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Memories of 21, 42, 63 ... the 84th meandering

 
 
danon5
 
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Reply Wed 19 Aug, 2009 05:16 pm
@alex240101,
Hi Alex, glad to see you back.......

Nice articles sumac...........

ehBeth, I can see you are on the ball these days. Also, can see the BIG HAIR...........
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 19 Aug, 2009 08:37 pm
@danon5,
You and your 301 friends have supported 2,942,526.0 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 225,983.9 square feet.

American Prairie habitat supported: 69,234.9 square feet.

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,647,307.2 square feet.

~~~

honey, tonight my hair was channeling Joan Kennedy circa 1969
big and flipped!
danon5
 
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Reply Thu 20 Aug, 2009 02:35 pm
@ehBeth,
The 60's were very good years - I enjoyed all of them except for 1969 - I was in Vietnam that year - but, that wasn't all bad either. My company adopted an orphanage and we had the little rascles out to our area several times each year. That was a fun change from day to day business....

Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 20 Aug, 2009 10:08 pm
@danon5,
ah...the 'Postiche' years. Kept memorable photos from the day. Smile

Busy day n' late clicks

http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=583091674
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 08:39 am
August 21, 2009
Editorial
Light in the Forests

This has been a good month for the nation’s forests. The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in California reinstated a landmark 2001 rule " the so-called roadless rule " put in place by President Bill Clinton before he left office that prohibited commercial logging, mining and other development on about 58 million acres of national forests. The Bush administration spent years trying to undermine the rule.

Meanwhile, Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack gave his first major speech on forest policy. Agriculture secretaries, from both parties, have almost always preferred to focus on farming issues, and have treated the Forest Service as a stepchild " even though the 193 million acres of forests and protected grasslands it manages are vital to water quality, wildlife and local economies.

Mr. Vilsack’s speech displayed a firm grasp of the importance of healthy forests, and he promised to work with landowners to keep even private forests in good shape. “It is essential,” he said, in language not much heard in his department, “that we reconnect Americans across the nation with the natural resources and landscapes that sustain us.”

Mr. Vilsack also pledged to find a better balance between commercial and environmental interests and to develop new regulations governing the management of the country’s 155 national forests to replace Bush-era rules invalidated by a lower court last year.

Ostensibly to promote regulatory efficiency, but mainly to support logging, the Bush rules eliminated legally-mandated environmental reviews, weakened protections for wildlife and streams and restricted public input in decision-making. Mr. Vilsack has said he will restore those protections; conservationists should make sure he keeps that promise.

The roadless issue is not entirely resolved, either. Though upheld in California, the rule has twice been thrown out in district court in Wyoming. An appeal is now pending in the 10th Circuit, which Mr. Vilsack has promised to join. He must also make sure that the Tongass National Forest is included in any new roadless plan despite the Alaska Congressional delegation’s insistence that it be opened to logging.

Victory on these two fronts would open the way enforcement of the roadless rule almost everywhere in the country and allow Mr. Vilsack to turn his full attention to other efforts needed to protect the forests.
Stradee
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 11:11 am
@sumac,
Excellent News, sue!

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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 04:21 pm
@Stradee,
checking in

I'll have more time to post again Sunday or Monday ... Thomas and brendalee and I are in Kingston visiting with hamburger right now.

Thomas and I will drive to Toronto tonight - meet up with Mab and her gang.

On Sunday, Setanta, Thomas and I will meet up with Joeblow and Tai Chi.

Quite the A2Kish weekend.

(Chicago's having a get-together this weekend as well)
danon5
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 08:26 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth, sounds like you are at a meeting with a bunch of pilots who all have nicknames.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 10:40 pm
@danon5,
danon, a few years ago we had a get-together at a restaurant here in Toronto. I invited a colleague and her fiance to join us. He had arrived in Canada a few weeks earlier from Ukraine.

This is Joeblow (a beautiful woman), Wenchilina (another beautiful woman) and BoGoWo ( a man). Since he knew my name was Beth, and the other people referred to me as Beth ... he just thought Canajuns had w.e.i.r.d. names.
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sumac
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 06:36 am
Wish I could have a good get together with nice folks. Clicked.
sumac
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 06:43 am
@sumac,
Here's an encouraging development:

August 22, 2009
By Degrees
In Brazil, Paying Farmers to Let the Trees Stand
By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL

QUERENCIA, Brazil " José Marcolini, a farmer here, has a permit from the Brazilian government to raze 12,500 acres of rain forest this year to create highly profitable new soy fields.

But he says he is struggling with his conscience. A Brazilian environmental group is offering him a yearly cash payment to leave his forest standing to help combat climate change.

Mr. Marcolini says he cares about the environment. But he also has a family to feed, and he is dubious that the group’s initial offer in the negotiation " $12 per acre, per year " is enough for him to accept.

“For me to resist the pressure, surrounded by soybeans, I’ll have to be paid " a lot,” said Mr. Marcolini, 53, noting that cleared farmland here in the state of Mato Grosso sells for up to $1,300 an acre.

Mato Grosso means thick forests, and the name was once apt. But today, this Brazilian state is a global epicenter of deforestation. Driven by profits derived from fertile soil, the region’s dense forests have been aggressively cleared over the past decade, and Mato Grasso is now Brazil’s leading producer of soy, corn and cattle, exported across the globe by multinational companies.

Deforestation, a critical contributor to climate change, effectively accounts for 20 percent of the world’s carbon dioxide emissions and 70 percent of the emissions in Brazil. Halting new deforestation, experts say, is as powerful a way to combat warming as closing the world’s coal plants.

But until now, there has been no financial reward for keeping forest standing. Which is why a growing number of scientists, politicians and environmentalists argue that cash payments " like that offered to Mr. Marcolini " are the only way to end tropical forest destruction and provide a game-changing strategy in efforts to limit global warming.

Unlike high-tech solutions like capturing and sequestering carbon dioxide or making “green” fuel from algae, preserving a forest yields a strikingly simple environmental payback: a landowner reduces his property’s emissions to zero.

Yvo de Boer, executive secretary of the United Nations Framework on Climate Change, said that deforestation “absolutely” needed to be addressed by a new international climate agreement being negotiated this year. “But people cut down trees because there is an economic rationale for doing it, and you need to provide them with a financial alternative,” he said.

Both the most recent draft of the agreement and the climate bill passed by the House in late June in the United States include plans for rich countries and companies to pay the poor to preserve their forests.

The payment strategies may include direct payments to landowners to keep forests standing, as well as indirect subsidies, like higher prices for beef and soy that are produced without resorting to clear-cutting. Deforestation creates carbon emissions through fires and machinery that are used to fell trees, and it also destroys the plant life that helps absorb carbon dioxide emissions from cars and factories around the globe.

But getting the cash incentives right is a complex and uncharted business. In much of the developing world, including here, deforestation has been tied to economic progress. Pedro Alves Guimarães, 73, a weathered man sitting at the edge of the region’s River of the Dead, came to Mato Grosso in 1964 in search of free land, pushing into the jungle until he found a site and built a hut as a base for raising cattle. While he regrets the loss of the forest, he has welcomed amenities like the school built a few years ago that his grandchildren attend, or the electricity put in last year that allowed him to buy his first freezer.

Also, environmental groups caution that, designed poorly, programs to pay for forest preservation could merely serve as a cash cow for the very people who are destroying them. For example, one proposed version of the new United Nations plan would allow plantations of trees, like palms grown for palm oil, to count as forest, even though tree plantations do not have nearly the carbon absorption potential of genuine forest and are far less diverse in plant and animal life.

“There is the capacity to get a very perverse outcome,” said Sean Cadman, a spokesman for the Wilderness Society of Australia.

Global as well as local economic forces are driving deforestation " Brazil and Indonesia lead the world in the extent of their rain forests lost each year. The forests are felled to help feed the world’s growing population and meet its growing appetite for meat. Much of Brazil’s soy is bought by American-based companies like Cargill or Archer Daniels Midland and used to feed cows as far away as Europe and China. In Indonesia, rain forests are felled to plant palms for the palm oil, which is a component of biofuels.

Brazil has tried to balance development and conservation.

Last year, with a grant from Norway that could bring the country $1 billion, it created an Amazon Fund to help communities maintain their forest. National laws stipulate that 80 percent of every tract in the upper Amazon " and 50 percent in more developed regions " must remain forested, but it is a vast territory with little law enforcement. Soy exporters officially have a moratorium on using product from newly deforested land.

Here in Mato Grasso, 700 square miles of rain forest was stripped in the last five months of 2007 alone, according to Brazil’s National Institute for Space Research, which tracks vanishing forests.

“With so much money to be made, there are no laws that will keep forest standing,” John Carter, a rancher who settled here 15 years ago, said as he flew his Cessna over the denuded land one day this summer.

Until very recently, developing the Amazon was the priority, and some settlers feel betrayed by the new stigma surrounding deforestation. Much as in the 19th-century American West, the Brazilian government encouraged settlement through homesteaders’ benefits like cheap land and housing subsidies, many of which still exist today.

“It was revolting and sad when the world said that deforestation was bad " we were told to come here and that we had to tear it down,” said Mato Grosso’s secretary of agriculture, Neldo Egon Weirich, 56, who moved here in 1978 and noted that to be eligible for loans to buy tractors and seed, a farmer had to clear 80 percent of his land.

He is proud to have turned Mato Grosso from a malarial zone into an agricultural powerhouse. “Mato Grosso is under a microscope " we know we have to do something,” Mr. Weirich said. “But we can’t just stop production.”

Even today, settlers around the globe are buying or claiming cheap “useless” forest and transforming it into farmland.

Clearing away the trees is often the best way to declare and ensure ownership. Land that Mr. Carter has intentionally left forested for its environmental benefit has been intermittently overtaken by squatters " a common problem here. In parts of Southeast Asia, early experiments in paying landowners for preserving forest have been hampered because it is often unclear who owns, or controls, property.

There are various ideas about how to rein in deforestation.

Mr. Carter has started a landowners’ environmental group, called Aliança da Terra, whose members agree to have their properties surveyed for good environmental practices and their forests tracked by satellite by scientists at the Amazon Institute for Environmental Research (IPAM), ensuring that they are not cultivating newly cleared land. Mr. Carter is currently negotiating with companies like McDonalds to purchase only from farms that have been certified.

The United Nations program, called Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation or REDD, will reward countries that preserve forests with carbon credits that can be sold and turned into cash for forest owners through the global carbon market. The United Nations already gives such credits for cleaning factories and planting trees. Carbon credits are bought by companies or countries that have exceeded their emissions limits, as a way to balance their emissions budget.

Daniel Nepstad, a scientist at the Woods Hole Research Center, has mapped out large areas of the Amazon “pixel by pixel” to determine the land value if it was converted to raise cattle or grow soy, to help determine how much landowners should be paid to conserve forest. Most experts feel that landowners will accept lower prices as they realize the benefits of saving forest, like conserving water and burnishing their image with buyers.

Mr. Weirich, the agriculture secretary, said he was skeptical about that. But he, too, senses that there may for the first time be money in forest preservation and has recently decided to be certified by Aliança da Terra.

“We want to adopt practices that will put us ahead in the market,” he said.

The initial offer Mr. Marcolini has from the environmental group is perhaps not enough to save the forest here. But, he said, if his land was in a more remote part of the Amazon, with less farming potential, “I’d take that offer and run with it.”
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 10:06 am


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danon5
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 02:34 pm
@Stradee,
Me too, Stradee......... Not a heck of a lot to say after sumacs article. I did like it, sumac. The strange thing these days is - animals create more CO2 than all the automobiles in the world put together. That's a lotta gas, gas, gas....... To put it in the Rolling Stones vernacular.
sumac
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2009 07:30 am
For Sunday's reading pleasure:

Ponderosa Pines

August 17, 2009 from APR

If you're driving through the high desert of the Southwest " or sitting at home, watching an old episode of Bonanza " you can't miss the Ponderosa pine. It's the signature tree of the mountain West.

President Obama and his family surely saw plenty of Ponderosas during Sunday's visit to the Grand Canyon. If they had driven about an hour south, they could have seen the largest unbroken swath of the trees in the world. It extends 300 miles " from northern Arizona to southwestern New Mexico.

Black Jacks And Yellowbellies

In Arizona's Coconino National Forest, tourists take hiking tours through the trees. You don't have to look hard for them " they're everywhere.

As prolific as Ponderosas are, there's still a lot that scientists don't know about them. For example, they change color as they get older. And they begin to smell a bit strange, too.

"Early lumbermen who came out here thought they were two different species," says Steve Hirst of the U.S. Forest Service, who leads tours through the area. The trees with black bark were called black jack pine; those with yellow bark were called yellow pine.

But they're the same tree " the yellow ones are just older. When the tree reaches 110 to 120 years old (a mere teenager for a Ponderosa pine), it begins to shed its black bark and reveal an inner bark of yellow. That's why locals call them "Yellowbellies." Scientists still don't know why this happens. But just look at a stump of an old Ponderosa and you'll see a massive swath of yellow.
tall- Steve Hirst sniffing a ponderosa pine during a hike
Tom Bean

U.S. Forest Service guide Steve Hirst sniffs a Ponderosa pine during a July hike in an area near Hot Shot Ranch in Coconino National Forest.

The Smell Of Baking Cookies

There's something else that begins to happen to the tree in the yellowbelly phase. Stick your nose into a crevice of the bark and take a big sniff. It may smell like butterscotch or vanilla. The next person who smells it may insist it's more like cinnamon, or even coconut.

Scientists don't know why a closely sniffed Ponderosa smells like baking cookies. The aroma may arise from a chemical in the sap being warmed by the sun. (The Jeffrey pine, a close relative of the Ponderosa, is also known to turn yellow and give off a similar smell.)

A Bark Of Armor

When you stick your nose deep into a Ponderosa, you're also getting intimate with the tree's armor against fires: bark that is thick, flaky and sometimes compared to pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.

The tree needs that protective layer. The hot, dry Southwest gets hit by a lot of forest fires, most of them touched off by lightning. This part of northern Arizona has one of the highest incidences of lightning strikes in the country.

But, Hirst says, lightning isn't enough to finish off a Ponderosa. When lightning hits one, "it flash-boils the sap, and it just blows the bark off. It doesn't burn the tree," he says.

When the pieces of bark fly off, they carry away the fire's heat. So a major fire can leave "the Ponderosas in charge" of a forest, Hirst says. They remain standing while the competition burns.

Protecting An Iconic Tree

At least that's what's supposed to happen under natural conditions. But for almost a century, conditions in this area weren't natural. Forest fires were contained to preserve the Ponderosas, so they could be cut down for valuable lumber.
wide - With San Francisco Mountain as their background, hikers move alongside a strand of Ponderosa
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With San Francisco Mountain as their background, hikers move alongside a strand of Ponderosa pines.
wide - With San Francisco Mountain as their background, hikers move alongside a strand of Ponderosa
Tom Bean

With San Francisco Mountain as their background, hikers move alongside a strand of Ponderosa pines.

Left unchecked, the forest undergrowth became dense fuel " feeding fires that could easily grow out of control.

And an intense fire can "ladder up" to the crowns of the Ponderosas, Hirst says. "When the crowns burn, and you destroy an entire stand, they may never come back."

That's why the U.S. Forest Service, working with environmental groups and timber companies, is thinning out trees and setting prescribed fires, so the Ponderosas can continue to reign over this stretch of the Southwest.

At the end of a recent day-long hike, Hirst gathers his tour in a spot that he calls the grandest in all the forest, an open clearing amid hundred-foot high pines. The trees are dwarfed by the purple crags of the San Francisco Mountain, which at 12,633 feet includes the highest peak in Arizona.

But there's not much time to enjoy the view. The forest gives a gentle nudge: Thunder. Then there's an even bigger nudge, as the thunder gets a bit louder. And these visitors don't need to be told that their hike is over.
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2009 07:32 am
Modern industrial agriculture:

August 23, 2009
Op-Ed Columnist
Food for the Soul
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

YAMHILL, Ore.

On a summer visit back to the farm here where I grew up, I think I figured out the central problem with modern industrial agriculture. It’s not just that it produces unhealthy food, mishandles waste and overuses antibiotics in ways that harm us all.

More fundamentally, it has no soul.

The family farm traditionally was the most soulful place imaginable, and that was the case with our own farm on the edge of the Willamette Valley. I can’t say we were efficient: for a time we thought about calling ourselves “Wandering Livestock Ranch,” after our Angus cattle escaped in one direction and our Duroc hogs in another.

When coyotes threatened our sheep operation, we spent $300 on a Kuvasz, a breed of guard dog that is said to excel in protecting sheep. Alas, our fancy-pants new sheep dog began her duties by dining on lamb.

It’s always said that if a dog kills one lamb, it will never stop, and so the local rule was that if your dog killed one sheep you had to shoot it. Instead we engaged in a successful cover-up. It worked, for the dog never touched a lamb again and for the rest of her long life fended off coyotes heroically.

That kind of diverse, chaotic family farm is now disappearing, replaced by insipid food assembly lines.

The result is food that also lacks soul " but may contain pathogens. In the last two months, there have been two major recalls of ground beef because of possible contamination with drug-resistant salmonella. When factory farms routinely fill animals with antibiotics, the result is superbugs that resist antibiotics.

Michael Pollan, the food writer, notes that monocultures in the field result in monocultures in our diets. Two-thirds of our calories, he says, now come from just four crops: rice, soy, wheat and corn. Fast-food culture and obesity are linked, he argues, to the transformation from family farms to industrial farming.

In fairness, industrial farming is extraordinarily efficient, and smaller diverse family farms would mean more expensive food. So is this all inevitable? Is my nostalgia like the blacksmith’s grief over Henry Ford’s assembly lines superseding a more primitive technology? Perhaps, but I’m reassured by one of my old high school buddies here in Yamhill, Bob Bansen. He runs a family dairy of 225 Jersey cows so efficiently that it can still compete with giant factory dairies of 20,000 cows.

Bob names all his cows, and can tell them apart in an instant. He can tell you each cow’s quirks and parentage. They are family friends as well as economic assets.

“With these big dairies, a cow means nothing to them,” Bob said. “When I lose a cow, it bothers me. I kick myself.” That might seem like sentimentality, but it’s also good business and preserves his assets.

American agriculture policy and subsidies have favored industrialization and consolidation, but there are signs that the Obama administration Agriculture Department under Secretary Tom Vilsack is becoming more friendly to small producers. I hope that’s right.

One of my childhood memories is of placing a chicken egg in a goose nest when I was about 10 (my young scientist phase). That mother goose was thrilled when her eggs hatched, and maternal love is such that she never seemed to notice that one of her babies was a neckless midget.

As for the chick, she never doubted her goosiness. At night, our chickens would roost high up in the barn, while the geese would sleep on the floor, with their heads tucked under their wings. This chick slept with the goslings, and she tried mightily to stretch her neck under her wing. No doubt she had a permanent crick in her neck.

Then the fateful day came when the mother goose took her brood to the water for the first time. She jumped in, and the goslings leaped in after her. The chick stood on the bank, aghast.

For the next few days, mother and daughter tried to reason it out, each deeply upset by the other’s intransigence. After several days of barnyard trauma, the chick underwent an identity crisis, nature triumphed over nurture, and she redefined herself as a hen.

She moved across the barn to hang out with the chickens. At first she still slept goose-like, and visited her “mother” and fellow goslings each day, but within two months she no longer even acknowledged her stepmother and stepsiblings and behaved just like other chickens.

Recollections like that make me wistful for a healthy rural America composed of diverse family farms, which also offer decent and varied lives for the animals themselves (at least when farm boys aren’t conducting “scientific” experiments). In contrast, a modern industrialized operation is a different world: more than 100,000 hens in cages, their beaks removed, without a rooster, without geese or other animals, spewing out pollution and ending up as so-called food " a calorie factory, without any soul.


sumac
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2009 07:33 am
@sumac,
Nature's morning newspaper:

August 23, 2009
Op-Ed Columnist
Connecting Nature’s Dots
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Jao Flats, Botswana

Who knew that deep in Botswana’s Okavango Delta, where there are no paved roads, phones or TVs, you could find the morning paper waiting for you every day outside your tent, with the latest news, weather and sports? Who knew?

True, this is no ordinary journal. The newspaper here on the Jao Flats of the northwest Okavango flood plain is published on the roads " literally. The wetlands are bisected by hippo trails and narrow roads made from pure white Kalahari Desert sand. And every morning, when you set out to investigate the wilderness, it is not uncommon for a guide to lean out of his jeep, study the animal and insect tracks, and pronounce that he’s “reading the morning news.”

We were lucky to be accompanied by Map Ives " the 54-year-old director of sustainability for Wilderness Safaris, which supports ecotourism in Botswana " and it was fascinating to watch him read Mother Nature’s hieroglyphics.

This day’s “news,” Ives explained, studying a stretch of road, was that some lions had run very quickly through here, which he could tell by the abnormal depth of, and distance between, their paw prints. They were in stride. The “weather” was windy coming out of the east, he added, pointing to which side of the paw prints had been lightly dusted away. Flood waters remained high this morning, because the nearby hyena tracks were followed by little indentations " splashes of water that had come off their paws. Today’s “sports”? Well, over here " the hyenas were dragging a “kill,” probably a small antelope or steinbok, which is very obvious from the smooth foot-wide path in the sand that ran some 50 yards into the bushes. Every mile you can read a different paper.

It is mentally exhausting hanging with Ives, who was raised on the edge of the Okavango Delta. He points out the connections, and all the free services nature provides, every two seconds: Plants clean the air; the papyrus and reeds filter the water. Palm trees are growing on a mound originally built by termites. Yes, thank God for termites. All of the raised islands of green in the delta were started by them. The termites keep their mounds warm. This attracts animals whose dung brings seeds and fertilizer that sprout trees, making bigger islands. Ives will be talking to you about zebras and suddenly a bird will zip by " “greater blue-eyed starling,” he’ll blurt out in midsentence, and then go back to zebras.

“If you spend enough time in nature and allow yourself to slow down sufficiently to let your senses work, then through exposure and practice, you will start to sense the meanings in the sand, the grasses, the bushes, the trees, the movement of the breezes, the thickness of the air, the sounds of the creatures and the habits of the animals with which you are sharing that space,” said Ives. Humans were actually wired to do this a long time ago.

Unfortunately, he added, “the speed at which humans have improved technology since the Industrial Revolution has attracted so many people to towns and cities and provided them with ‘processed’ natural resources” that our innate ability to make all these connections “may be disappearing as fast as biodiversity.”

Which leads to the point of this column. We’re trying to deal with a whole array of integrated problems " climate change, energy, biodiversity loss, poverty alleviation and the need to grow enough food to feed the planet " separately. The poverty fighters resent the climate-change folks; climate folks hold summits without reference to biodiversity; the food advocates resist the biodiversity protectors.

They all need to go on safari together.

“We need to stop thinking about these issues in isolation " each with its own champion, constituency and agenda " and deal with them in an integrated way, the way they actually occur on the ground,” argued Glenn Prickett, senior vice president with Conservation International. “We tend to think about climate change as just an energy issue, but it’s also about land use: one-third of greenhouse gas emissions come from tropical deforestation and agriculture. So we need to preserve forests and other ecosystems to solve climate change, not only to save species.”

But we also need to double food production to feed a growing population. “So we’ll need to do that without clearing more forests and draining more wetlands, which means farmers will need new technologies and practices to grow more food on the same land they use today " with less water,” he added. “Healthy forests, wetlands and grasslands not only preserve biodiversity and store carbon, they also help buffer the impacts of climate change. So our success in tackling climate change, poverty, food security and biodiversity loss will depend on finding integrated solutions from the land.”

In short " and as any reader of the Okavango daily papers will tell you " we need to make sure that our policy solutions are as integrated as nature itself. Today, they are not.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2009 11:30 am
@danon5,
The articles are intersting, sue, and your're right Dan - the nation's difficulty moving from the status quo to an actual revision of managing our forests and lands is mind boggling on a good day.

In the Sierra's there are three lumber mills closing. I'm definitely a tree hugger, but also understand the need for sensible forest/land management. When there is a correct balance, we all benefit. Enviornmenalists as well as mill owners agree that the removal of hazardous materials from forests floors enhances growth and helps the local economy. The key is reorgainzation , preserving forests and wildlife habitat.

Speaking of...last years spotted baby male deer visited yesterday. There he sat, blending with the landscape, and watched me climb the back porch railing, him calmly waiting for me to take the pics. Mamma stroles past and dines on discarded birdseed from the feeder - but first stops at the kitchen window to say 'howdy'. Accidental meetings are both startling and hilarous Shocked - deer jumping in the opposite direction - me 'oopsing' and wondering why i don't carry the camera every second of the day {or pay attention}. Endearing tolerance. {grin}


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Stradee
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2009 11:33 am
What's the deal with Care2? Clicks arn't registering. Question
danon5
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2009 01:16 pm
@Stradee,
Stradee, yes, nature is still in control and humans have yet to get it's grasp.

Many years ago - when Patti and I moved back to the country here in NE TX - she, being a 'city' girl didn't know a lot about country living. One day soon after we got settled here we went for a walk in the forest. At some point away from everything man made, we stopped. I said to Patti, "Just wait here for a few minutes and while we wait listen to the woods, smell the woods." It didn't take long, the woods started to move with animals and - as usual, I didn't know if we were actually in the midst of all the goings on or just starting to be accepted by the animals with careful watchings from them.

I tried to explain the smell of a snake to her, but, its difficult to imagine - sort of a cross between a frog and a fish, with a little musk thrown in.

You would have to experience it to know the difference.

All clicked
Stradee
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2009 05:07 pm
@danon5,
From the time the kids were little, we'd spent many hours near ponds, the ocean, forests, and aquainting ourselves with the the sounds and sights of nature - and i believe the animals are wary of humans at first - but their curiosity, intelligence and instincts, thankfully allow us to visit and observe the natural world - unless ya meet up with a grizzly and then all bets are off. Shocked

Learned much of how wildlife interacts with humans from my childhood - was fortunate to have spent summers at a popular California lake, where wildlife was abundant, including rattle snakes. We had a lakeshore cabin, with a beach, so there was little danger of rattlers there, but in the hills and rocky areas? We were very cautious.

The other critters though were a delight, and of course my fav of all forest creatures - deer. The natural world amazes me daily.







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