclectic coalition.

“The issue has brought together younger folks who are more pro-environment and very older folks who remember a time before clotheslines became synonymous with being too poor to afford a dryer,” said a Democratic lawmaker from Virginia, State Senator Linda T. Puller, who introduced a bill last session that would prohibit community associations in the state from restricting the use of “wind energy drying devices” " i.e., clotheslines.

At least eight states already limit the ability of homeowners associations to restrict the installation of solar-energy systems, and legal experts are debating whether clotheslines might qualify.

“It seems like such a mundane thing, hanging laundry, and yet it draws in all these questions about individual rights, private property, class, aesthetics, the environment,” said Steven Lake, a British filmmaker who is releasing a documentary next May called “Drying for Freedom,” about the clothesline debate in the United States.

The film follows the actual case of feuding neighbors in Verona, Miss., where the police say one man shot and killed another last year because he was tired of telling the man to stop hanging his laundry outside.

Jeanne Bridgforth, a real estate agent in Richmond, Va., said that while she had no personal opinion on clotheslines, most of her clients were not thrilled with the idea of seeing their neighbors’ underwear blowing in the breeze.

She recalled how she was unable to sell a beautifully restored Victorian home in the Church Hill neighborhood of Richmond because it looked out onto a neighbor’s laundry hanging from a second-story back porch. In June, the house went into foreclosure.

“Where does it end?” Ms. Bridgforth said of the legislative push to prevent housing associations from forbidding clotheslines.

Dwight Merriam, a lawyer from Hartford and an expert in zoning law, dismissed this concern.

“This is not some slippery slope toward government micromanaging of private agreements,” Mr. Merriam said, adding, however, that for these state laws to succeed they need to exempt existing agreements.

One of the biggest barriers to change, he said, is that most housing compacts that were written more than 30 or so years ago allow rules to be altered only if 80 percent to 100 percent of the association members attend a meeting and vote, which rarely happens.

Ms. Saylor, from the mobile home park, said, “Pressure makes a difference.” After a petition calling on the owner of the property where she lived to reverse the prohibition against line drying laundry, she said, the owner recently acquiesced.

But Alexander Lee, a lawyer in Concord, N.H., who runs a Web site, Project Laundry List to promote hanging clothes to dry, said the actual electricity consumption by dryers was probably three times as much as federal estimates because those estimates did not take into account actual use at laundromats and in multifamily homes.

Change promises to be slow, said Mr. Lee, 35. “There are a lot of kids these days who don’t even know what a clothespin is,” he said. “They think it’s a potato chip clip.”

New York Times Company
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 11 Oct, 2009 10:35 am
@sumac,
What a timely article!

My outdoor clothesline (in use right now), was put up on a Thanksgiving weekend about 8 years ago - was chronicled on one of the first Rainforest threads - it was my Think Globally, Act Locally project that autumn.

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Stradee
 
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Reply Sun 11 Oct, 2009 11:14 am
Very Happy

http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/WTD/WTD004/00195LR-U.jpg

http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=583091674
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sun 11 Oct, 2009 11:25 am
More good news:

Runs of salmon and other fish are restored on Oregon's Rogue River...


http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/ap/161e6a00-c13a-4652-9662-ad8d1b9ecdb6.hmedium.jpg

ROGUE RIVER, Ore. - The wild and scenic Rogue River has become even wilder with the demolition of a dam that had hindered passage of salmon and steelhead to their spawning grounds for 88 years.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33258707/ns/us_news-environment/
 

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